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CHAMBERS. WE HAVE THAT COUNCIL COUNCILMAN RENAL WEBER. COUNCILMAN FAOUR COUNCILWOMAN PARKER COUNSELING PIACENTINI AND COUNCILMAN HUDSON AND ALSO WE HAVE COUNCILMAN BAKER IS HERE.OKAY. CUSTOMER, ARTHUR. OH, I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T SEE YOU OVER THERE TOMORROW. I APOLOGIZE.
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CORRECT I DON'T WANT AS AN ORDERING AN ORNATE APPROPRIATING $7000 FROM DISTRICT SIX THEY WOULD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS. AH TO METRO PARTIAL PRODUCTION COST OF JAZZ IN CENTRAL PARK. WELCH IN SECOND EMOTION IN THE SECOND AND COUNSELING BAKER YOU HERE TO SPEAK TO THIS ONE? YES UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAD JAZZ AND CENTRAL PARK. AND SO THIS IS THE FINAL PAYMENT FOR THE COST OF PRODUCTION TO GET THROUGH. AND SO I ASKED FOR EVERYONE'S YES, BUT FOR THIS SURE. QUESTIONS.SEEING NO. ONE IN THE QUEUE. THERE'S AN ORDINANCE COMPARABLE COVERAGE, PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCIL MEMBER MCRANEY. YES COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE HILL. YES. REMEMBER FOWLER.
COUNCILMAN, P. ARGENTINE E. HMM. NOT AN ITEM. ADD YOU. MR CHAIR. YOU HAVE 10? YES, VOTES. THANK YOU. OUT OF PASSES. PAST THIS AND WE'LL GO TO CONSENT COUNTER . I DON'T CHOOSE AN ORDINANCE APPROPRIATE IN $2000 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER $2000 FROM DISTRICT 21 TO THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT AND BUDGET TO SOUTH LOCAL COMMUNITY MINISTRIES INC FOR THE COUNCIL ASSOCIATED WITH THE TASTE OF SOUTH OVAL FUNDRAISER EVENT MOTION.
PROBABLY MOTION THE SECOND IS TO FOR US, MISS KATZ, YOU'RE UP. GOOD AFTERNOON. REBECCA KATZ, LEGISLATIVE AIDE FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT, 21, THIS IS A INDIA FOR THE FIRST HALF LEVEL COMMUNITY MINISTRIES. ANNUAL TASTE OF SOUTH LOUISVILLE EVENT . UH IT IS A FUNDRAISER THAT SHOWCASES ALL THE LOCAL AND INTERNATIONAL CUISINE FROM SOUTH LOUISVILLE AND A FEW OTHER PLACES. UM THE PURPOSE IS TO RAISE FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE MINISTRY'S WORK. THEY PROVIDE VITAL EMERGENCY SERVICES FOR OUR CONSTITUENTS AND DISTRICT 21 AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER DISTRICTS . THE EVENT TOOK PLACE ON SATURDAY, AUGUST 26TH THIS PAST SATURDAY, SIX PM AT CHURCHILL DOWNS, MILLIONAIRE ROW AND, UM WE ARE AT $2000 IN THE REQUEST IS FOR 9500. I BELIEVE THERE ARE A FEW OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAVE INDICATED THEY WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE. LET'S GO POINTED OUT THAT THE CUSTOMER HAS JOINED US. DO YOU HAVE? DO YOU HAVE PARTICULAR DISTRICT? 12 IS COMING ON BOARD. YOU HAVE OTHERS AS WELL. DID YOU KNOW? I KNOW FOR CERTAIN TO START 12. OKAY ALRIGHT. SO DISTRICT 12. I WANT TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO ADD $1000 FROM DISTRICT 12. ANY OTHER. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T GET ANYONE ELSE BEFORE YOU ARE. NOPE.
