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GOOD AFTERNOON. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING FOR PUBLIC WORKS TODAY I AM COUNCILWOMAN[Roll Call]
DONNA PURVIS. I AM THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE AND I'M JOINED TODAY BY MY CULTURE COUNCILMAN ROBYN ENGLES AND WE HAVE IN CHAMBERS ARE THIS AFTERNOON. WE HAVE COUNCILMAN ACKERSON.COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD COUNCILMAN, UH, VINCENT STEWART. I DON'T KNOW. I CAN'T SEE THE SCREEN.
THERE'S NO ONE WHAT WE DON'T HAVE. WE DON'T SORRY. WE DO NOT HAVE ANY LEGISLATION SO THERE'S NO NEED FOR QUORUM. BUT AT THIS TIME, WANT TO LET THE CLOAKS READ THE LEGAL STATEMENT? THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CARE A 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FIVE A RED AND FULL THANK YOU. QUEEN EMOTIONS, YOU KNOW? OKAY TODAY WE HAVE WITH US. WE HAVE JEFF BROWN, UM, PUBLIC
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WORKS. HE'S HERE TO TALK ABOUT. PAVING UM SO IT LOOKS LIKE JEFF IS PREPARED FOR THIS MEETING ALL LET HIM GO AHEAD AND START BEFORE WE ASK ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, JEFF HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR QUESTIONS. JEFF BROWN, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF METRO PUBLIC WORKS AND ASSETS. I'M HERE TO WITH NICHELLE. SHE WAS GOING TO HELP ME WITH THIS PRESENTATION. WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IS TALK ABOUT SOME OF OUR PAVING PROGRAM AND THEN HOW IT CORRELATES TO OUR VISION ZERO INITIATIVE AND WHAT THAT COMPLETE STREETS COALITION DOES TO HELP US WITH THOSE INITIATIVES. SO WE KNOW A BROAD OVERVIEW SO ARE PAVING IS REALLY BASED ON THE CONDITION OF THE ROADS. WE HAVE A LARGE INVENTORY ABOUT 4500 LES MILES OF ROADWAY AND THE WAY WE PRIORITIZE PAVING[00:20:04]
IS MEASURING THE DISTRESSES IN THOSE ROADS. WE CALL IT THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX THAT WAS DEVELOPED BY THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS. AND THE WAY WE DO THAT IS WE HIRE CONSULTANTS.THEY HAVE A SMART VAN THAT GOES OUT AND CAN MEASURE ALL THE CRACKS, THE POTHOLES, THE RUTS, THE RAVELING ALL THE DISTRESSES IN THAT ROAD, AND THEY ASSIGN IT A SCORE FROM 0 TO 100 WITH 100 BEING THE BEST. WE THEN TAKE THOSE RATINGS AND WE LOOK AT WE FIND WHERE WE'VE GOT THE LOWEST CONCENTRATIONS OF THE PORSCHE ROADS AND WE BUILD OUR PAVING PLAN ON TOP OF THAT, AND WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS RIGHT NOW WE'RE STILL IN THE WORST FIRST SCENARIO WERE AT NINE YEARS OF OUR 10 YEAR PLAN, AND WE'RE REALLY CLOSE TO MEETING THE GOALS WE SET AND I'M GLAD COUNCILMAN AKERSON IS HERE BECAUSE HE'S THE FIRST ONE THAT PROBABLY CALLED ME OUT ON IT. I PUT MY HEAD ON THE CHOPPING BLOCK AND WE ARE ALMOST THERE, AND I'M CONFIDENT THIS LAST YEAR IS GONNA GET US WHERE WE NEED TO BE. BUT IMPORTANTLY, IT'S MEASURING THOSE DISTRESS. AND SO WE DID OUR FIRST SURVEY IN 2013 . WE MEASURED ALL THE ROADWAYS. WE ASSIGNED IT THAT SCORE AGAIN . WE DID THAT IN ABOUT 2016. HOWEVER WE ONLY DID THE HIGHER CLASS ROADS, THE LOCAL OR THE ARTERIALS AND THE COLLECTOR LEVEL ROADS, WHICH ONLY MAKE UP ABOUT 25% OF OUR INVENTORY, BUT THEY HAVE THE FASTEST RATES OF DEGRADATION. WE JUST FINISHED THE LAST SURVEY IN 2020. SO ALL THE PAVING PLANS. WE'VE PREPARED TO THIS POINT OR BASED ON THAT SURVEY FROM 2020. AND TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE GOAL. IT WAS REALLY TO KEEP ROADS FROM GOING BEYOND THE POINT WHERE WE COULDN'T SALVAGE IT, AND WE WOULD HAVE TO RECONSTRUCT. SO GETTING THE ROAD AT THE RIGHT TIME WITH THE RIGHT TREATMENT SAVES US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. A DOLLAR NOW WILL SAVE US $5 DOWN THE ROAD AND WITH A $30 MILLION BUDGET THIS FISCAL YEAR WE'VE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS, AND I'M REALLY ANXIOUS TO SEE WHAT OUR NEXT SURVEY RESULTS WILL BE, BECAUSE THAT'S THE PROOF WHETHER WE WORK SUCCESSFUL OR NOT. AND NOW I THINK I'LL TURN OVER TO NATE AND WHAT HE'S GOING TO SHOW YOU IS A FEW OF THE PROJECTS NOW. I DON'T THINK ANY OF THESE OVERLAPPED ARE PAVING PROJECTS. BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES THERE AND I HAVE THE LINK TO THE MAP AND WE CAN SHOW WHEREVER WE HAVE THE EITHER VISION. ZERO IDENTIFIED PRIORITIES OR SOMETHING TO COMPLETE STREETS COME UP WITH. THE FIRST THING WE DO IS LOOK AT OUR PAVING PLAN, BECAUSE IF WE CAN CATCH IT AS PART OF THE BATHING PLAN, WE CAN SAVE A LOT OF MONEY. WE REALLY LEVERAGE THAT PAVING DOLLARS WHERE WE'RE ALREADY DOING WORK. AND CAN ENHANCE IT WITH THAT INPUT FROM THE COMPLETE STREETS COALITION. THANKS FOR HAVING ME. UM SO THE FIRST SLIDE I JUST WANTED TO TALK ABOUT. YOU KNOW WHY WE WOULD CALL THEM TRAFFIC. SO 100 AND 28 PEOPLE DIED PUBLIC ROADWAYS IN LOUISVILLE IN 2022. THAT'S EXCLUDING UH, LIKE INTERSTATE HIGHWAYS, SO IF YOU INCLUDE THOSE, IT'S MUCH HIGHER. TO THE RIGHT. YOU CAN SEE A HEAT MAP OF WHERE FATALITIES AND SERIOUS SUSPECTED INJURIES HAPPENED IN 2022. TO GET AN IDEA OF WHERE THESE INCIDENTS ARE CLUSTERED. UM SO ARE COMPLETE STREETS, COALITION OR COMPLETE STREETS. PROJECT SUPPORT VISION ZERO. IT'S NOT THE SINGULAR GOAL OF OUR COMPLETE STREETS PROJECTS THAT CAN GET INTO SOME OF THOSE, UM SOME OF THE REASONS HOW IT DIFFER A LITTLE BIT WHEN I TALK ABOUT THE PROJECTS. UM AND WE DO USE KIND OF NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES ALONG WITH THINGS THAT WORK, UM, WORKED LOCALLY AS WELL. UM SO JUST A QUICK RUNDOWN . SO WHAT IS THIS COMPLETE STREETS COALITION? THE CSC WAS MANDATED IN 2022 THROUGH. EDITS TO THE COMPLETE STREETS ORDINANCE. UM $500,000 ALLOCATED IN FISCAL YEAR 23, AND IT'S A 15 MEMBER COALITION PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER LOUISVILLE, UM, THAT HAVE PRIORITIZED THESE FUNDS IS NOT THE MAIN FUNCTION OF THE CSC. BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT TODAY. UM SO HOW DID WE DO THIS? WE KIND OF USE AN ADDITIVE PROCESS OF PARTICIPATORY BUDGETING, SO PEOPLE WOULD, UM FILL OUT SURVEYS AND THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THOSE SURVEYS AND WHAT THEY WANTED AREAS OF TOWN THAT THEY THOUGHT WERE IMPORTANT, BASED ON DIFFERENT DATASETS, SUCH AS AVERAGE DAILY TRAFFIC OR SUSPECTED SERIOUS INJURIES AND CHAOS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. UM AND ALL MEETINGS ARE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC. AND THEN THE MEETING MINUTES ARE POSTED AFTER EVERY MEETING, AND SO IT'S COMPLETELY TRANSPARENT. ANYONE CAN CAN AND IS ENCOURAGED TO COME. UM, SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAD GOT SOME GOOD PRESS RECENTLY. THE WDR B ARTICLE HAS, UM AH QUOTES THIS IS ABOUT THE CENTRAL AVENUE PROJECT, WHICH I'LL TALK ABOUT IN THE SECOND AND THEN THE WOOK Y ARTICLE THEY TALKED ABOUT THE 35TH STREET PROJECT THAT IS AT 35TH STREET IN BANK AND AS A BUS STOP IMPROVEMENT. AS WELL AS
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SOME TRAFFIC CALMING ELEMENTS AS WELL. SO THIS IS OUR PROJECTS. OVERVIEW WHAT WE'VE DONE WITH THE $500,000 THUS FAR. UM, AND WHICH COUNCIL DISTRICTS THEY'RE IN, SO WE HAVE, YOU KNOW? 35TH STREET, WHICH IS DISTRICT FIVE CENTRAL AVENUE, WHICH IS IN THREE AND SIX. BIG BAND SPEED HARM, WHICH IS IN 22 AND 24. UM AND THEN WE HAVE. PROJECTS AND 4 15 AND FIVE AS WELL. SO THIS IS THE FIRST ONE I WANTED TO TALK THROUGH. I THINK THIS PROJECT IS GREAT. SO BETWEEN NORTHWESTERN AND BANK STREET WE JUST RIGHT SIZE THAT WE STRIKE THE PARKING TO MAKE IT FEEL A LITTLE BIT TIGHTER AS PEOPLE WERE GOING THROUGH JUST TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN A LITTLE BIT AND FIGURE DOWN SO THIS IS ONE OF PARK'S BUSIEST STOPS. UM THAT'S WHAT THEY TOLD ME BECAUSE THE KROGER'S RIGHT HERE. UM AND IF YOU SEE WHERE IT SAYS HETERO CURB INSTALLED, THERE'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WE ACTUALLY FIXED THE SIDEWALK AND GOT RID OF THE VERGE IN BETWEEN THIS SIDEWALK AND THE CURB, WHICH IS THAT AREA OF GRASS. BECAUSE, UM . THIS TARGET STOP WAS USED HEAVILY AND THE BUSSES WERE HOPPING THE CURB. AND IT CAUSED DITCH TO FORM IN THAT AREA. SO WHEN I WAS OUT WITH ENGINEERS SCOPING THIS PROJECT, WE ACTUALLY SAW SOMEONE GET OFF THE BAR THE BUS AND FALL DOWN INTO THAT LITTLE DITCH. UM SO WE FIXED THAT AND THEN THE BUMP OUTS ON EITHER SIDE OF THE BUS STOP ALLOW FOR THE BUSSES TO PULL IN. BUT THAT AND THE STRIPING WILL HOPEFULLY SLOW CARS DOWN BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING OFF THE BUS, AND MOST OF THEM ARE PROBABLY GOING TO THE KROGER, BUT THEY COULD BE WALKING AROUND AND JUST KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. SO THE CENTRAL AVENUE BUMP OUTS, UM. IF YOU WANT TO GO LIKE ONE. YES SO THE ONES IN GREEN? THESE ARE GOING TO BE PLANTERS. UH, CHURCHILL DOWNS TO SIGNED AN M O A TO PUT LANDSCAPING AND ALL OF THESE, SO AS YOU APPROACH CHURCHILL DOWNS, UM THE AH! YOU KNOW, YOU'LL SEE IT LANDSCAPING AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IT'S AN IMPORTANT ROADWAY. OBVIOUSLY NOT JUST FOR DECISIONS OF THE TAILOR BURIED NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT ALSO JUST FOR THE TOURISTS THAT COME TO CHURCHILL DOWNS, SO BEAUTIFYING IT SLOWING DOWN TRAFFIC. WHEN WE'RE DOING OUTREACH, SOMEONE SAID THAT THEY HAD BEEN COMPLAINING ABOUT PEOPLE SPEAKING ON CENTRAL AVENUE FOR A DECADE, AND WE HOPE THAT THIS WILL FIX THAT PROBLEM. SO THE COMPLETE STREETS COALITION HAD AN IDEA AS WE WERE PRIORITIZING THESE FUNDS TO FUND SPEED HUMPS THAT HAD NOT BEEN FUNDED BUT HAD GONE THROUGH OUR SPEED HUMP POLICY, WHICH I'M SURE ALL YOU GUYS ARE AWARE OF. UM IT'S KIND OF A LENGTHY PROCESS WE HAVE TO GET, YOU KNOW, 70% OF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET TO SIGN, UM, THAT THEY ARE WANTING THE SPEED HUMPS THERE. UM SO WE FUNDED THESE TWO. THIS IS BIG BEN, DRIVE OUT EAST. AND BRADLEY AVENUE SPEED HUMP, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT FIVE. I BELIEVE SO WE FOUND THAT THESE TO YOU? UM AND THEN. ONE THING AS WE GOT TO THE. OUR REMAINING FUNDS. THE COMPLETE STREETS COALITION DECIDED TO PRIORITIZE SCHOOL ZONES AND TRAFFIC CALMING AROUND THEM. SO THIS PROJECT HASN'T BEEN BUILT YET, BUT IT'S ON THE DOCKET. UM THIS IS A MEDIUM THAT AGAIN. ALL IT DOES IS NARROW ROADWAYS, UM, AND MAKE IT FEEL TIGHTER AS PEOPLE ARE GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTION.SO WE DID THIS ONE WHICH IS NOT COMPLETE, AND THEN KING ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS BASICALLY COMPLETE, BUT I LEARNED YESTERDAY THAT THE DELINEATE ER POSTS ARE NOT INSTALLED, WHICH WILL ADD VISIBILITY AND AGAIN. HOPEFULLY SLOW PEOPLE DOWN AS THEY'RE APPROACHING KING ELEMENTARY. AND THE GOAL OF THESE PROJECTS IS SAFETY FOR OUR CHILDREN, UM, ESPECIALLY WITH THE WAY THE BUZZING SITUATION IN LOUISVILLE. THERE'S GONNA BE MORE KIDS WALKING TO SCHOOL.
