[00:04:02] YEAH. [00:06:13] OKAY? YEAH. START SAYING THAT CHAIRWOMAN WILL BE HERE SHORTLY. [00:10:35] MHM. WE KNOW MORE. ONE OF THEM. I RECALL THAT WE HAD ALREADY BEEN OUT. JUST DOWNSTAIRS, BEEN. PLENTY OF BODIES. I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING LATE ARE WE GOT STUCK ON THE ELEVATOR, SO I'M GETTING 30 MINUTES. NO 30 SECONDS AND, UH, I'M ALL CONFUSED BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE'RE GOING TO GET ONTO THIS. 30 SECONDS AND IT'LL START. [Call to Order] COUNCILWOMAN BARBARA SHANKLIN. AND THIS IS THE COMMUNITY FAIRS, EQUITY HEALTH IN THE EDUCATION COMMITTEE. UM MY VICE CHAIR IS NOT HERE TODAY. HE HAS AN EXCUSE ABSENCE. AND WITH US TODAY I [Roll Call] HAVE COUNCILMAN COREY ARTHUR COUNCILWOMAN BETSY RUI. COUNCILMAN DANCING SO WE DO HAVE A CORN. ROUND IT OFF FIRST. YEAH. SO WE DO HAVE A CORN. UH, TODAY WE ONLY HAVE SPECIAL [Special Discussion] DISCUSSIONS, BUT BEFORE WE GET INTO THE SPECIAL DISCUSSION, I HAD THREE PEOPLE THAT WANTED TO SPEAK. BUT THEY WERE SPEAKING IN BEHALF OF HOUSING AUTHORITY, SO I'M GONNA LET THEM SPEAK FIRST, AND THEN I WILL. GET OUR GUEST SPEAKER OF SO ARE YOU, DAVID SMITH. THANK YOU, SIR. YOU WANT TO COME TO THE POLLING AND YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY YOURSELF CLERK? AND. GOOD DAY TO EVERYBODY. I'M DAVID SMITH. I'M A MEMBER OF DONNA PURPOSES DISTRICT OF THE WRESTLE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. LOUIS COLEMAN IS MY UNCLE, ROBERT ARTHUR B. SMITH IS ALSO ONE OF MY FAMILY MEMBERS. OKAY THE REASON THAT I'M HERE IS BECAUSE I SEE THE PROBLEMS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE KIDS WITH THE VIOLENCE WITH THE HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW, WITH HOUSING AND ALL. I SEE THESE PROBLEMS. YOU KNOW, IT'S NOT FAR THAT WE HAVE PROGRAMS THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN PLACE, BUT THEY'RE NOT AS LONG LESS THAN OUR PERMANENT AS THEY SHOULD BE . THE PEOPLE THAT'S HOMELESS. I DO. TAKE THE TIME AND TALK TO A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE. THEY DON'T [00:15:01] WANT TO BE SEPARATED FROM THE ONES THAT THEY DIDN'T CONSIDER THEIR FAMILIES NOW. THEY DIDN'T GET THEIR BOND FROM BEING INDUSTRIES WHERE THEY DIDN'T STRUGGLED OUT HERE ON THE STREETS ABOUT HIMSELF AND HIS GROUPS OF EACH OTHER. YOU KNOW, THEY DO NEED THE HELP. EVERYBODY IN THIS CITY NEEDS HELP. YOU KNOW? IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOME KIND OF PLAN TO WHERE WE REALLY GET THEM TO GET THE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES TOGETHER, WE START HOLDING PARENTS ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL. FOR WHAT THEIR KIDS AND STUFF IS OUT THERE DOING IT TAKES ALL OF US. LIKE I TOLD MR ANDREW, IT TAKES ALL OF US AS A COMMUNITY AS THIS CITY TO MAKE THIS WORK. YOU KNOW FOR Y'ALL TO BE UP SITTING ON THE SEIZURE. I'LL SEE THE PROBLEMS THAT WE HAVE TO. YOU'RE TRYING YOUR BEST TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND WE APPRECIATE IT REALLY DO YOU KNOW, BUT ONE THING I WILL SAY IF IT'S ANYONE HURT VIDEOS FROM HOUSING AUTHORITY TO SPEAK TO MISS TAMMY HAWK ISN'T GONNA PURPOSE ABOUT THIS, MISS BARBARA SHAKE. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER MY NAME. WE SPOKE AS WELL ABOUT THE ISSUES THAT I HAD WITH HOUSING AUTHORITY. MRS STRONG, KATHY HEAD, ALL OF THEM THEY ARE ALLOWED TO LIE. THEY'RE ALLOWED TO USE DISCRIMINATION. THEY ALLOWED TO SAY WHO CAN BE ON THE LIST AND WHO CAN'T WHEN YOU COME IN THERE AND MAKE COMPLAINTS. THEY CALLED THE POLICE ON YOU. AND HAVE YOU ESCORTED OUT. EVEN THOUGH YOU'RE NOT BREAKING POLICY, YOU'RE NOT BREAKING LAW. IT HAPPENED TO ME . CARL WHEN FISHER WAS IN OFFICE ARE CALLING GREEN BURGERS IN THE OFFICE. I'VE LIVED FOR ALL OF YOUR MESSAGES ABOUT THESE SITUATIONS, EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT IN YOUR DISTRICT. I'M ON DISABILITY. AND I GET TALKED TO ABOUT MRS STRONG. MISS CATHY HEAD, THE OTHER DIRECTOR, MR MR HAWKINS AND, UM, GOT THEIR NAMES. YOU KNOW, AND I FEEL LIKE THAT WHEN WE AS THE AS THE CITIZENS AND THE PEOPLE COME TO OUR LEGISLATORS ARE COMMUNITY LEADERS OR WHATEVER WE HAVE THESE TYPES OF COMPLAINTS. THAT SHOULD BE SOMETHING DONE. IT SHOULDN'T BE THAT. WELL, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK INTO IT. THEY TELL WHATEVER LAST THEY WANTED NOTHING TO DO IT. YOU KNOW THAT'S NOT FOR I'VE HAD ISSUES UP AT THE COURTHOUSE OF SHERIFF'S NUMBER, STOPPING ME IN THE CHILD SUPPORT CLERK OFFICE JUST FROM GETTING NAMES. THE FELLOW COMPLAINT DAVE HIT THE BUTTON LYING AND SAYING THEY GOT ONCE FOR ME. I'M NOT ALLOWED IN THERE. MISS DONALD PURVIS WAS ON THE PHONE WITH THAT HAPPENED. THEY WENT DOWN TO THE COURTROOM 203 AND GOT MY PERSONAL INFORMATION WHEN NO CRIME HAD BEEN COMMITTED, BUT NOBODY DOES NOTHING ABOUT THE SHELLS THAT'S INVOLVED. YOU KNOW, I'M JUST ASKING AS A MEMBER OF THIS CITY, NOT JUST AS A COMMUNITY. CAN WE PLEASE GET SOME PROGRAMS AND THINGS GOING. THIS HAPPENED. PEOPLE LIKE ME WHO'S DISABLED. LET'S GET SOME STORE HEALTH NEEDS PARENTS NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THEIR CHILDREN. WE KNOW WHAT OUR KIDS IS DOING OUT HERE. THE FIRST THING YOU HEAR IS MY BABY WAS A GOOD BABY WHEN THEIR CHILD IS ON THE GROUND DEAD. THEY WANT TO MAKE EXCUSES OF WHAT THEM KIDS WAS. THAT WASN'T DOING WHAT THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. WE SEE THIS. WE SEE THESE MURDERS AND STUFF EVERYDAY PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH GUNS THAT THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE OWNED THEM EXTENDED CLIPS. EVERYTHING ON THEM. WHY DO YOU NEED AN A R A 2 TO 3 OR ANYTHING JUST TO WALK AROUND OUR CITY, AND WE'RE NOT A DALLAS WE'RE NOT CHICAGO, WHERE NONE OF THAT. THIS IS A PEACEFUL CITY. STORY HOLDING PEOPLE ACCOUNTABLE. DIGGING COAL WITH THESE GUNS AND STUFF. HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE. STOP SLAPPING THEM ON THE RISK LETTING THEM GO BY THE PERSON GET CAUGHT WITH DRUGS, DRIVING WITH A BAD RECORD CHILD SUPPORT SOMETHING PETTY. WE GOTTA SIT IN THAT JAIL. I GO TO PRISON, BUT THE CHILD MOLESTERS, PEDOPHILES, THE ONES WHOSE AFTER COMMITTING CRIMES, THEY GET