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PEACE WALKING TO THE PARKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 31ST 2023,[00:24:26]
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WE HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, FOWLER. RUI HUDSON AND BAT SEAN. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO K R S 61.826. COUNCIL RULE FIVE A. WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER TWO BECAUSE ITEM NUMBER ONE MIGHT TAKE A WHILE. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS OUR DASH 087-23 A RESOLUTION PURSUANT TO THE CAPITAL AND OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCES APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO[00:25:01]
FUND THE FOLLOWING SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR THE ZOO CONCERNING PARTS MAINTENANCE, REPAIR AND SERVICE FOR THE ZOO'S ANTIQUE. CONSERVATION CAROUSEL, CAROUSEL ZOOS AND CARVINGS INC $200,000 MAY HAVE EMOTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE HAVE A SPECIAL GUEST ONLINE WITH US. PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME. TITLE. AND TELL US WHAT WE GOT IN FRONT OF US. AND STEPHANIE MORE. ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OF THE LOUISVILLE ZOO, AND THIS IS A CONTRACT FOR PARACELS AND CARVINGS ARE CONSERVATION. CURA SONG IS CURRENTLY 100 AND FOUR YEARS OLD . UM IT WAS BUILT IN 1919, AND THIS IS THE ONLY MANUFACTURER ONLY VENDOR WHO PROVIDES THE PARTS FOR OUR CAROUSEL. UM ORIGINAL MANUFACTURER ACTUALLY SOLD THIS CONTRACTOR ALL OF THE PARTS AND HE CAN HOLD AND MAKE PARTS REPLACEMENT PARTS AND CARVES THE UM, ANIMALS THAT ARE ON THE CONSERVATION HERE IS ALL AS WELL. SO THIS IS FUNDED THROUGH OUR OPERATIONS RECEIPTS , AND IT'S NOT TO EXCEED $200,000. IS THIS? THE ONLY CONTRACTOR IN THE CITY STATE? COUNTRY WORLD, THE ONLY CONTRACTOR IN THE UNITED STATES THAT WE ARE AWARE OF THERE WERE TWO AND NOW THERE'S JUST DOWN TO THIS MORNING. UNDERSTOOD. WE ARE JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER OVER HILL. DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING TO THIS SINCE SHE SPONSORED IT IN THE ZOOS IN YOUR DISTRICT? THE ONLY THING I WOULD OFTEN ADD, AND I DIDN'T HEAR IT, SO I'LL HIGHLIGHT AND APOLOGIZE FOR JUST GETTING ON. UM THIS IS A PRETTY UNIQUE THING, AND IT'S AN OLD CAROUSEL. I BELIEVE I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE AGE OF IT IS, BUT I'M HEARING WHEN SHE STEPHANIE JUST ALLUDED TO. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE.UNFORTUNATELY NOT A LOT OF CAROUSEL WORKER ARE WORKER BEES OUT THERE TO FIX THINGS, BUT THIS IS A GREAT RIDE MY KIDS. GOSH I CAN REMEMBER WHEN THEY WERE YOUNG WERE ON THIS CAROUSEL . ONE OF THE THINGS MY MOM USED TO TAKE THEM AND THEY HAVE ALWAYS HAD AT THE END AS THEY WALKED THAT WAY, AND THEY FINISHED AT THE CAROUSEL, BUT SOMETHING THAT WAS THE HIGHLIGHT OF MANY THINGS THAT AND SO, UM WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO TO GET INTO THE NEXT AND UP AND OPERATIONAL REPORT, SO I APPRECIATE THE ZOOM TRYING TO GET IT MOVING. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. COMMITTEE MEMBER BASH ON. THANK YOU CHAIR. UM THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND REPRESENTATION OF THE ZOO. AND I THINK THE CAROUSEL IS AMAZING ALSO, BUT MY QUESTION IS YOU SAID WE HAD TO CAROUSEL REPAIR PEOPLE, AND NOW WE'RE DOWN TO ONE. WHAT ARE THE ODDS AND WHEN YOU KNOW HOPEFULLY , THAT OTHER PLACE DOESN'T GO OUT OF BUSINESS ANYTIME SOON.
BUT WHEN WERE YOU THINKING? ANTICIPATE REPLACING THE CAROUSEL COMPLETELY, WHICH WOULD BE AN UNFORTUNATE SITUATION. BUT WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THAT CAROUSEL COMPANY GOES OUT OF BUSINESS OR DOESN'T WORK ANYMORE? I CAN'T SPECULATE IS TO WIN OR IF THAT WOULD HAPPEN, UM WE CURRENTLY HAVE NO PLANS OR NO FUNDS TO REPLACE THE CAROUSEL. IF FOR SOME REASON IT NEEDED TO BE REPLACED BECAUSE PARTS WERE NO LONGER AVAILABLE. UM I DO KNOW THE COMPANY THAT WE WORK WITH.