PROBABLY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO SLOWING CARS DOWN. IS THERE IN THAT AREA? AND THAT'S UM THAT'S ALL I HAD. THANK YOU, UM . WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE ARE WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN BAKER AND COUNCILMAN KUMAR RASHAD JOINED US SPIRITUALLY. UM, I'M GONNA LET COUNCILMAN RASHAD GO AHEAD AND ASK HIS QUESTION THAT HE HAS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH YEAH. I JUST WANT TO KNOW SPEAKING ABOUT THE CENTRAL CENTRAL AVENUE PROJECT AND THE LITTLE UM I FORGOT WHAT YOU CALL THOSE THINGS COMING OUT OF THE
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SIDE OF THE ROAD. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO SLOW TRAFFIC DOWN. BOUNCE. YEAH. BUMP OUTS, OKAY, BUMP OUTS OR INTO THOSE BUMP OUTS. I'M HEARING. I'M HEARING TOO MANY DIFFERENT THINGS. I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY OR ANY OF THOSE BUMP OUTS DESIGNED TO HAVE, UH, PLANTS IN THE YES, SIR . YES. SO CHURCHILL DOWNS HAS ENTERED INTO A M O A WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND THEY'LL BE HANDLING THE LANDSCAPING FOR ALL THOSE. SO I BELIEVE 10 OF THE PLANTERS WILL THE BUMP OUTS ARE BUILT TO ACCOMMODATE PLANTS ON THE INSIDE. RIGHT AND THEN, OF COURSE, THEY WON'T BE OBSTRUCTING ANYBODY'S VIEW. I KNOW THAT MIGHT BE A WORRY POINT FOR SOME VOTES. YEAH, I BELIEVE THEM. YOU TCD ALLOWS FOR IT TO BE LIKE FOURTH. 24 INCHES. FOUR. AND UH, YEAH, AND STEP AT THE PUMP OUT SOME, YOU KNOW, I'M HOW SUCCESSFUL ARE THEY LIKE A WHERE ELSE ARE THEY USED THAT THEY'RE PRETTY SUCCESSFUL. I HEARD THAT THERE MIGHT BE SOME OVER THERE ON THE HIGHLAND SOMEWHERE. WHERE ELSE ARE THESE BUMP OUTS OF USED WHERE WE CAN SEE THAT THERE'S SUCCESSFUL. YEAH BARDSTOWN ROAD IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF ONES THAT SEEM TO BE WORKING. REALLY? WELL, UM UNIVERSITY OF KENTUCKY IS DOING A STUDY ON COMPLETE STREETS AND THEY ASKED FOR US FOR A LIST IN THE PAST WEEK OF, UM AH! COMPLETE STREETS PROJECTS THAT HAVE BEEN COMPLETED THREE YEARS OR LONGER AGO. AND THEY DID THAT BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TEST THE EFFICACY OR SOMETHING UNTIL IT'S THERE FOR A WHILE, BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE, UM YEAH , ACCLIMATING TO IT AND GETTING USED TO IT. SO YOU KNOW IF YOU DO IT RIGHT AFTER IT'S NOT, UH YOU'RE NOT GONNA GET WELL, YOU COULD GET GOOD RESULTS BECAUSE GET BAD RESULTS. SO YOU HAVE TO LET IT BE THERE FOR A MINUTE AND THEN WE CAN TEST IT, BUT WE'RE FOLLOWING NATIONAL BEST PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THIS OR IMPLEMENTED NOT JUST IN LOUISVILLE OVER THE COUNTRY. ALL RIGHT, AND WHAT? WHAT DECISIONS HAVE TO BE MADE BEFORE WE DECIDE THAT WE'RE GOING TO USE A BUMP OUT, UH, INSTEAD OF LIKE SPEED HUMPS. YEAH SO SPEED HUMPS ARE ONLY ALLOWED ON LOCAL ROADS. SO A LOT OF TIMES, PEOPLE WILL CONTACT COUNCIL OFFICES AND THEY'LL BE SAYING, YOU KNOW, SPEEDING IS A REAL PROBLEM ON MY STREET. WHAT CAN YOU DO ABOUT IT? AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THE SYSTEM OF PLACE THEY WERE YOU GUYS CAN THEN SEND THEM OUR WAY AND WE CAN TALK TO THEM ABOUT IF WE CAN DO BUMP OUTS OR OTHER TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. RIGHT QUESTION. LAST QUESTION IS, UH, ARE THERE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT DAMAGE TO FOLKS VEHICLES WITH THESE, UH, BUMP OUTS? UM I THINK THERE'S SOME CONCERN. UM, I'M NOT SAYING, I DON'T FEEL FOR PEOPLE THAT HIT THIS BUMP OUTS AND SOMEHOW DAMAGED THEIR CAR. THAT'S REALLY UNFORTUNATE, BUT THESE THINGS ARE A. I THINK THEY'RE 6.5 FT, SO THEY ARE A FOOT CLOSER TO THE CURB THAN A PARKED CAR WOULD BE ONE OF THE MAIN COMPLAINTS WE GOT ON CENTRAL AVENUE IS EVERYONE I TALKED TO SAID I KNOW SOME SO AND SO WHO'S GOT THEIR REAR VIEW MIRROR KNOCKED OFF. SO IT'S KIND OF LIKE, ARE YOU GOING TO LET THE PEOPLE THAT ARE PARKED THERE? OR THE PEOPLE DRIVING.DEAD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN RASHAD TOOK MY QUESTION, BUT I HAVE MORE TO ADD TO IT. UM INSTEAD OF FILLING THESE BUMP OUTS. AND WITH CONCRETE. UH ACCORDING TO YOUR RESPONSE TO KATZMAN WAS SHOT. WE CAN PUT PLANTS SO IS THIS A PROJECT THAT YOU ARE GOING TO COLLABORATE WITH BRIGHT SIDE ON OR I THINK IT WOULD BE REALLY PRETTY, BUT I WANTED TO KNOW HOW COST EFFECTIVE WITH THAT BE INSTEAD OF FILLING IT IN WITH CONCRETE AND FILLING IT IN WITH PLANTS. WOULD WOULD THAT BE A SAVINGS? I WAS SURPRISED BY THIS . IT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE MORE EXPENSIVE FOR US TO DO THE PLANTERS OPPOSED TO JUST THE CONCRETE BUMP OUTS AND I HAD TO DO WITH LIKE HOW DEEP YOU HAVE TO GO FOR THE CURB TO GO. I'M NOT AN ENGINEER, SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW WHY. BUT I TRUST TO TELL ME THAT THEY COST $9000 PER BUMP OUT. AND UM, I FORGET HOW MUCH THE PLANTED ONCE WHERE, BUT I COULD GET THAT NUMBER FOR YOU. CUTE CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE? SO THE CONCRETE FILLED BUMP OUTS CAST ABOUT $9000 AND FOR THE BUMP OUTS WITH PLANTERS IN THEM. THEY WERE MORE THAN THAT, BUT I CAN'T REMEMBER HOW MUCH MORE SO WE'RE AN EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE. WHERE IS THE FUNDING COMING FROM FOR THESE BOMB BELTS? WHERE'S THE MONEY COMING FROM? UM THE LAST YEAR'S FISCAL BUDGET FISCAL YEAR, 23. WE WERE GIVEN $500,000. YEAH, AND IT