A SLAP ON THE WRIST. H I P LOW, BUT SIDES. NOBODY REALLY HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE IS THE ONES WHO GOT THE PETTY CRIMES THIS FILLING UP IN JAIL. WE GOT OFFICERS WORKING THE STREETS AND JAILS THAT'S JUST DISRESPECTFUL. WHO SHOULD NOT BE ON THE FORCE. IF YOU'RE RACE, YOUR MONEY YOURS. THANK YOU. YOU HAVE POWER THAT BADGE AND GUN MAKE YOU SOMETHING. NO, IT DOES NOT. THE PEOPLE MAKE YOU AND WE'RE ASKING YOU ALL TO PLEASE START LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITIES. YEAH I UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING YOU'RE SAYING, BUT I KNOW YOUR COUNCIL PERSON IS DOMINANT PERSON WORKING WITH WORKING WITH YOU. OKAY, WELL, MAYBE WE CAN GET HER. THANK Y'ALL. I JUST WANTED TO FIND THIS STUFF TO YOUR ATTENTION THAT WE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE ONCE SPEAK, AND I'M I'M DOING. I WAS REALLY I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR HEARING ME OUT. THANK YOU ALL FOR HOPEFULLY COMING TOGETHER WITH THE COMMUNITIES AND MAYBE WE CAN BUILD SOMETHING TOGETHER. MISS PURPOSE THEM HAS MY NUMBER WORKED WITH DAVID JAMES BEFORE AND I WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH Y'ALL BEFORE. YES MA'AM, AND I ENJOYED EVERY SECOND OF WORKING WITH YOU. I LOVE MY CITY. I THANK YOU ALL FOR SITTING ON THE SEATS. I REALLY DO. THANK YOU FOR COMING DOWN AND EXPRESSING YOUR CONCERNS. THIS IS WHAT WE'RE HERE FOR INSIDE. TALK TO YOU LATER. OKAY. THANK YOU. I ALSO WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN ANDREW OWENS CAME IN. WOW. MR. SMITH WAS SPEAKING. UM IT'S ONE OF YOUR LADIES. I KNOW. I HAD A CALL FROM ONE OF THE LATEST IN THAT THEY NEEDED TO SPEAK BEFORE YOU. CAN YOU COME ON UP TO THE PODIUM AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE OFFICE? THIS IS ABOUT. HOUSING OKAY? CHRISTINA MITCHELL. I LIVE AT LORD'S HALL. I'M SORRY. I DIDN'T HEAR YOU. MY [00:20:04] NAME'S CHRISTINA MITCHELL. LORD TALK TO YOU. YEAH MIKE DOWN WHERE YOU CAN HEAR. OKAY, UM WE HAVE ISSUES THERE. WHERE, UM. YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING FIXED. AND IT'S DIRTY AND I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES IN MY APARTMENT. I HAD IT WHERE I'M ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND THEIR MAIN PLUMBING ON OUT. GET BACK TO AND IN THE BATHROOM FROM THE TOILET AND THE BATHTUB SEWAGE COMES UP. AND UM, FLOODED MY BATHROOM, MY CLOSET, MY BEDROOM AND DOWN MY HALLWAY LIKE SIX INCHES DEEP. WHICH WAS JUST LIKE, UM POOP AND TOILET PAPER. JUST FIELD AND WE AND I HAVE SOME NASTY CARPET IN THERE. AND IT TOOK ME THEY NEVER CAME IN AND DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT. IT TOOK ME SEVEN MONTHS TO GET THAT CARPET PULLED UP AND THEY JUST WANTED TO CARPET CLEAN IT AFTER THEY'D LET IT SIT LIKE THAT. THAT MANY MONTHS AND THE I WAS JUST LIKE THERE'S JUST NO WAY AND I HAD EVEN GET THEM TO COME INTO MY APARTMENT. BESIDES GOING TO THE OFFICE AND SPEAKING AND GOING TO THE MAINTENANCE SUPERVISOR AND SPEAKING TO THEM. EVENTUALLY HAD TO GO TO THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. THEY