UM I BELIEVE HE HAS SOME SUCCESSION PLANNING BEHIND HIM AND HER TRAINING PEOPLE TO COME UP SO THAT WHEN THIS GENTLEMAN WHO RUNS THIS COMPANY IS READY TO MOVE ON TO SOMETHING ELSE THERE ARE. THERE ARE GAY PEOPLE COMING UP BEHIND HIM THAT HE'S TRAINED? WHO CAN DO THIS WORK? AWESOME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOR THE RECORD. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COMMITTEE MEMBER BAKER I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. WELL, ONCE TWICE. CORN THRICE. AND I WOULD ALSO LOVE TO CO SPONSOR AND HONOR OF MY KIDS. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS A RESOLUTION SO WE CAN HAVE A VOICE VOTE ALL IN FAVOR. SAY I AM ANY OPPOSED. THAT WOULD HAVE LOOKED BAD IT PASSES. WE'LL ADD THIS TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WE DO. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, WE WILL JUMP BACK TO ITEM NUMBER ONE. ARE. DASH 073-23 RESOLUTION ENCOURAGING COLLABORATION BETWEEN METRO GOVERNMENT AND LOCAL RESTAURANTS TO MINIMIZE THE WASTE OF SINGLE USE. PLASTICS AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION, AND I THINK WE NEED A MOTION TO UNTANGLE IT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY? ALL RIGHT. HOW DOES IT WORK? WE GOT THE RESOLUTION. WE DID HAVE A SEAT. EVERYBODY MOTION. YEAH PICK
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ANYBODY YOU WANT. OKAY THE QUEUE IS EMPTY. I KNOW. WE GOT TWO COSPONSORS ON THIS. SO WHO WANTS TO JUMP IN FIRST SPEAK? ALL RIGHT. COMMITTEE MEMBER RULING. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH, UM I'D LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THIS . UH OKAY. WE GOT MY NOTES HERE. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT THIS AS AN ORDINANCE AGAIN. I REALIZED SOME FOLKS DON'T THINK IN ORDINANCE IS WARRANTED IN THIS CASE, AND I DISAGREE LIKE TO TELL YOU WHY. WE ARE FACING A CRISIS PLANET WIDE WHEN IT COMES TO TRASH. WE QUITE LITERALLY FILL UP HOLES IN THE GROUND WITH STUFF WE NO LONGER DEEMED USEFUL. OUR ANCESTORS WOULD BE SHOCKED AT THE AMOUNT OF STUFF WE SIMPLY DUMPING HOLES IN THE GROUND. THESE ITEMS REPRESENT A WASTE OF OUR PRECIOUS NATURAL RESOURCES. THEY'RE ALREADY PLACES IN THE WORLD WHERE FAMILIES EKE OUT A LIVING, SALVAGING USABLE PLASTIC FROM LANDFILLS. AND WHY WHY ARE WE EVEN THROWING SUCH THINGS LIKE THIS IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL CRISIS. IT'S ALSO A MORAL CRISIS. WHAT KIND OF WORLD ARE WE LEAVING FOR OUR CHILDREN? OUR GRANDCHILDREN. IT'S A WORLD FILLED WITH TRASH STREWN ALONG ROADSIDES BREAKS DOWN INTO SMALLER AND SMALLER PARTICLES UNTIL THEY'RE SO SMALL THAT WE'RE CONSUMING THEM. WE'RE ALREADY CONSUMING THE AMOUNT OF PLASTIC AND A CREDIT CARD EVERY WEEK, ACCORDING TO SOME ESTIMATES, AND THAT'S JUST SHOCKING. I'VE HEARD SOME PEOPLE CATCH THIS AS A FREEDOM OF CHOICE ARGUMENT. DID YOU CHOOSE TO CONSUME THAT PLASTIC WITH A GLASS OF WATER THIS MORNING OR IN YOUR ICED TEA AT LUNCH, WHICH IS THE WAY A LOT OF THAT PLASTIC IS GOING INTO YOUR BODY. IT'S SO FINE, SO TINY. IT'S IN YOUR WATER AND THEY CAN'T FILTER IT OUT. TO THE ANIMALS SEE GET A CHOICE AS TO WHAT THEY CONSUME WHEN THE OCEANS HAVE MORE PLASTIC THAN FISH. THIS ORDINANCE IS A VERY SMALL STEP TO ADDRESS A BIG PROBLEM. AND AS I'VE TAKEN THIS BACK, AND I'VE WORKED ON THE UM, ISSUES THAT FOLKS HAD WITH IT. I'VE WORKED WITH MULTIPLE RESTAURANTS. I'VE WORKED WITH THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION TO CRAFT AN ORDINANCE THAT PUTS THE LEAST BURDEN ON BUSINESSES THAT ARE ALREADY MAKING WISE CHOICES. THEY ALREADY ASKED. IF YOU'D LIKE UTENSILS OR CONDIMENTS. IT MAKES GOOD ECONOMIC SENSE FOR THEM. I'VE ALSO REACHED OUT TO DELIVERY SERVICES TO GET FEEDBACK FROM THEIR PERSPECTIVE . NONE OF THEM RETURNED MY CALLS. I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE CHANGES THAT I'VE MADE IN THIS JUST SO YOU GUYS UNDERSTAND. SO THE BIG ONE. THE BIGGEST ARGUMENT SOON TO BE THE ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM OF IT, SO WE CHANGED IT CONSIDERABLY IN THE TEXT READS NOW. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THE TRAINING COURSE FOOD SERVICE MANAGER SHALL SIGN A FORM PROVIDED BY THE BOARD OF HEALTH ATTESTING THAT THEIR FOOD EMPLOYEES WILL BE EDUCATED ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION BEFORE RECEIVING A CERTIFICATION. BY DOING IT THIS WAY. IT REMOVES IT FROM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT FOR ENFORCEMENT IS NOW CONSIDERED PERJURY TO VIOLATE IT, SO THERE'S NO LONGER A BURDEN ON THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. AND THEN ON. WHEN THIS TAKES EFFECT, IT SHALL TAKE EFFECT SIX MONTHS AFTER HIS PASSAGE AND APPROVAL. FOR THE GENERAL ORDINANCE, AND IT WOULD THAT WILL BE ON A ROTATING BASIS AS RESTAURANTS COME UP TO GET THEIR NEW PERMITS. THEY WILL BE ASKED TO SIGN THIS ARTIST STATION SO IT WILL NOT BE EVERYBODY WANTS. IT WILL BE ON A ROLLING BASIS AND IT'LL BE APPROVAL FOR DELIVERY SERVICES. APPROVAL FOR DELIVERIES FROM FOOD SERVICES TABLET SHIPMENTS ONE YEAR AFTER ITS PASSAGE. AS I SAID, I'VE TRIED TO CONTACT THE FOOD DELIVERY SERVICES THEY HAVE NOT RESPONDED. THERE ARE MULTIPLE ORDINANCES ACROSS THE NATION THAT ALREADY REQUIRED THE DELIVERY SERVICES. PUT THIS IN THERE. AND SO I DO NOT HAVE ANY REASON THEY COULD NOT COME THEN DID NOT COME BACK TO ME TO GIVE ME A REASON WHY THIS IS WHY THIS IS A DIFFICULTY FOR THEM, AND I KNOW THEY DO UPDATES ON THINGS CONSTANTLY. SO I HAVE NO REASON TO BELIEVE THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CANNOT BE DONE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UM I WOULD LIKE TO DO THIS AS THE MEMBERS. MY SUBSTITUTION. THANK YOU. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN FRONT OF US.ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE FOR THE AMENDMENT? ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE FOR SOMETHING ELSE? THE QUEUE WAS FOR DISCUSSION ON UNTANGLING AND HAVING THE DISCUSSION. THERE WAS NO MOTION TO PUT AN AMENDMENT THAT SUBSTITUTION UNTIL AFTER SHE READ IT. OKAY SO THAT'S THAT WAS ALREADY MOTION SECONDED. SO ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE? DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE AMENDMENT? I CAN TALK TO THE AMENDMENT BRIEFLY, BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU'RE IN THE QUEUE TO ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT THE AMENDMENT. BUT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO VOTE. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU ALL DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT
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THE AMENDMENT BEFORE WE VOTE. YEAH, WE GOT EMOTION IN A SECOND. FOR THE MEMBERS. SO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT? BUT ARE YOU ALL ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE TO TALK ABOUT IT? OKAY I'LL GO IN THE ORDER, THEN AND THEN ARE YOU IN THE QUEUE TO TALK ABOUT IT AS WELL? OKAY, I'LL JUST GO IN THE ORDER OF THE Q, THEN COMMITTEE MEMBER BACHELOR. THANK YOU. CHAIR. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN RUI FOR UM THAT SO JUST FOR THE RECORD THAT WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS. UM IN REGARDS TO THIS. RESOLUTION FOR MONTHS NOW , UM I HAVE TRIED AND WORKED VERY DILIGENTLY TO COLLABORATE WITH COUNCILWOMAN RUBY AND THESE CONVERSATIONS THAT SHE SAID SHE HAS HAD UM, WITH RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. ETCETERA, ETCETERA , UM, FAILED TO GET ANY COMMUNICATION ON THAT FROM FROM HER OFFICE. WITH WHAT I KNOW ON THIS RESOLUTION, AND THE THINGS THAT I'VE WORKED ON IN THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION. ARE SOME OF OUR BEST CASE SCENARIOS RIGHT NOW.THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION IS VERY ACTIVE AND READY TO EXECUTE THESE THINGS, AS WELL AS THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WITH THE COMMITMENTS THAT THEY MADE. UM WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIRD PARTY SERVICES, UM AS I AM IN THE RESTAURANT BUSINESS, AND I UNDERSTAND THOSE SHE SAYS SHE CAN'T GET A HOLD OF THEM AND THEY WON'T RETURN HER CALLS. I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH ONE SPECIFIC ISSUE. FOR THREE WEEKS AND CAN'T GET A CALL BACK SO I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULTIES IN THAT SO MY RESOLUTION, I THINK IS THE BEST OPTION. BUT WE'RE NOT DISCUSSING MY RESOLUTION AT THIS MOMENT BECAUSE OF HER AMENDMENT, BUT I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS SAID FOR THE RECORD. AND WE CAN HAVE SOME MORE TALKING POINTS ON THAT. COMMITTEE MEMBER FOLLOWING THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, SO I JUST NEED TO UNDERSTAND AND EXPLAIN THIS AS I UNDERSTAND IT. YOUR AMENDMENT.
BEST SUBSTITUTION IS GOING TO REVERT BACK. FOR THE MOST PART TO WHAT IT WAS BEFORE. UM, THE COUNCILMAN BASHAR WANTS. RESOLUTION YES, THAT IS CORRECT . OKAY SUBSTANCE, SO, BASICALLY WHAT THIS DOES IS IT ALLOWS ASK THE RESTAURANTS, TOO. INQUIRE WITH THE CONSUMER WHETHER OR NOT THEY WANT PLASTIC WARE. YES I'M FACT I NEGLECTED TO ADD IN THERE. THAT WASN'T AN IMPORTANT DETAIL THAT, UH, AS IT HAS BEEN REPHRASED, IT IS NO LONGER REQUIRED BY THE CUSTOMER. IT CAN BE BY EITHER THE RESTAURANT EMPLOYEE OR THE CUSTOMER TO INITIATE THAT CONVERSATION, BECAUSE THAT WAS A CONCERN ALSO, AND THAT WAS CHANGED. OKAY, SO EITHER ONE SO IT COULD BE THE CONSUMER COULD BE THE RESTAURANT. WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE PLASTIC WARE OR NOT, BASICALLY RIGHT? YES, IT'S JUST AN ASKING WHERE TAKING, UM THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT OUT OF THE MIDDLE OF IT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT AGAIN? OKAY, THAT IS A. OKAY YEAH, IT'S A VERY GOOD QUESTION. AND SO IN THE THINGS THAT YOU HAVE TO SIGN AS YOU GET YOUR PERMIT FROM THE BOARD OF HEALTH. YOU WILL SIGN A DOCUMENT SAYING THAT YOU ARE AWARE OF THE NEW STANDARDS REGARDING THE DISTRIBUTION OF SINGLE USE, PLASTICS AND CONDIMENTS AND STRAWS AND ALL OF THAT. AND YOU AGREE TO ABIDE BY THOSE REQUIREMENTS. OKAY? AND BUT IT'S NOT. THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT IS NOT GOING TO TURN DOWN THEIR CERTIFICATION. CORRECT. OKAY, ALRIGHT. SO FOR THAT REASON I'M AM A GUEST VOTE ON THIS RESOLUTION. I'M SORRY ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN I RESPOND HERE? PLEASE GET IN THE QUEUE. I GOT A QUESTION. I WANT TO ASK REAL QUICK. JUST COULD YOU CLARIFY ALL THE AGENCIES THAT WILL BE INVOLVED IN THE IN THE POLICY AND THE AMENDMENT? JUST EVERY AGENCY. I KNOW YOU SAID THE BOARD OF HEALTH, BUT IS ANYBODY ELSE GONNA BE INVOLVED AT ALL? NO. TRAVIS. DO YOU WANT TO RESPOND TO THAT? JASON FELLA, ASSISTANT COUNTY MAN. DON'T WORRY, COUNCILWOMAN. THANK YOU. I. IF THE ACT OF QUESTION IS, ARE THERE OTHER AGENCIES WITH METRO INVOLVED? AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS PROPOSED ORDINANCE. NO, IT IS JUST THE BOARD OF HEALTH.
AND TIED TO THE CERTAIN FOOD CERTIFICATE. THAT THEY WOULD RECEIVE AS COMPLETING THE CLASS.