HELLO? YES, IT'S IS THERE AN ASK SO $9500 OF THE $12,000 EXPENDITURES. OKAY WE'RE AT 33,000 AT THE MOMENT, OKAY? SHE HAD PLENTY OF ROOM THERE. DISTRICT GOT 6500. YOU COULD ADD, HAD ALREADY DONE THAT. HOW MUCH 1,000,000 OKAY, COUNSELING OVER HILL. $500 FROM DISTRICT 10. THANK YOU. I CAN DO $500 FROM DISTRICT NINE AS WELL. THANK YOU. GREAT. COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER $1000 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT. HE WILL. SHE NONE. PLEASE I NEED A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT. SECOND AMENDMENT IS BEFORE US QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS ABOUT THE AMENDMENT SEEING NONE.
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ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT SAY I OPPOSE AMENDMENT PASSES. NOW WE HAVE THE MINUTE ORDINANCE BEFORE US WHICH CULTURAL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCIL MEMBER MCRANEY YES.COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN YES. COUNCIL MEMBER, FOWLER. TRY TO REFRESH. IT WORKED FOR ME. MR CHAIR. YOU HAVE 11? YES VOTES. GOOD. I DON'T PASSES AND WE'LL GO TO A BUSINESS BECAUSE THE AMENDMENT THANK YOU. ITEM THREE IS APPROPRIATING $9520 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS AND SPEED HUMPS, SONS AND DUNDEE ROAD BETWEEN CIVILIAN WAY AND PAGE AVENUE OCEAN. PROBABLY MOTION SECONDED COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER. IN PURSUIT OF VISION IN WHICH EVERYONE CAN GET SAILING SAFELY FROM PLACE TO PLACE. AND WE HAVE A WALKABLE COMMUNITY AND OUT OF RESPECT FOR THE DUKES OF HAZZARD. WE WILL BE BRINGING FORTH A VARIETY OF SPEED HUMPS. PROPOSALS IN THIS COMMITTEE HAD ASKED FOR HER YES VOTES. MR CHAIR? YES COULD I MAKE A MOTION TO COMBINE THE VOTES OF ITEMS NUMBER 345 AND SIX BECAUSE THEY ARE ALL DISTRICT EIGHT CF ORDINANCES RELATED TO SPEED UPS FOR THE INTEREST OF TIME. OBJECTION TO ONE BIG VOTE ON IT. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA UNLESS THERE'S AN OBJECTION. ANYONE OBJECTS SECOND. YEP. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. LET'S DO IT.
GOOD. ALL RIGHT. SO ANY ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNS SEEING NONE. WE WILL VOTE. ARE WE GOOD CLERK? YEP. ALL RIGHT. CORRECT. UM. SEE NONE. THEN WE'LL VOTE ON THOSE ITEMS TOGETHER. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ALRIGHT, I POST. YEAH, I HAVE IT. I DON'T PASS THIS.
ITEMS. YES. CERTAINLY. I'M SORRY, SO I DON'T FOUR WE ALSO JUST VOTED ON WASN'T APPROPRIATING $9520 FROM DISTRICT CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS AND SPEED HUMPS SIGNS ON HEPBURN AVENUE BETWEEN BAXTER AVENUE AND BURIED AVENUE. ITEM FIVE IS APPROPRIATING $9520 FROM DISTRICT CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE STRUCTURE, FUNDS TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS AND SPEED HUMPS. SIGNS ON THE HIVE. YOU ARE HIGHLAND AVENUE, BETWEEN BAXTER AVENUE AND BAIRD AVENUE IN ITEM SIX IS APPROPRIATELY $9520 FROM DISTRICT. A CAPITAL INFRASTRUCTURE FUNDS TO PUBLIC WORKS FOR THE INSTALLATION OF SPEED HUMPS AND SPEED HUMPS, SONS ON ROSEWOOD AVENUE BETWEEN BARDSTOWN ROAD AND BAXTER AVENUE. READ IN FULL AND WE'VE ALREADY VOTED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I DON'T SEVEN PROGRAMMING $2500 FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, NEVER DEVELOPMENT, FANCY OFFICE MANAGEMENT BUDGET TO THE JEWISH FAMILY AND CAREER SERVICES OF LOUISVILLE, INC J. FCS FOR THE J FCS COMMUNITY CHAT TO BE HELD ON SEPTEMBER 5TH 