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TRAFFIC CALMING ON. LOCAL ROADS AND MINOR ARTERIALS TO BE PRIORITIZED BY THE COMPLETE STREETS COALITION WAS THE BUDGET ITEM. SO HAVING YOU DETERMINE, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT KROGER AT 30 FIELD STREET. THAT'S A PRETTY BUSY SPOT. HOW DO YOU DETERMINE WHERE WE'RE BUMP OUTS ARE GOING AS FAR AS A RESIDENTIAL AREAS BECAUSE ABSOLUTELY SOME IN DISTRICT FIVE AND SOME RESIDENTIAL AREAS, SO HOW DID YOU DETERMINE THAT THESE AREAS MET THE CRITERIA FOR BUMP OUTS.SO ARE YOU GUYS GOING? HOW WE DECIDED THAT THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE BUILT OR THAT THE THAT WE DECIDED THIS TREATMENT IS THE ONE THAT WE WANT TO USE, LIKE OPPOSED TO OTHER TRAFFIC, CALMING OR JUST STRIPING. SAY THAT AGAIN, PLEASE. WELL, SO WE DECIDED HOW TO SPEND THAT MONEY BY TALKING TO THE COMPLETE STREETS COALITION BY UM WE NARROWED IT DOWN WITH SURVEYS AND PROVIDING THEM WITH DATA. AND THEN WE NARROWED IT DOWN TO ONLY JUSTICE 40 AREAS AND THEN NARROWED IT DOWN FURTHER FROM THERE THROUGH THEIR SUGGESTIONS, AND, UM. VISION ZERO DATA AND THINGS LIKE THAT. AND THEN AS FAR AS UH, WHY WE CHOSE BUMP OUT SPECIFICALLY FOR A LOT OF THESE PROJECTS. IT WAS A MATTER OF UM, GETTING IT DONE QUICKLY AND WHERE. YOU KNOW WHERE ENGINEERS TOLD US THAT THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TREATMENT. OKAY I HAVE SOME OTHER COLLEAGUES THAT I HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE I CONTINUE ON COUNCILMAN CHAPEL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE AND THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK COLLABORATED ON QUITE A FEW PROJECTS, INCLUDING THE BRADLEY AND THEN ALSO THE SPEED HANDS THAT WERE THE BUMP OUTS THAT WERE ON CENTRAL AND YOU KNOW WHEN I WAS DOOR KNOCKING? I'VE SAID THIS A LOT THAT ONE OF THE MAIN THINGS THAT PEOPLE WOULD REQUEST WAS. CAN I GET SPEED HUMPS ON MY STREET AND, UM I WOULD ALWAYS SAY IF YOU GO THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, NO, BECAUSE IF WE PUT SPEED HANDS ON EVERY STREET THAT THEY WERE REQUESTED, PEOPLE WOULD THEN BE SENDING US THE BILL FOR THE ALIGNMENT ON THEIR CAR AND COMPLAINING ABOUT ALL OF THESE SPEED HUMPS, UM, WHICH YOU CAN JUST SPEED BETWEEN EACH HUMP, SO I REALLY THINK THAT THESE BUMP OUTS ARE GREAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO KIND OF I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I DID JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, UM THERE'S A BENEFIT TO THEM. THAT INCLUDES NARROWING SIGHTLINES, CREATING A BUFFER FOR CARS SO THAT IF YOU WERE PARKED WITHIN THAT, HOPEFULLY IT'S PROTECTING YOUR CAR. SO UNLESS THAT PERSON IS SWERVING, THEY'RE HITTING THE BUMP OUT AND YOUR MIRROR SO, UM, THAT WOULD BE UNFORTUNATE TO THEM. BUT IT'S ALSO A WAY TO MAKE IT EASIER FOR PEDESTRIANS TO CROSS THE STREET BECAUSE IT GIVES THEM OFTEN TIMES WHETHER IT'S FILLED IN WITH A TREE OR NOT, UM, LESS OF A DRAWN THAT THEY HAVE TO MAKE ACROSS THE ROAD. SO BUMP OUTS ARE REALLY GREAT, BUT I ALSO WANT TO SAY THAT THERE ARE DISADVANTAGES TO BUMP OUTS. WE WERE RECENTLY HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT BUMP OUTS ON FOURTH STREET. UM. EXCUSE ME OVER BY THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE, AND IF WE PUT IN BUMP OUTS, THEN IT WOULD PROHIBIT A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT USE THAT LANE FOR BIKING. AND SO THOSE ARE OTHER CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE REALLY HAVE TO TAKE IN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT. DO WE WANT TO IMPLEMENT A BUMP OUT OR NOT? BUT I THINK THAT IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ALTERNATIVE METHODS THAT WE CAN TO NARROW OUR STREETS AND TREES ARE ALSO A REALLY WONDERFUL WAY TO DO THAT. UM AND NOT ONLY ARE THEY NARROWING SIGHTLINES THERE UM, SOAKING IN SOME OF THE WATER SO THAT IT'S UM YOU KNOW, OUR STREETS AREN'T FLOODING AND ALSO PROVIDING THE GREEN BENEFITS AND CLEANER OXYGEN FOR OUR CITY. BUT WITH THAT SAID, I DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS. I WAS VERY IN SUPPORT OF COMPLETE STREETS AND I WAS VERY DISHEARTENED TO SEE THAT, UM, WHILE THE CONCEPT OF COMPLETE STREETS IS FUNDED THROUGH PUBLIC WORKS THE COALITION DID NOT RECEIVE $500,000 AGAIN TO IMPLEMENT SO I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THERE WAS ANY FUNDING AFTER THIS LAST BUDGET CYCLE AND FISCAL YEAR 24 WHERE PUBLIC WORKS INTERNALLY SET ASIDE MORE MONEY TO PUT INTO THAT ACCOUNT, AND THEN ALSO, WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR THAT 100 REMAINING 100 ABOUT $110,000? YES SO WITH $110,000. WE ORIGINALLY HAD PRIORITIZED THAT FOR TWO SCHOOLS THAT, UM, ONE WE'RE HAVING. WE'RE WAS ON MUHAMMAD ALI. UM AND WE WEREN'T SURE IF IT WAS GONNA BE HELPFUL FOR THEM, AND THEN WE COULDN'T GET A HOLD OF THE PRINCIPAL. AND IT HAD BEEN SIX MONTHS AND I WENT TO THE SCHOOL TO TWICE AND THEN I TOLD THE CSC THAT UM AND
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BAD PROJECT MAY STILL GET BUILT. AND THEN THERE WAS WEED THE ELEMENTARY, WHICH IS CLOSING DOWN AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM YEAH, YEAH, THE ONE IT'S. IT'S IN THAT NEW NORTON COMPLEX NOW, SO WE'RE NOT DOING THAT ONE EITHER. SO THAT'S WHERE THE $110,000 CAME FROM, AND WE'RE PRIORITIZING IT. UM AT THE NEXT MEETING, WHICH IS NEXT THURSDAY ON THE 28TH. AND THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT IDEAS BEING BOUNCED AROUND FOR THAT. UM AND THEN, AS FAR AS, UM YOU KNOW, HOW ARE WE FUNDING CS THE, YOU KNOW, COMPLETE STORIES. EFFORTS NOW, UM. I FOCUSED ON GETTING THE CHECKLIST DONE, WHICH IS ONE OF A KIND OF THE MAIN FUNCTION OF THE COMPLETE STREETS COALITION WHERE THEY WILL BE REVIEWING EVERY PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT TO ENSURE THAT COMPLIES WITH THE COMPLETE STREETS ORDINANCE AND THE COMPLETE STREETS DESIGN GUIDE, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'VE SHIFTED MY FOCUS, AND I KNOW THAT AS PART OF THE PAVING PROGRAM, WHERE WE'RE DOING SOME, LIKE STRIPING AND STUFF LIKE THAT. LAST QUESTION IS THE 15 MEMBER BOARD FULL? YES YOU GUYS ADDED, UM TWO MEMBERS THOUGHT THEY HAD THE TIME FOR IT, AND IT TURNS OUT THEY DID NOT. AND I GUESS TWO MEETINGS AGO, YOU GUYS APPOINTED TWO MORE MEMBERS. COUNCILMAN BAKER. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. JUST JUST A QUICK QUESTION. HAVE A SEPARATE QUESTION. BUT CAN YOU GO OVER? THE POINT THAT YOU MADE ABOUT THAT THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS AND THE REASON I SAID, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED WHEATLEY. THAT'S ACTUALLY ECO TRAIL THAT'S IN NORTON'S. IT'S IN HUDSON MIDDLE SCHOOL, JUST GROUND BROKEN. THE REASON I KNOW THAT IS BECAUSE MY SISTER IS THE PRINCIPAL. AND SO THAT'S WHERE I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW , BECAUSE I TALKED TO SOMEONE ON THE PHONE AND THEY FROM WEEKLY WEEKLY, WHICH IS NOW JANE BLAINE HUDSON. THEY SAID THAT THEY WERE JUST WAS A GROUND BROKEN. THEY SAID THEY WERE CLOSING DOWN. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW. YES SO MAYBE, YOU KNOW, JUST IF YOU NEED TO CONTACT I MIGHT KNOW THE FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THAT. THANK YOU. YEAH I APPRECIATE IT.YEAH PERSON BUT AGAIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU ALL DO, UM UH, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT THE INTERACTION OF. UH WE ARE OFFICE WAS TOLD OF OUR YOU KNOW THE RELATIONSHIP THAT'S BEING BUILT BETWEEN COUNCIL MEMBERS AND, UH, IN PUBLIC WORKS AND IT WAS TOLD US AND I JUST WANT TO SEE IF IT WAS TRUE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS, CONCERNS ARE NO LONGER THE PRIORITY. ANYMORE BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE FUNDING AND THE REASON I'M ASKING YOU. THAT IS BECAUSE DURING BUDGET TIME WE ASKED IF MOST OF US ASKED YOU ALL HAVE THE NECESSARY FUNDING TO DO YOUR JOB, AND SO CAN YOU RESPOND TO THAT? YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. NICOLE GEORGE, DEPUTY MAYOR OF PUBLIC HEALTH, PUBLIC SERVICES, AND VERY CONCERNED TO HEAR ANY ALLEGATION THAT ANY COUNCIL MEMBER WOULD BE TOLD THAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE NOT A PRIORITY OF ANY METRO AGENCY. AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE A ONE OFF. UM CONVERSATION AROUND WHO GAVE THAT DIRECTIVE AND WHERE THAT CAME FROM. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY NOT THE POSITION OF THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, AND WE'LL BE TALKING MORE WITH YOU. THANK YOU, DEPUTY MAYOR. COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. HEY, JEFF. UH, HE MAY KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING ON. OUT IN THE UNINCORPORATED AREAS. I THINK THAT I DON'T KNOW HOW WE ADDRESS THIS, BUT YOU KNOW AS WELL AS I DO, BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO LISTEN TO MY MOUTH COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS ALL THE TIME ABOUT ROADWAYS THAT ARE NOT METRO ROADWAYS, BUT THE HOMEOWNERS' ASSOCIATIONS ARE DEFUNCT, AND NOW THERE'S NO ONE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PROPERTY. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CREATIVE WAY THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CAN COME UP WITH, LIKE, CAN WE CONDEMN THE STREET? SINCE THERE'S NO ONE TAKING CARE OF IT. CAN WE CONDEMN THE STREET AND LET IT BECOME METRO SO WE CAN FIX IT? I MEAN, IT'S NOT THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED INTO THESE SUBDIVISIONS. YOU KNOW THE FIRST QUESTION YOU ASK WHEN YOU'RE BUYING A HOUSE IS NOT WHO OWNS THE STREET BECAUSE I MEAN FROM BEING ON THE COUNCIL. I KNOW NOW I LOOKED AT A HOUSE THAT WE WERE LOOKING AT TO BUY AND I JUST DECIDED TO LOOK UP WHO OWNS THE STREET, AND IT WAS THE PEOPLE TO PEOPLE THAT LIVE ON THE STREET. AND I THOUGHT I'M NOT BUYING THE HOUSE BECAUSE THAT MEANS I'M BUYING A PORTION OF THE STREET AND I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN AFFORD TO KEEP THE ASPHALT UP, YOU KNOW? SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A CREATIVE WAY OF. CAN WE DO THAT? MAYBE. I MEAN, ASK THE COUNTY ATTORNEY IF THERE'S A CREATIVE WAY THAT WE CAN TAKE OVER THE STREETS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THE FAULT OF THE PEOPLE. ACTUALLY WHO MOVED INTO THESE AREAS, YOU KNOW THAT THE THERE'S NO LONGER HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, BUT THEY ON THE STREETS. NO, AND THIS HAS BEEN A
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PROBLEM FOR DECADES, AND IT WOULD REQUIRE CHANGING THE ORDINANCE. RIGHT NOW THERE IS AN ORDINANCE THAT ADDRESSES THAT PRIVATE STREET DEDICATION. IT REALLY PUTS THE BURDEN ON THOSE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS AND PUT THEM IN THAT CATCH 22 WHERE THEY HAVE THIS REALLY BAD ROAD THAT THEY CAN'T AFFORD TO MAINTAIN. BUT BEFORE METRO WILL ACCEPT IT , THEY HAVE TO BRING IT UP TO THAT CURRENT STANDARD, AND IT'S JUST IT'S NOT PRACTICAL. IT'S NOT FEASIBLE. AND IT IS A PROBLEM THROUGHOUT. IS IT? IS IT A THING THAT WE CAN CHANGE THE ORDINANCE TO SAY OR COULD OR WOULD COMBINATION BE A BETTER THING TO GO THROUGH. SO YOU DON'T START TAKING OVER EVERY STREET. YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? BECAUSE THERE ARE SOME HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION THAT OWN THEIR STREETS THAT ARE PERFECTLY FINANCIAL FINANCIALLY STABLE ENOUGH TO FIX THEIR STREET. WAIT THEIR STREETS AND THERE ARE A FEW DIFFERENT SCENARIOS WHERE THE H O A MAY OWN THE GROUND THAT THAT STREET IS ON AND THE ABUTTING PROPERTIES DON'T WEAR IT. IN SOME SITUATIONS. THOSE ARE BUDDING PROSECUTORS OWNED UP TO THE CENTER OF THE STREET SITUATIONS. YEAH, YOU HAVE TO PREPARE DEEDS BECAUSE WE'RE ACTUALLY EITHER THEY'RE GIVING US OR WE'RE PURCHASING THAT PROPERTY FROM THEM, OR THEY DID THAT WHOLE ROAD. BUT I THINK THE ORDINANCE IS REALLY THE STICKING POINT NOW BECAUSE IT REALLY PUTS THE BURDEN ON THOSE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS TO DO THE SURVEY TO MAKE THE REPAIRS AND THEN PREPARE THE LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT TURNS IT OVER TO METRO. SO I THINK THAT PROCESS COULD BE STREAMLINED, BUT IT WOULD NEED TO CHANGE IN THE ORDINANCE.WELL, THAT MAKES SOMETHING WE CAN WORK ON THAT. YES MA'AM. AND I SUPPORT YOU. 100% WE DO WHATEVER WE COULD TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS I'D LIKE TO ASK, AND IT INVOLVES PAVING. AND OFTENTIMES WE'RE GET. CONSTITUENTS TO CALL AND THEY WILL WANT THE ROADS PAVED JUST BECAUSE IT HADN'T BEEN PAVED IN 10 YEARS, AND THE ROAD IS SMOOTH AND YOU KNOW, I TRY TO EXPLAIN TO THEM THE PROCESS AND HOW YOU COME OUT AND ASSESS IT BECAME.