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YOU WOULD THEN SIGNED. SAYING YOU ARE AWARE OF THE REQUIREMENT TO TRAIN EMPLOYEES. WITH REGARD TO SINGLE USE PLASTICS IN EXCHANGE FOR THEIR CERTIFICATE. AND THEN JUST ANOTHER CLARIFYING QUESTION. I'M NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE ORDINANCE AS IT IS NOW IN OUR CODE OF ORDINANCES. ARE ALL OF THESE EXCEPTIONS CURRENTLY THERE OR DID YOU ADD SOMETHING OR TAKE SOMETHING AWAY? UH THE EXCEPTIONS HAVE NOT BEEN CHANGED FROM THE WAY IT WAS PREVIOUSLY. UNDERSTOOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH.COMMITTEE MEMBER PARKER. I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF A ORDINANCE. I THINK THE RESOLUTION IS MUCH MORE RATIONAL AND WON'T HAVE A MUCH GREATER BENEFIT. THE ORDINANCE DOESN'T EDUCATE THE PUBLIC. IT JUST LIKE GETS PEOPLE IN TROUBLE AND MANDATES AND SO I JUST FEEL LIKE IT WOULD BE BETTER. UM FOR EVEN LIKE A RECYCLING EDUCATION THAT WOULD COME TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT SO THAT IF PEOPLE DO GET UTENSILS, THEY DON'T THROW THEM AWAY. THERE'S A RECYCLING BIN THERE WHERE THEY CAN BE RECYCLED. OF COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS THE ARGUMENT THAT RECYCLING. UM CREATES JUST AS MUCH. POLLUTION HAS UM, IS THE PLASTIC SEGREGATION, BUT. IF THE ORDINANCE. I MEAN, I'M A LITTLE UPSET, BECAUSE IF THE ORDINANCE PASSES, THEN SOME OF US DON'T EVER GET TO VOTE ON THE RESOLUTION. AND FOURTHLY, I'M NOT SURE HOW YOU CAN ENFORCE A CONVERSATION. UM I DON'T KNOW.
THAT JUST SEEMS. KIND OF ODD, SO AND THEN I DO FIND STRIKING THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE ABOUT CREDIT CARDS. THAT'S A REALLY GOOD ARGUMENT FOR FOLKS TO KEEP CASH IN THEIR POCKETS AND GO BACK TO CASH. SO BUT, UM YEAH, I THINK I THINK THEIR RESOLUTION IS MUCH. MORE. RATIONAL. THEN THIS ORDINANCE, WHICH IS JUST KIND OF OVER THE TOP. THANK YOU. I'M SORRY TO COMMITTEE MEMBER MOBILE. I DID NOT KNOW YOU WERE TRYING TO GET IN THE QUEUE. WHAT'S UP? THANK YOU. I JUST HAD SOME QUESTIONS THEY'VE MADE AND I GUESS I WILL DIRECT THEM TO THE SPONSOR. ALRIGHT. OKAY THANK YOU. UM I DO KNOW NOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE A SAND, I GUESS. YOU'RE COMMITTING A SIGN SIGNATURE THAT YOU HAVE THE CLASS. OTHER CRITERIA OF THE CLASS. OKAY THAT WILL BE THAT WILL BE DEVELOPED IN THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. OKAY SOON. THERE'S TWO QUESTIONS ON THAT. YOU REFUSED TO SIGN IT. WITH YOU WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT NOT ISSUED THE PERMIT. AS THE ORDINANCES WRITTEN. COUNCIL MEMBER MOLEHILL. IT IS CONTINGENT UPON THE FOOD SERVICE MANAGER. SIGNING AN ATTESTING THAT THEY'RE FOOD SERVICE EMPLOYEES WILL BE EDUCATED. ON THE PROGRAM REGARDING SINGLE USE PLASTIC. AND THEN MAYBE I'LL ASK YOU THEN IF THERE IS AN ALLEGATION PLANNING 40 THAT WE WEREN'T EDUCATED, BUT AN AFFIDAVIT OR THE SIGNATURE WAS ATTESTED TO PURSUE. THE FALSE OF THE FOLLOWING THAT DOCUMENT, THE GOVERNMENT JASON OKAY? AND. IT'S AN ASTUTE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THAT UNDER ADVISEMENT AND RESPOND. HOWEVER IF THE QUESTION IS UM. WILL WILL FOLKS BE PURSUED. IN CIVIL LITIGATION REGARDING A FALSE SWEARING OVER THE ADDED STATION. OF THESE REQUIREMENTS. I DON'T I DON'T THINK THAT THE HEALTH BOARD CURRENTLY SITES FOR THAT, OR CONTEMPLATE THAT AND IT WOULD BE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO PURSUE ANY CRIMINAL CHARGE OF PERJURY OR FALSE SWEARING. BUT I JUST I DON'T SEE THAT CONTEMPLATED HERE. SO WHEN I GOT THE QUESTION IS. SO IT IS NOT