2023. PROBABLY MOTION SECOND COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER. THIS IS A PROGRAM THAT'S HOSTED BY JAY FCS IS A COMMUNITY CHAT FOCUSED ON REFUGEES AND IMMIGRANTS IN THE WORK FORCE. IT WILL BE ON SEPTEMBER 5TH. DURING THE WELCOME MONTH INVITE YOU ALL TO JOIN US ALRIGHT QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, SAYING THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I POSED AS HAVING PASSED THIS ITEM EIGHT IS APPROPRIATING $500. FROM DISTRICT NINE NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FANCY OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET TO THE SILVER TONES INC FOR THE MUSICAL PERFORMANCE AT VARIOUS NURSING HOMES AND REHABILITATION CENTERS IN LOUISVILLE MOTION. MORE THAN A SECOND. COUNCILOR NO. ONE EXACTLY WHAT IT SAYS IT IS. IT'S A REALLY COOL ORGANIZATION THAT TRAVELS AROUND TO DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS AND THINGS AND TRIES TO LIFT PEOPLE'S SPIRITS.
SO WE'RE FINDING $2500. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. COUNSELING CREAM . KATHRYN NOLAN, I'M I'VE NEVER I DON'T WANT TO STAND BETWEEN THE DECISION YOU MADE AND YOUR NDF BUT I'M ASSUMING YOU ARE AWARE OF THE MUSIC FUND THAT WE HAVE ACCESS TO AND YOU HAVE ALREADY EXHAUSTED THAT YES, AND OKAY, I'M TRYING TO FIND A WAY TO SAVE YOU. $500 THANK YOU. THERE MAY BE OTHERS THAT HAVE MONEY LEFT IN THAT ACCOUNT THAT MIGHT BE WILLING. BUT THIS IS SEPTEMBER 5TH. OH, OKAY. OKAY WELL, WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR FUTURE ONE. JUST FOR REFERENCE. THANK YOU BEFORE US.
ARE THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE, ALRIGHT, SEVEN PASSES. I DON'T NONE IS APPROPRIATING $4335 FROM DISTRICT 10 NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS TO THE OFFICE OF MANAGEMENT BUDGET TO GEORGE
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ROGERS CLARK PARK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION FOR THEIR ANNUAL EVENTS, WHICH INCLUDED MOVIE NIGHT MULBERRY HILL FALL FESTIVAL, EASTER EGG HUNT AND BANNED IN THE PARK. MOTION MOTION SECOND COUNSELOR OVER HILL. YES THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT WAS CREATED UNDER JIM KING'S TENURE, AND IT CONTINUES TO THRIVE IN THESE EVENTS ARE BIG HITS, AND THEY'RE OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SPORT. THANKS. VERY GOOD. QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS SAYING THAT ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. PROPOSED SEVEN ITEM PASSES. I DON'T 10 IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 91 SERIES 2023 APPROPRIATING $17,200 FROM NEIGHBORHOOD DEVELOPMENT FUNDS IN THE FOLLOWING MANNER. $12,200 FROM DISTRICT, 14 AND $5000 FROM DISTRICT 12 TO PUBLIC WORKS TO PROVIDE FUNDS TO PEE WEE TREE SERVICE FOR THE LAWN.MAINTENANCE SERVICES THAT ROSE FROM PARK IN DISTRICT 12 AND BRIGHT SITES IN DISTRICT 14 BY WITHDRAWING THE FAT CELLS AND DOLLARS APPROPRIATION FROM DISTRICT 12 MOTION. IN THE SECOND AND THIS ONE IS MINE. AND WE HAD, UM THIS IS, UM REDUCING THE AMOUNT BECAUSE WE HAD AN AGREEMENT TO HAVE THEM MAINTAINED. ROSE THORN PARK. UM AND IT IS BEING MAINTAINED BY PARKS, WHICH IS RIGHT, ACTUALLY RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET. QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS SEEM SEEING NONE. THIS ISN'T HORNETS CROSS RIGHT CALLING FOR ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCIL MEMBER MCRANEY. I'M SORRY, MA'AM. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. YES THANK YOU TYPE THING.
COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN YES. MR. CHAIR. YOU HAVE 11 YEARS, BUT VERY GOOD. I DON'T PASS. THIS WILL GO TO CONSENT ITEM 11 IS APPROPRIATING $550 FROM DISTRICT 18 DEVELOPMENT FUNDS, LITTLE METRO ANIMAL SERVICES FOR LOW COST RABIES PET CLINIC TO BE HELD AT PLAINVIEW TENNIS CENTER PAVILION AND OCTOBER 21ST 2023 MOTION MOTION. SECONDING COUNCILMAN PARKER. DON'T HAVE TO SPEAK TO IT. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO WHICH IS GOING TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE FOR ME TO PUT THIS IN THEIR E NEWS WOULD BE HAPPY TO AWESOME. QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS SEEING NONE FAVORITES, AI POST ITEM PASSES I DON'T 12 IS AN ORDINANCE CONCERNING THE LEVEE OF TAXES WITHIN LOCAL JEFFERSON COUNTY, MITCHELL GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT FOR FISCAL YEAR ENDING JUNE 30TH 2024. MOTION PROPERTY MOTION SECONDED WE'VE BEFORE US. IF YOU'RE JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD AND I'LL LET YOU HAVE THE FLOOR. SURE GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. ANGELA DUNN, CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR LOCAL METRO, WHERE YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU IS AN ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHES THE PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR BOTH REAL AND PERSONAL PROPERTY, THE PROPOSED REAL PROPERTY RIGHT FOR METRO IS THE SAME AS LAST YEAR, WHILE THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT REAL PROPERTY RATE REPRESENTS A DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR. IN ADDITION, THE PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR BOTH METRO AND THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICTS ARE INCREASING SLIGHTLY DUE TO THE LOWER THAN NORMAL ASSESSMENT GROWTH COMPARED TO LAST YEAR. THIS IS IN KEEPING WITH THE 24 BUDGET THAT WAS INTRODUCED AND ADOPTED THIS APRIL IN JUNE. THE METRO AREA OF REAL PROPERTY TAX IS PROPOSED TO BE 12.40 CENTS PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH IS GREATER THAN THE NEWLY DEFINED COMPENSATING RATE OF 11.90 CENTS AND THE SAME AS LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED RATE OF 12.40. CENTS PER $100 ASSESSED VALUE. THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT. REAL PROPERTY TAX RATE IS PROPOSED TO BE 34.40. SINCE PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE, WHICH IS GREATER THAN THE NEWLY DEFINED COMPENSATING RATE OF 33.10 CENTS, AND A DECREASE FROM LAST YEAR'S ADOPTED RATE OF 35.80 CENTS. THE PROPOSED REAL PROPERTY TAX RATES FOR FY 24 REPRESENT THE ALLOWABLE 4% REVENUE GROWTH ON THE EXISTING PROPERTY TAX BASE UNDER HOUSE BILL 44 AND ARE NOT SUBJECT TO A VOTER RECALL. A NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING ON THE FY 24 PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATES WILL BE POSTED ON METRO LOCALS WEBSITE IN ACCORDANCE WITH KRS 4 24.14145. AND IN ACCORDING TO THE KRS 1 32.0 TO 7. THE NOTICE WILL ANNOUNCE THAT THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC HEARING ON THE PROPOSED PROPERTY TAX RATES AT 12 NOON ON WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 13TH IN ROOM ONE OF SIX OF METRO HALL, THE PUBLIC HEARING IS A CHANCE FOR CITIZENS TO COMMENT ON THE PROPOSED RATES. A FEW PIECES OF JUST A FEW FACTS TO SHARE A FEW ADDITIONAL FACTS TO SHARE THE OVERALL REAL PROPERTY EVALUATION FOR LOUISVILLE METRO WAS 86.1