YOU MAKE A PUBLIC STATEMENT ABOUT THAT FOR THOSE THAT MAY BE LOOKING AH, LISTENING AS TO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE REQUEST A ROLE TO BE PAVED. NO, WHEN WE FIRST GET A REQUEST FOR A ROAD TO BE PAID WILSON INSPECTOR OUT AND IF THERE'S ANYTHING IMMEDIATE POTHOLES, MAYBE THERE'S SOME DEBRIS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING QUICK WE CAN DO WITH OUR INTERNAL FORCES. WE WILL DO THAT. OTHERWISE WE WAIT FOR THAT PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. WE HAVE TO COMPARE APPLES TO APPLES . SO IF WE WAIT RIGHT, ONE ROAD, WE HAVE TO RATE THEM ALL. AND THAT'S WHY WE REALLY ONLY DO THAT COMPREHENSIVE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX RATING EVERY FEW YEARS BECAUSE WE COVER THE WHOLE NETWORK, GET EVERYTHING, SO IT'S DIFFICULT TO GO OFF AND DO JUST A SURVEY OF ONE ROAD TO ASSIGN IT TO SCORE BECAUSE YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE DEGRADATION. ALL THE ALL THE ROADS SURROUNDING IT WERE NO LONGER COMPARING THAT APPLE TO APPLE. SO WE REALLY RELY ON THAT. PC I THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A FEW STREETS SEVEN ASKED YOU TO GO OUT AND MAKING ASSESSMENT OWNING YOU MAY COME BACK AND SAY WELL, THE ROOM WAS RATED 75, WHICH I'M SAYING 75 OUT OF 100. CORRECT YES, MA'AM, WHICH IS PRETTY STILL PRETTY GOOD. YES, MA'AM. SO WHAT? SCORE. UM. WOULD WOULD DING THAT IS, UM IT IS NECESSARY TO LOOK AT REPAVING, THEN THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. SO FROM 100 TO ABOUT 75, THEY'RE VERY LITTLE WORK WE NEED TO DO. MAYBE THERE'S PRACTICE HEALING POTHOLE PATCHING FROM 75 DOWN TO 55. THAT'S A GREAT CANDIDATE FOR PAVING. UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVEN'T BEEN IN A POSITION WHERE WE HAD ENOUGH ROADS IN THAT RANGE WHERE WE COULD GO OUT AND PAVE. ONCE WE HIT THIS 10 YEAR, MARK, WE WILL HAVE ELIMINATED ALL THOSE REALLY BAD ROADS, EVERYTHING BELOW 40. WE CAN REALLY START CONCENTRATING ON THAT 75 TO 55 RANGE BECAUSE, IDEALLY, WE CAN DO A TREATMENT TO THAT ROAD AND A LOT LESS COST AND EXTEND THE LIFE AND IT'S GOING TO SAVE US MONEY IN THE LONG RUN. WE JUST HAD A LOT OF CATCHING UP TO DO.
THERE HAD BEEN A LOT OF UNDERFUNDING ON PAVING, AND NOW WE'RE FINDING AT THE POINT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO START DOING PROACTIVE MAINTENANCE. WE'RE GOING TO PRESERVE THE CONDITION OF THAT ROAD THAT'S OUT THERE. OKAY THAT THAT MAKES SENSE. UM WAS THE TUNNEL MOUNTAIN GIVEN 23 24 30 MILLION. THIS FISCAL YEAR IS $30 MILLION. OKAY, SO, UM HOW ARE YOU DETERMINED? THE AMOUNT TO SPEND, UH YOU SPENDING THE SAME AMOUNT IN EACH DISTRICT OR BY THE PAVING NEEDS. CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THAT? AND THERE'S REALLY TWO THINGS WE USE. FIRST. WE LOOK AT THE QUANTITY OF METRO MAINTAINED ROADS IN THAT DISTRICT, SO EVERYONE GETS A PROPORTIONAL SHARE WITHIN THAT, JUST AND THIS WILL ONLY PLASTIC, THE LOCAL ROADS, ARTERIALS AND COLLECTORS. THEY SPEND MULTIPLE DISTRICTS ARE USUALLY THE DIVIDING LINE ON DISTRICTS CARRY A LOT MORE TRAFFIC THAT GOES THROUGH A SLIGHTLY SEVEN SEPARATE PROCESS, BUT THAT'S ONLY A QUARTER OF OUR TOTAL INVENTORY. SO WITH THE LOCAL ROADS WE TRIED TO SPLIT IT UP PROPORTIONATELY IN BY THE QUANTITY OF ROADS IN THAT DISTRICT AND THEN FOR THOSE DISTRICTS THAT ARE BELOW THE GOALS WE SET, THEY'LL GET A BUMP , SO THEY GET SLIGHTLY MORE FUNDING THAN THOSE ROADS THAT
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ARE EXCEEDING OUR GOALS. SO IN THAT WAY, I THINK WE'VE GOT A PRETTY GOOD PLAYING IN PLACE WHERE WE CAN HIT THE ROADS THAT NEED IT MOST BY THAT COUNCIL DISTRICT, BUT IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT THE QUANTITY OF ROADS IN THAT DISTRICT. DISTRICT SEVEN, FOR EXAMPLE, IS PREDOMINANTLY SMALL CITIES. THERE'S VERY LITTLE METRO ROADS IN DISTRICT SEVEN AS WELL AS DISTRICT THREE BECAUSE SHAMEFULLY TAKES UP A BIG PART OF THAT. SO ALTHOUGH THE COUNCIL DISTRICTS ARE EQUAL IN POPULATION, THEY'RE NOT WITH METRO ASSETS. SO YOU PROJECTING THIS SPEND THE TOE TOTAL 30 MILLION GIVEN IN THE BUDGET FOR PAVING FOR 23 24 YOU PROJECTING THE SPENT THAT TOTAL AMOUNT AND GIVEN YES, THAT'S OUR PLAN. WE PREPARE THE PLANE THAT SHOWED $30 MILLION WORTH OF PAVING. AND I HOPE WE CAN SPEND IT ALL. I HOPE YOU CAN TO IN DISTRICT FIVE. WELL, THIS IS YOUR MONEY, COUNCILWOMAN. YOU CAN TELL ME TO DO WHATEVER YOU WANT WITH IT. I'VE BEEN TELLING YOU THAT FOR YEARS YOU'RE NOT LISTENING TO ME 13 OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS ON YOURS. OKAY, UM SAME. OKAY SO NOW I DO HAVE, UM, STILL IN MY DISTRICT. I'M