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JUST THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THERE THE OTHER AGENCIES TO HAVE TO ENFORCE THEM IF THEY WERE TRYING TO FIND OUT THE POLICE, NOT BECAUSE IT WOULD HURT ME BIG CRIMINAL IT WOULD AND IT MIGHT BE THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE . BUT I BELIEVE IT'S A FELONY, SO IT COULD BE THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. AND I BELIEVE YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOME SORT OF INVESTIGATION. THE COUNTY ATTORNEY DOESN'T DO INVESTIGATIONS THEY HAVE TO ALLOW ON ANOTHER BODY TO DO THE INVESTIGATION. SOLID BRING LEGAL ACTION, BUT YOU DON'T DO THE INVESTIGATION, SO THAT WOULD BRING IN POLICE. IS THAT CORRECT? ALL THE MORE REASON WHY I'D LIKE TO TAKE THIS QUESTIONNAIRE ADVISEMENT, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER OF MARBLE HILL. I . YOU KNOW, I'LL LEAVE IT THERE, SIR. SHOULD YOU LIKE MORE FOLLOW UP REGARDING ENFORCEMENT OVER THIS? I CAN PROVIDE THAT TO YOU.THERE'S A SANITATION PROCESS FOR THE BOARD OF HEALTH THAT GOES UM . YOU KNOW, THROUGH ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT THERE. AND I WOULD SUGGEST THAT THAT PROBABLY WOULD BE THE PLACE THAT THIS WINDS UP AS WELL. SHOULD SHOULD SOMETHING BE. IN OTHER WORDS, IT'S A SELF CONTAINED BOARD. THAT REGULATES ITSELF AND PROVIDES ITS OWN. UM ENFORCEMENT. SO IT IS LIKELY THAT A VIOLATION OF THIS CERTIFICATE WOULD BE HANDLED INTERNALLY BY THAT BOARD. BUT I DO APPRECIATE THE CONCERN AND CAN FOLLOW UP WITH YOU. OKAY, MAN. I APPRECIATE THAT TO MR TERRIFY CAN JUST DEVELOPED FURTHER REMAINS. I THINK THAT'S ONE ACTION THEY CAN BE TAKEN TO. CLEARLY IF YOU SWEAR BEFORE A GOVERNMENTAL BODY A ALSO ANOTHER ACTION CAN BE TAKEN. I BELIEVE I DON'T THINK IT'S EXCLUSIVE TO ASSEMBLE MEMORY. I THINK IT CAN BE DONE THAT WAY. AND SO THERE IS ANOTHER THING. I DON'T KNOW IF POLICE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH THAT IS THROUGH THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY. THERE'S SOME THINGS THAT JUST SEEM TO BE MAY NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST FURTHER ILLUMINATION OR DISCUSSION. AND IT SEEMS LIKE WE'VE SORT OF SAID HEY, IT'S THE BOARD OF HEALTH WHEN IN FACT, IT MAY BE OTHER AGENCIES, INCLUDING THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WHO MAY BE INVOLVED AND BECAUSE OF THAT. UH, YOU KNOW, I'M. I'D LIKE TO SEE MORE DISCUSSION AND LEARN MORE BEFORE ITEM. PROCEED AHEAD. I CAN CERTAINLY HEAR MORE DISCUSSION TODAY. BUT BEFORE THIS ITEM MOVES FORWARD ON THIS COMMITTEE, I WOULD FEEL I WOULD SO MUCH MORE COMFORTABLE GETTING THOSE ANSWERS. SO THAT'S UH THANK YOU, MR CHAIR FOR INDULGING ME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. NOW THE SPONSOR WANTS TO SAY SOMETHING. I WANT TO JUST FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT WE JUST HEARD. SO WE KNOW THAT THE BOARD OF HEALTH IS INVOLVED. IT SOUNDS LIKE PUBLIC HEALTH WILL BE INVOLVED BECAUSE THEY HAVE TO PROVIDE A TRAINING AND THEN POTENTIALLY THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND POLICE AS WELL. SO THERE ARE OTHER AGENCIES INVOLVED. POTENTIALLY YES, I GUESS THERE WOULD BE THE BOARD OF HEALTH THE EXPECTATION THAT THEY HAVE THAT THEY WILL PROVIDE ADDITIONAL TRAINING. WITH THOSE WHO ARE FOUND TO BE IN VIOLATION. AND IT'S JUST