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BILLION, WHICH IS AN INCREASE OF 5.9 BILLION OR 7.4% FROM THE PRIOR YEAR. THE NET NEW PROPERTY EDITIONS FOR LOCAL METRO TOTALED 1.2 BILLION. THE FY 24 BUDGET THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVED PLANS FOR A COMBINED TOTAL OF ■KD182,960,000 AND PERSONAL PROPERTY TAXES. EARLY ESTIMATES ARE THAT THE TAX LEVY WILL LEAVE EXCUSE ME, WE'LL LEAVE US LIKELY TO ACHIEVE THAT TOTAL IN AGGREGATE WITH THESE RATES. THE AMOUNT OF FINAL ASSESSMENTS AFTER APPEALS ALONG WITH THE ACTUAL PAYMENT RATE, ONCE THE SHERIFF MALES THE TAX BILLS THIS FOLLOW, ULTIMATELY DETERMINE OUR COLLECTION. I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE, SINCE IT IS A MAJOR PIECE OF OUR PLANNED REVENUES FOR FY 24 AND I WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. VERY GOOD. AH COUNSELOR, MP ARGENTINA THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. WE'VE. BECAUSE GOING THROUGH AND COUNSELING ARTHUR'S BEEN PART OF THIS COMMISSION, LOOKING AT A MERGER COUNCILMAN FOUNDER HAS BEEN A PART OF IT AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WAS EXAMINED. WAS ESSENTIALLY THE GENERAL FUND REVENUE ADJUSTMENT THAT GOES TO THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT EVERY YEAR TO OFFSET YOUR DEFICIT REALLY, DEPENDING FOR SERVICES THAT ARE ACCOUNTED FOR WITHIN THAT JURISDICTION. UH NOW TO BE CLEAR TO EVERYBODY. THAT'S BEEN GOING ON SINCE PRE MERGER RIGHT EVEN SINCE PRE MERGER THE COUNTY HAS HAD SOME KIND OF BUDGET MOVEMENT. TO WHAT? THAT TIME WAS THE OLD CITY OF LOUISVILLE TO OFFSET CERTAIN COSTS, RIGHT? THE WHAT'S CONCERNING IS THAT IT HAS SEEN A RAPID GROWTH IN THE PAST TWO OR THREE YEARS. A LOT OF THAT IS PROBABLY ALMOST DIRECTLY ATTRIBUTABLE TO THE AMOUNT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE MOVED OUT OF THE USD AND IN THE SUBURBAN AREAS JUST LOOKING AT CENSUS DATA, RIGHT? BUT THE QUESTION IS WHAT? HOW IS THAT GOING TO CONTINUE, AND WE DID SEE A REDUCTION IN ONE OF THESE TAXES. AND SO THE QUESTION IS. HOW DOES THAT COMPORT RIGHT? IN OTHER WORDS, IF YOU GO BACK TO LAST APPROXIMATELY 10 YEARS THAT GENERAL FUND ADJUSTMENT WAS IN THE 8 TO $10 MILLION RANGE, AND THEN RECENTLY IT SHOT UP $27 MILLION. AND YOU KNOW THE REAL IMPACT IS FOR EVERY MILLION DOLLARS THAT SHIFTS. IT IS $1 MILLION LESS THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE OVERALL COUNTY. NOT THAT IT WOULD GO OUTSIDE OF THE U. S. D BUT LESS THAT'S AVAILABLE TO THE OVERALL COUNTY TO PAY FOR SERVICES BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO OFFSET SPECIFICALLY THOSE THINGS THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE ONLY PAID FOR ABOUT USD TAX RATES. SO HOW IS THIS TAX RATE MOVEMENT? GOING TO STABILIZE OR AT LEAST GET BACK TO NORMAL. WHAT THE GENERAL FUND ADJUSTMENT WAS WELL , COUPLE OF POINTS. I WANT TO COMMENT ON THE GENERAL FUND CONTRIBUTION THAT YOU'RE REFERENCING THE 27 MILLION. I BELIEVE WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THAT NUMBER. SO