SURE MY COLLEAGUES DISTRICTS WE STILL HAVE SOME, UM CHALLENGING PUBLIC ROLES THAT I FEEL THAT NEED ATTENTION THAT MAY NEED TO BE ADDED TO THAT, YOU KNOW? UH BUMP UP LIST OR WHAT HAVE YOU SO I KNOW THAT I WANT TO TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT LOAN LIST THAT I SENT YOU. UH BECAUSE SOME OF THOSE RULES ARE JUST JUST REALLY, REALLY BAD. SO AND THEN I ASKED US LOOKED AT, UH, EVERYBODY'S ROADS AND I SAW WHAT SIMILAR THEM MORE RADIANT PRETTY GOOD THAT MAYBE THEY COULD HOLD OFF. UH INSTEAD OF DOING THOSE, YOU KNOW, SOON. I THINK THEY CAN BE DONE A LITTLE LATER. IT'S JUST JUST MY OPINION , NOT TRYING TO COME IN YOU ALL'S DISTRICTS AND STEP ON YOUR TOES. I DON'T KNOW WHAT COMMITMENTS OF PROMISE YOU HAVE MADE TO CERTAIN PEOPLE ABOUT GETTING CERTAIN ROLES PAY, BUT I'M JUST THINKING THAT IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO TAKE CARE OF THE ROLES THAT REALLY ARE IN NEED OF BEING TAKEN CARE OF. INSTEAD OF DOING THE ONES THAT ARE KIND OF READ IT LIKE 69 78 BEFORE YOU HAVE SOME REDDIT 40 ONE NOW AND I MEAN WELL, LISTEN, DISTRICT FIVE DISTRICT 19. WHAT HAPPENED? I JUST THINK WHAT DISTRICT 19 THEY I THINK THEY'RE FINE FOR RIGHT NOW. BUT I'M JUST SAYING, UM, HOPING THAT MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN TAKE PLACE. AH! BECAUSE SOME OF THESE ROLES REALLY, REALLY NEED TO BE PAVED. AND NOW DO WE HAVE ANY MONEY LEFT FOR ALLEYS? YES WELL , AND WE DO HAVE THAT ALLEY BUDGET THAT WAS APPROPRIATE THIS YEAR AND WE HAVE PROJECTS IDENTIFIED WERE NOT COMPLETE WITH THOSE. SO THERE MAY BE A LOT OF THOSE ARE COMING IN UNDER BUDGET WE MAY HAVE OVERESTIMATED SO THERE MAY BE ADDITIONAL FUNDS , BUT WE WON'T KNOW UNTIL WE GET CLOSER TO THE END OF THE FISCAL UNION. SO YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS TIME HOW MUCH FUNDING IS STILL AVAILABLE FOR ALLEYS BECAUSE WE'RE ONLY A FEW MONTHS INTO THE FISCAL YEAR, SO WE REALLY I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT MEAN PROJECTS COMPLETED YET, OKAY? DO YOU HAVE A LOT OF REQUESTS FOR ALI'S? YES MA'AM. OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT, UM RIGHT NOW. THE SONG I HAVE. COUNCILMAN ENGEL. THANK YOU, MADAM. SHERIFF JEFF. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. UM I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW COMFORTING IT IS TO RESPOND TO OUR CONSTITUENTS WITH THE FACT THAT THERE'S A THERE'S A RATING SYSTEM. THERE'S A THERE'S THERE REALLY IS A RHYME OR REASON FOR, UM HOW WE GO ABOUT DOING BUSINESS IN THE IN THE WORLD OF PAVING. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT REAL QUICKLY. YOU MENTIONED THE BUMPS ARE $9000 EACH IS THAT IS THAT CORRECT? YES, SIR. WHERE ARE WE ON THE SPEED HUMP. I MEAN, I'M A VERY BIG PROMOTE PROPONENT FOR SPEED HUMPS. AND HAVE BEEN DOING THEM FOR 20 YEARS. WE'RE ARE WE CURRENTLY ON THE COST OF THOSE? IT'S BETWEEN 2500 AND $3000. PER SPEED. HUMP IS OUR UNIT RATE HAS THAT STAYED FAIRLY CONSISTENT OVER TIME, OR WE'RE GONNA HAVE A SPIKE IN THESE THESE SPEED HUMPS , ARE WE NOT, AND WE'RE GOING TO GET ANY RELIEF THERE AND UNLIKELY BECAUSE IT'S REALLY DRIVEN BY MATERIAL COSTS SO THE COST DOES FLUCTUATE, BUT IT'S PEGGED TO THE COST OF GAS BECAUSE IT'S A PETROLEUM PRODUCT. SO THE LABOR STATES CONSISTENT, BUT IT'S THE MATERIAL THAT ACTUALLY I DON'T SEE IT GO IN ANY LESS THAN 2000 OR ANY MORE THAN 3000. THAT'S A FAIR RANGE AND JUST JUST FOR THE RECORD AS FAR AS TRAFFIC TRAFFIC[00:55:03]
COMING, I'M WONDERING, UH, HAVING FROM JUST SEEN UP NORTH, UM ROUNDABOUTS. UH IS THERE ANY IS THERE ANY PULSE FOR THAT? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSIONS WITHIN YOUR TEAM ON? YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE YOU ALL ON YOUR THOUGHT PATTERN WITH REGARD TO ROUNDABOUTS. OCCASIONALLY WE DO GET THE OPPORTUNITIES TO APPROVE A BRAND ABOUT SAYING CONJUNCTION WITH THE NEW DEVELOPMENT.ROUNDABOUTS ARE BIG. THEY'RE CONSIDERABLY LARGER THAN A TYPICAL URBAN INTERSECTION, SO IT IS DIFFICULT TO RETROFIT AN OLD FOUR LEGGED INTERSECTION WITH THE ROUNDABOUT. BECAUSE IT TAKES UP SO MUCH SPACE. NOW THE TRAVEL LANES ARE IN SOMEBODY'S FRONT YARD SANDBOX OR EVEN FURTHER OUT. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO GO IN AFTER THE FACT AND BUILD AROUND ABOUT, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE'RE CONSIDERING IT A FEW DIFFERENT INTERSECTIONS MORE FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION IS THAT PROBABLY IF WE CAN START FROM SCRATCH, THAT'S ALWAYS A GREAT PLACE TO WORK, BUT AROUND ABOUT AN EXCELLENT WAY TO REDUCE CRASHES . IMPROVE THAT CONNECTIVITY.