LARGELY GOING TO BE AN EDUCATIONAL EFFORT AT THAT POINT. THE VALUE IN HAVING IT AS AN ORDINANCE IS THAT IT IS MORE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO BE FOLLOWED BECAUSE IT IS A LAW VERSUS THE RESOLUTION, WHICH IS A SUGGESTION. AND THE THESE THINGS THAT WE DO TO REDUCE OUR USE OF SINGLE USE PLASTICS AND DO THESE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO DO. TO PROTECT OUR ENVIRONMENT FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS. WE'VE KNOWN ABOUT THESE THINGS FOR DECADES NOW, AND WE'RE NOT DOING THEM. AND IT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO IS A FORCE OF LAW CAN MAKE PEOPLE DO THAT. THEY'VE HAD PLENTY OF GOOD ADVICE AND THEY HAVEN'T FOLLOWED IT. THANK YOU BACK TO THE Q, BUT I JUST WANT TO ADD WHAT I DID APPRECIATE ABOUT THE RESOLUTION. WAS THIS THIS EDUCATION COMPONENT? WE HAVE A FOOD PANTRY IN OUR DISTRICT. THAT HAS AN ISSUE WITH PEOPLE TAKING FOOD, SINGLE USE PLASTICS, AND THEN IT GETS LEFT OUT IN THE STREETS. IS THAT THAT ON THE FOOD PANTRY OR IS THAT ON THE PEOPLE WHO LEAVE IT OUT IN THE STREETS, SO I WISH THERE WAS A WAY TO TAKE THIS EDUCATION PIECE AND REALLY FUSE IT WITH THE CONCEPT OF MAKING SURE THAT THE RESTAURANTS ARE PREPARED AND AWARE. TO ASK THAT QUESTION OR LET PEOPLE ASK THEM THIS QUESTION LIKE WE COULD BRING THE TWO TOGETHER. COMMITTEE MEMBER BASHAR THANK YOU. CHAIR. UM THANK YOU, EVERYBODY FOR THE GOOD QUESTIONS SO I'VE. A COUPLE OF THINGS. I'VE MADE SOME NOTES ON IT. IS THAT OKAY? THAT JUST TAKES TIME FOR THAT? MY FIRST THING IS WHO IN THIS ROOM HAS EVER TAKEN A FOOD CERTIFICATION CERTIFICATE TEST? OKAY SO I KNOW WHAT IT ENTAILS. AND I KNOW IF YOU FAIL
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A SECTION, YOU FAIL THE ENTIRE CERTIFICATION. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M GONNA ASK SOME QUESTIONS THAT I ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS TO WHERE'S THE TEST GOING TO BE TAKEN? FOR THE CERTAIN WHO'S GOING TO BUILD THE PROGRAM ON THE BACK END FOR THE BOARD OF HEALTH. UM AND IF YOU FAIL THAT PORTION OF THE TEST WILL YOU STILL BE ABLE TO GET THE CERTIFICATION FOR YOUR PLACE OF EMPLOYMENT IN THE RESTAURANT. AND THEN TO THAT. WHO'S PAYING FOR THE TEST BECAUSE 99% OF THE TIME THE RESTAURANTS ARE ALREADY PAYING FOR THAT CERTIFICATION. FOR THEIR STAFF. CURRENTLY. SO THAT'S ANOTHER EXPENSE THAT THEY'RE ALREADY SPENDING MONEY ON. UM AGAIN WITH EXPERIENCE AND WITH TALKING TO HUNDREDS OF RESTAURANTS IN THE RESTAURANT ASSOCIATION. WE ARE ALREADY DOING THE WORK TO MITIGATE THE COST AND MITIGATE THE EXPOSURE OF PLASTICS. IN AND OUT OF OUR RESTAURANTS. WITH THAT BEING SAID. I DON'T APPRECIATE THE EXEMPTIONS BECAUSE IF YOU'RE GOING TO SINGLE OUT RESTAURANTS WE SHOULD BE SINGLING OUT FOOD TRUCKS. WE SHOULD BE SINGLING OUT THE SELF SERVICE. WE SHOULD BE SINGLING OUT. UM THE CHARITIES AND THE AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR I AM NOT AGAINST THE ENVIRONMENT. I'M AGAINST THE MANDATES THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PUT ON. BUSINESSES. I AM IN SUPPORT FOR MY RESOLUTION AND THE EDUCATIONAL PORTION TO BE SUSTAINABLE AND REDUCING THE USE OF PLASTICS. I DO NOT SUPPORT THE MANDATES THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ADD ON. OUR CITY. AND OUR BUSINESSES WITH THE ADDITIONAL EXPOSURE THAT WE ARE GOING TO SPEND. RESOURCES TO BUILD A NEW PROGRAM TO HIRE MORE ENFORCEMENT TO SO ON AND SO FORTH THAT WE ALREADY AGAIN ARE