THAT'S A FORECASTED NUMBER, BUT IT IS AN INCREASE FROM WHAT YOU HAVE SEEN IN PREVIOUS YEARS. SO WE ARE WORKING ON THAT. SOME OF THAT CAN ALSO BE ATTRIBUTED TO JUST THE GENERAL COST OF DOING BUSINESS RIGHT OVERTIME WAGES FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE WORKING THOSE THAT WORK IN THOSE SPECIFIC SERVICES. UM. SO AND JUST THE GENERAL COST OF DOING BUSINESS COSTS OF EQUIPMENT.COST OF SUPPLIES. YOU KNOW, THAT IS ALSO AN INCREASED COST THAT I THINK IS REFLECTED OVERALL OR YOU JUST HAVE A GENERAL INCREASE IN THE COST OF DOING BUSINESS. UM SO JUST TO COMMENT ON ON THAT. AH THAT CONTRIBUTION. THE GENERAL FUND IS ALSO MADE UP OF MORE THAN JUST PROPERTY TAX AND WE TALKED ABOUT A CONTRIBUTION FROM THE GENERAL FUND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, OCCUPATIONAL LICENSE TAXES. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT INSURANCE TAXES. THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THE GENERAL FUND. SO I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT IT'S NOT JUST PROPERTY TAX THAT IS BEING USED TO HELP. COMPENSATE FOR THOSE SERVICES. AS FAR AS THE RATE THAT WE HAVE BEFORE US TODAY. I MEAN, I THINK WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE IS THAT IT'S WITHIN THAT 4% CAP THAT WE HAVE TO WORK WITHIN. SO I DON'T KNOW THAT, UM INCREASING THAT RATE. UM IF THAT'S IF THAT'S WHAT THE QUESTION IS TO TRY TO HELP STABILIZE WHAT SORT OF CONTRIBUTION THE GENERAL FUND YOU KNOW, NEEDS TO PROVIDE TO SOME OF THESE SERVICES IN THE IN THE URBAN DISTRICT WOULD HAVE TO DO A CALCULATION ON THAT, YOU KNOW, AND I DON'T HAVE THAT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO GET BACK TO YOU ON. SO LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY. FIRST OF ALL THIS RATE ADJUSTMENT IN RATES AND THE 4% OF 4% IS THE ABSOLUTE NUMBER TOTAL NUMBER OF TAXES. PLUS 4% DOES THIS UTILIZE THE ENTIRETY OF THE 4? IS IT LIKE 3.99, OR IS IT LIKE 2? YES IT DOES. IT'S BEFORE, OKAY, SO AND I'M NOT ADVOCATING TO EXCEED IT.
SO THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ADVOCATING FOR TODAY IN TRIGGERING ALL THE MACHINATIONS THAT HAPPENED FROM THAT. BUT THAT'S GOOD TO KNOW. AND MY LAST QUESTION IS, I'M ASSUMING THEN
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THE TIME TO HAVE THAT DISCUSSION IS PROBABLY DURING THE REGULAR BUDGET IS THAT CORRECT? IN OTHER WORDS? WE'RE HERE, RIGHT? EVEN IF I SAID, HEY, WE SHOULD ADJUST THIS. WE'VE ACCOUNTED FOR THIS.THESE RATES IN THE EXISTING BUDGET THAT WE'VE ALREADY PASSED ON REALITY MOVING FORWARD. IF WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON STABILIZING AND GET TO YOUR POINT, I AGREE THAT INFLATIONARY MEASURES HAVE TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR OCCUPATIONAL TAX IS TWO THIRDS COMPARED TO PROPERTY TEXT WHAT THIRD SO THAT HAS TO BE ACCOUNTED FOR RIGHT NOW. THAT'S SO I DON'T DISAGREE WITH ANYTHING YOU SAID. BUT I THINK THE POINT IS, IF WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE STABILIZING THE GENERAL FUND TRANSFER. WE REALLY NEED TO DO IT DURING THE BUDGET HEARINGS. THIS IS THE TIME TO DO IS THAT ALSO CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S HELPFUL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.