IT'S SAFER FOR PEDESTRIANS, CYCLISTS. IT'S ALL AROUND AN IMPROVEMENT. JUST HAVE SEEN HIM AT AT AT A HEART. YOU KNOW, HOSPITAL. I'VE SEEN HIM. UM AS A CONNECTOR, TWO INTERSTATES. AND SO THEY'RE THEY'RE THEY'RE CREATIVE. THEY'RE FRUSTRATING. I THINK ON SOME FOLKS, BUT I JUST THOUGHT I'D SEE WHERE YOU ARE WITH REGARD TO YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT IT. YEAH AND YOU DON'T NEED A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OPERATED. IT TAKES CARE OF A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH.
WITH MAINTENANCE. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. THERE IS NO TRAFFIC SIGNALS. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
I'M SORRY, JEFF, IF YOU WOULD TAKE PICKING BACK ON, UM SPEED HUMPS. IF YOU WOULD JUST TAKE SOME TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE PROCESS. UH WITH SPEED HUMPS, YOU KNOW, EVERYDAY CITIZENS THAT MAY SAY WE NEED TO SPEED HUMPS. WHAT WHAT DO THEY NEED TO DO TO REQUEST SPEED HOMES. THEY CAN ALWAYS CALL METRO CALL AT 311 AND ASKED FOR THE REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATION AND THEY COULD SEND US AN EMAIL. THEY CAN CONTACT US. HOWEVER, THEY CAN FIND US. BUT JUST LET US KNOW THE ROAD YOU'RE INTERESTED IN AND WHAT WE WOULD DO SCHEDULE A STUDY WE WOULD MEASURE WHAT THE CONDITIONS ARE ON THAT ROAD. HOW FAST ARE PEOPLE TRAVELING AND HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ON IT? AND THEN WE WOULD DETERMINE IF SPEED HUNTER WERE WARRANTED. SPEED HUNTS ARE WARRANTED. WE MOVE INTO THAT NEXT STEP. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE ABUTTING PROPERTY OWNERS THAT ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED HAVE A SAY IN WHETHER THOSE SPEED HUNTS GO IN OR NOT. WE'RE NOT IN THE UH, BUSINESS OF GOING OUT AND DON'T STUFF DOWN PEOPLE'S THROAT. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT THAT COMMUNITY SUPPORT BEFORE WE DO SOMETHING LIKE SPEED HUMPS BECAUSE THERE ARE TRADEOFFS.
THEY DO GOOD, CALMING TRAFFIC, BUT THEY ALSO INCREASED ROAD NOISE. THEY'LL SLOW EMERGENCY SERVICES, SO THERE'S SOME TRADE OFFS BUT MOST OF THE TIME IN THE RIGHT SITUATION, SPEED HUMPS ARE A BENEFIT MORE THAN THEY ARE COST. MANY CONTRACTORS DO WE HAVE INSTALLING SPEED HUMPS? RIGHT NOW. WE'RE SENDING IT TO ONE CONTRACTOR. BUT WE DO HAVE UNIT PRICES THROUGH. I THINK THAT RIGHT NOW THREE DIFFERENT CONTRACTS THAT OFFER THAT SPEED HUMP UNIT COST, BUT THE COST VARIES SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE GOING WITH THE MOST ECONOMICAL. THERE ARE OTHER CONTRACTORS THAT CAN PROVIDE THAT, BUT WE HAVE TO PAY. UH HIGHER COST. SO IF ONE OF YOUR DEAN CONTRACTORS COMES OUT AND PUT DOWN A SPEED HUMP THEIR NIECE CORRECTING OR IS NOT INSTALLED PROPERLY. WILL THEY COME BACK OUT AND FIX IT? YES MA'AM. ME IF IT'S NOT THE CONTRACTOR. IF IT'S OUTSIDE WARRANTY, THEN IT WOULD BE OUR ROAD OPERATIONS. BUT IF YOU HAVE AN ISSUE WITH SPEED HUNT, LET US KNOW AND WE'LL FIGURE OUT HOW TO ADDRESS IT. OKAY, UM. OKAY AND RECEIVED A TEXT. UM. I RECEIVED A TEXT FROM A CONSTITUENT. WANTING TO KNOW. WHERE IS THE TRANSPARENCY FOR THE $500,000? THAT WAS USED FOR STREETS AND SIDEWALKS. AND I'M WONDERING IF THEY'RE REFERRING TO THE TRAFFIC CALMING BUDGET IN THE LAST AND A LOT OF THAT'S ONLINE. SO IF THEY WENT TO LOUISVILLE, KY DOT GOV AND TYPING COMPLETE STREETS IN THE SEARCH BAR, HE'LL PULL YOU UP AND IT SHOWS ALL THE PROJECTS WHAT WE ESTIMATED THE COST TO BE AND WHAT THE ACTUAL COST WAS ON THE ONES THAT ARE COMPLETED. UM NOW THAT THE TIDE WALK REPAIR BUDGET, I THINK WAS AT $3 MILLION THIS YEAR, AND WE HAVE A LIST OF ALL THOSE PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO SHARE IN THE PAVING. YEAH 30 MILLION AND WE'VE PUBLISHED THAT LIST AS WELL. OKAY AND COUNCILMAN GERSON HAS A QUESTION. YEP. NO COMPLAINTS THIS YEAR, JEFF. THAT'S YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD HOUSE KEEPING SIGNED THERE. YOU KNOW THAT WHEN I'M NOT YELLING AT YOU KNOW YOUR WELL. WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SPEED HUMPS. SO I WANT TO GO OUT AND GET SOME COUPLE OTHER THINGS ON THE RECORD. SO PEOPLE HEAR THIS STUFF, UM I HAVE DECLINED TO DO SPEED HUMPS FOR 15 YEARS AND I WILL CONTINUE THAT, UH, BUT YOU TALKED ABOUT THE PRICE? BEING 2,503,000. YOU TALKED ABOUT THE ASSESSMENT AND THEN CONSIDERING THE PROS AND CONS GETTING THE STREETS INVOLVEMENT. IS THERE A SPEED LIMIT? WE'RE ESSENTIALLY SAID THERE'S NO ONE HELL WE'RE PUTTING SPEED HUMP ON THIS ROAD.
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YEAH, I'VE GOT SOME ROADS THAT YOU KNOW. UH IT'S 40 45 MILES AN HOUR. PEOPLE COMPLAIN THAT WE GOT TO SLOW PEOPLE DOWN. THERE'S ACCIDENTS. WE WANT SPEED BUMPS IN THE ROAD. YOU'RE NOT THERE'S NO ONE HELL, WE'RE GONNA PUT A SPEED BUMP ON THE ROAD. THAT'S 35 $40 BILLION AN HOUR ARE WE KNOW AND THEN THAT GETS INTO THAT COST BENEFIT SO THAT SPEED HUMPS ARE AS MUCH A HAZARD AS THEY ARE TRAFFIC CALMING BENEFIT, AND IT'S AT THOSE HIGHER SPEEDS. WE WOULD NOT CONSIDER SPEED HOMETOWN A ROAD POSTED HIGHER THAN 25 MPH GOT YOU? THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAD. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR CURRY EXTENSIONS. OTHER THINGS TO MAKE THAT ROAD FEEL LESS COMFORTABLE WITH 45 55 64 WHATEVER THEIR DRIVING, WE WANT TO MAKE THOSE DRIVERS FEEL A LOT LESS COMFORTABLE EXCEEDING THE SPEED LIMIT. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR SIT . THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.