LACKING IN OUR COMMUNITY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ASKED FOR YOUR NO VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT BY SUBSTITUTION BY COUNCILMAN RUI AND WE PROCEED AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE RESOLUTION THAT I HAVE PREPARED.THANK YOU. ANOTHER QUESTION FOR THE SPONSORS. SO I SEE THE TRAINING IS MENTIONED TOWARDS THE END. IS THIS THE TRAINING THAT YOU SAID THAT PUBLIC HEALTH WOULD NEED TO WORK ON? YES AND BECAUSE IT'S UH, DOESN'T EVEN START TAKING PLACE FOR SIX MONTHS. THERE IS TIME TO GET THIS TOGETHER AND AS COUNSEL BAT, SEAN NOTED, THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCUSSING SIGNAGE , SO THE EDUCATIONAL COMPONENT OF IT CAN START. VERY QUICKLY. THANK YOU. COMMITTEE MEMBER HUDSON. THANK YOU. CHAIR. UM INITIALLY, UH, SIGNED INTO THE QUEUE. TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION. UH, TO THE ANSWER. OF COUNCILWOMAN FOWLER'S QUESTION. UM BUT IN THE IN THE COURSE OF THE DISCUSSION HERE. SOME OF THAT HAS BEEN ANSWERED, BUT THE QUESTION WAS IF A RESTAURANT DOES NOT PROVIDE THE EDUCATION OR ATTEST TO THE UM REQUIREMENTS OF THE ORDINANCE.
WILL THAT PREVENT THEM FROM GETTING THEIR CERTIFICATION? AND THE SPONSOR ANSWERED. NO THEY STILL GET THEIR CERTIFICATION. BUT THAT IS NOT HOW I READ THE SUBSECTION C ENFORCEMENT SECTION OF THIS ORDINANCE. I'LL JUST READ IT INTO THE RECORD HERE. AT THE CONCLUSION OF THIS TRAINING COURSE, FOOD SERVICE MANAGER CELL SHALL SIGN A FORM PROVIDED BY THE BOARD OF HEALTH ATTESTING THAT THEIR FOOD EMPLOYEES WILL BE EDUCATED ON THE REQUIREMENTS OF THIS SECTION. BEFORE RECEIVING THE CERTIFICATION. THERE SEEMS TO BE AN IF THEN STATEMENT TO ME, EITHER YOU SUBSCRIBE TO THE. AND THE TEST TO THIS ORDINANCE OR YOU DON'T GET YOUR CERTIFICATION. AND THE FACT THAT WE ARE SITTING HERE TALKING ABOUT THE BOARD OF HEALTH. L M P. D. COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY COUNTY ATTORNEY OVER A PLASTIC FORK. SEEMS RIDICULOUS TO ME. I WOULD ENCOURAGE A NO VOTE ON THIS. UM SUBSTITUTION. THANK YOU. MANY MEMBER FOLLOW. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND SO AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THAT. THE EDUCATION PIECES HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR, UM BUT JASON IS TALKING ABOUT AND THE ANSWER TO COUNSELING MELVILLE HILLS QUESTION. ON WHAT. EXACTLY WOULD WOULD TAKE PLACE, SO I MOVED TO TABLE. THIS SUBSTITUTION BY MEN ARE AMENDED BY SUBSTITUTION,
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PLEASE. I'M SORRY. IT'S JUST ME, THE CLERK OLIVIA, CAN YOU ALL ABOUT THAT, OR I WAS ABOUT TO MAN. AND THEN YOU DUMPED INTO YOU CAN GO AHEAD. OKAY SO THIS IS SORT OF WHERE THE COURT WHICH CANNOT TABLE INDIA MILLION WE CAN TABLE THE ITEM AND THE AMENDMENT WILL FALL AWAY, SITTING IN THEIR PROPOSED. OKAY, THEN I MOVED TO TABLE THAT THE WHOLE PIECE THE LEGISLATION.SECOND. YEP. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING THE ITEM SAY I HIGH ANY OPPOSED. WE CAN DO A ROLL CALL VOTE.
THIS IS A VOTE TO TABLE. THE ITEM VOTE. THE TABLE DIED. WE'RE GONNA VOTE ON THIS BEFORE 2024.
IT WILL NEVER HEAL. YES. VOTING IS CLOSING. ALL RIGHT, THIS THING IS TABLE. WE DO HAVE TO HAVE ACTION BEFORE NOVEMBER OR BY NOVEMBER, SO OR IT DIES ON ITS OWN. ALL RIGHT, NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY SO WE ARE ADJOURNED. I HOPE FOLKS CAN TALK AND WORK THAT OUT.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.