THANK YOU SO MUCH URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT BOARD. IT'S ALMOST LIKE A SHADOW BOARD. IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND INFORMATION ABOUT IT AND WHAT THEY DO MINUTES WHEN THEY MEET AND WHATNOT. BUT I DIDN'T NOTICE JUST AND LOOKING THEM UP AS WE'VE BEEN DOING OUR WORK ON THE COMMISSION. TO STUDY MERGER.
THAT OFF FIVE. OF THE BOARD SEATS EXPIRED ON AUGUST, THE 13TH. WE APPOINTED AND APPROVED THREE PEOPLE LAST THURSDAY, SO I JUST WANTED TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF THE IMPACTS OF US PASSING THIS WHEN THERE ARE STILL TWO EXPIRED SEATS OR DOESN'T MATTER AND JUST A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF WHEN THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO USED TO BE ON THE URBAN SERVICES DISTRICT BOARD WERE INVOLVED IN CREATING THIS LEGISLATION. I DON'T BELIEVE IT WOULD HAVE AN IMPACT ON PASSING IT TODAY. OKAY? AND THEN THE BOARD MEMBERS THAT TERMS EXPIRED, ASSUMED THEY WERE INVOLVED IN WORKING ON THIS BEFORE IT EXPIRED. I WOULDN'T. YEAH NOT TO MY KNOWLEDGE. OKAY.
THANK YOU. COUNCILOR. BRING A WEBER THANK YOU FOR THIS, AND I'M SUPER INTERESTED IN DELVING INTO MORE OF THE PIECES OF THE URBAN SERVICE DISTRICT DATA. FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT ON THE COMMISSION BOARD. I WOULD LOVE TO ENCOURAGE THE COMMISSION TO SHARE THE DATA THAT IS UNDERLYING DOCTOR COOMBS IS ANALYSIS. SO THAT IT MIGHT BE AND I KNOW YOU DO, BUT I'M JUST SAYING IT OUT LOUD IN THIS VENUE SO THAT IT MIGHT BE AH, ANALYZED BY EXTERNAL FOLKS. DR COMBS HAS HIMSELF EXPRESSED A LOT OF RESERVATIONS, SAID I DON'T FEEL LIKE VERY COMFORTABLE WITH THESE NUMBERS. MASSIVE ERRORS HAVE BEEN POINTED OUT TO HIM, AND HE HAS SAID I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH THESE AND THE ANALYSIS COMING OUT OF IT IS NOT OPTIMAL. UM AND NOT CONSISTENT WITH THE SAME ANALYSIS BEING DONE IN OTHER CITIES, WHICH WOULD EITHER INDICATE THAT WE ARE A MASSIVE OUTLIER IN A LOT OF THE PIECES OR THE ANALYSIS IS BAD. UM AND SO I WOULD JUST HIGHLY ENCOURAGED THE COMMISSION TO RELEASE THAT DATA SO THAT WE COULD BE HAVING AN INFORMED CONVERSATION OF WHICH THIS IS ONE PART. COUNCILMAN OWEN. I WOULD THROW. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MP ARGENTINA. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I WANT TO CLARIFY SOMETHING THAT IS ACTUALLY A COUPLE OF THINGS. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S NOT JUST DOCTOR COMES WAS ACTUALLY TWO ECONOMISTS, ONE FROM UK AND ONE FROM YOU ABOUT UH, I WOULD. I WOULD ARGUE THEIR WORK IS IMPECCABLE, RIGHT? THE QUESTION IS, I MEAN THAT COOMBS DID SOME OF THE ORIGINAL ANALYSIS ON ORIGINAL MERGER. HIS WORK WITH THE CITY GOES BACK ON MULTIPLE PROJECTS. UH I LIKE ACTUALLY THE LEAST ONE GENTLEMAN FOLLOWS ME ON TWITTER. IT'S A LOT OF FUN TO GO BACK AND FORTH WITH YOU. CRUNCH SOME NUMBERS DOESN'T SEXUAL DATA WE HAVE ASKED. UH I'VE ASKED THE CITY TO MAKE THAT AS TRANSPARENT AS POSSIBLE. IT IS NOT BEEN EITHER DOCTOR COOMBS OR HIS COLLEAGUE, UK OR MYSELF, OR ANYBODY ELSE THAT DOESN'T WANT THE DATA OUT THERE. REALLY CITY SHOULD PUT IT OUT THERE AND I DON'T KNOW WHO'S HOLDING IT UP, SO I, BUT I TOTALLY AGREE. I WOULD ALSO SAY IS, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF CONFUSION ON THE ASSUMPTIONS THAT HAD TO BE MADE. ALL ECONOMISTS HAVE TO MAKE ASSUMPTIONS, RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW , HIS WORK BASED ON THOSE ASSUMPTIONS ARE ACCURATE. WHAT I'VE SEEN IS OTHER PEOPLE MAKING DIFFERENT ASSUMPTIONS, AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF THAT. AND THAT IS DO YOU COUNT OCCUPATIONAL TAX REVENUE FROM WHERE THE PERSON LIVES COMPARED TO WHERE THE PERSON WORKS? I LIVE IN DISTRICT 18. I'M WORKING DISTRICT FOUR. MY TAXES. PUT IT TO YOU THIS WAY. IF I WASN'T ALLOWED TO LIVE IN DISTRICT, 18, I WOULD NOT WORK IN DISTRICT FOUR RIGHT THAT SO I WOULD NOT. SO WHERE DO YOU ACCOUNT FOR THAT TAX REVENUE? SOME PEOPLE WANT TO ACCOUNT FOR WHERE YOU WORK. SOME PEOPLE WANT TO COUNT FOR IT WHERE YOU LIVE RIGHT SO THAT
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IT'S A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. BUT I JUST WANTED TO BE CLEAR THAT I THINK THE ECONOMIST DID THE BEST THEY COULD, WITH THE DATA PROVIDED VERY GOOD WORK WITH IT. UM WE I JOIN COUNCILMAN ARENA WEBER AND SAYING ALL DATA THAT WE USE SHOULD ALWAYS BE AS PUBLIC AS POSSIBLE. AND I FRANKLY DON'T KNOW WHO'S HOLDING THAT UP. BUT. I'LL JOIN IN THE CALL. THANK YOU, TINA WEBER. YEP AND I WOULD NOT HAVING WORKED WITH DR COMBS FOR MORE THAN A DECADE WITH THE GREATER LEVEL PROJECT. I'M NOT IMPENDING HIS WORK NOW IT IS A REALLY OPEN QUESTION. EVERYBODY SEEMS TO THINK EVERYONE ELSE IS HOLDING UP THE RELEASE OF THE DATA. I WOULD LOVE TO KNOW IF NO ONE IS HOLDING IT UP. WHY? WE HAVEN'T RELEASED IT YET. OKAY, SO NOT I WILL NOT BELIEVE THIS ANY LONGER. VERY GOOD. THE ORDINANCE COMING FOR A ROLL CALL VOTE. PLEASE OPEN THE VOTING. COUNCIL MEMBER MCRANEY. YES, COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN. YES. MR. CHAIR. YOU HAVE 11 YEARS VOTES. THANK YOU, MADAM. PASS THIS WE'LL GO TO CONSENT. OUR LAST ITEM IS 13. THANK YOU. BUT OH, IT'S WITHDRAWING. CORRECT. VERY GOOD. THAT WAS OUR LIFESTYLE ON THAT. ANYTHING ELSE WOULD COME BEFORE[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]
US, IF NOT, AN INTERNATIONAL JOURNAL. OBJECTION. WE ARE ADJOURNED. SEE YOU NEXT TIME.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.