CAME OUT KEPT GIVING HIM A TIMELINE. THEY DIDN'T FIX ANYTHING. I HAD TO GO TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT. THEY DID THE SAME KEPT GIVING HIM THE TIMELINE. I FINALLY HAD TO GO TO THE MAYOR'S OFFICE BECAUSE I WAS LIVING ON MY COUCH. BECAUSE I COULDN'T GO IN THAT BEDROOM TO SLEEP. I WAS SUPPOSED TO HAVE A SURGERY ON MY ARM AND JANUARY AND HAVE A TOTAL ROUTE REVERSAL TO REPLACEMENT AND WHATNOT. AND I COULDN'T DO THAT BECAUSE I COULDN'T COME HOME AND HAVE SOME WORK ACTUALLY LAY YOU KNOW, I'VE STILL JUST ABOUT TO HAVE IT IN ABOUT TWO WEEKS, AND IF IT WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN FOR THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, CALLING THEM THEY NEVER WOULD HAVE FIXED IT. IT TOOK THAT LONG JUST TO GET THAT SEWAGE. CARPET OUT. AND THAT'S JUST COMPLETELY UNLIVABLE. THERE'S SPOTS AND. ALL OVER THE PLACE WHERE THERE'S MODE, WHETHER I AND A LOT OF PLACES WHERE YOU SEE TILES THAT HAVE MOLD GROWING ON AND THEY JUST REPLACED THE TILES, THEY DON'T FIX THE PROBLEM. THEY COME IN, AND THEY CLEAN DOING, YOU KNOW, VACUUM OR MOP, BUT THEY DON'T THINK ANYTHING ELSE IS A SECTION EIGHT APARTMENT HOUSING AUTHORITY HOUSING AUTHORITY. YEAH OKAY. IT'S ON EASTERN PARKWAY, RIGHT? I THINK IT'S WHAT LORD LORD SAW. THERE'S SOME THERE'S. IT'S INFESTED WITH MICE AND EVEN THE GUY THAT COMES IN THAT DOES THE THAT COMES FROM BUGS AND MICE. HE HAD TOLD ME THAT ONE OF MY AIR CONDITIONERS WAS INFESTED WITH MICE, AND THEY NEEDED TO REPLACE IT. AND I NEVER COULD GET THEM TO DO THAT. THEY FINALLY CAME, PULLED IT OUT AND VACUUMED IT AND PUT IT BACK IN, BUT THEY WOULDN'T REPLACE IT . IT WAS FULL OF MOUSE POOP IN THERE, YOU KNOW, AND I'M BREATHING THAT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PROBLEM IS TO GET ANYTHING FIXED. BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW COME YOU HAVE TO GO TO SUCH EXTREME MEASURES JUST TO GET YOU KNOW SOMETHING? THAT'S HAZARD IS FIXED. HAVE A MANAGEMENT COMPANY ON COMPANY THAT COMES IN AND MANAGED JUST TWO BUILDING? NO, IT'S JUST OUR MANAGER, AN ARM, JUST ONE PERSON OR MANAGER. I HAD EVEN GONE ABOVE HER AND WENT TO HER. UM. I CAME TOGETHER LIKE YOU'RE SAYING THAT'S ABOVE HER AND CALLED THEIR OWN BUDGET IN AS WELL AS LONG AS ALL THOSE OTHER PLACES THE MAYOR'S OFFICE WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT EVER GOT HIM TO FIX ANYTHING. AND OUR MANAGER DOES NOT WANT TO HEAR. ABOUT ANY PROBLEMS. OKAY IT'S YOU KNOW, IF SO, THEN SHE DOES NOT LIKE YOU. I DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER WE DON'T KNOW HOW TO GET ANYTHING FIXED IN OUR BUILDING. WE DON'T HAVE ANY AVENUES TO GET ANYTHING FIXED. AND LOOK INTO THAT. ANYONE OVER HERE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS THEY WANT ASKED HER. IT'S UNBELIEVABLE. MUMBAI QUESTION. CAN YOU GET SOME NAMES OF THE BUILDING MANAGER? IT'S MISS PERKINS PERKINS. THANK YOU. YES, BABY. YEAH. SHARON PARKINS. OKAY. THANK YOU. WELL, WE'RE GONNA LOOK INTO IT, AND IT'S WITH THE HOUSE AND THE PARTY. SO SANKARA HE SAID. HER NAME IS ALSO ANKLE. THE HEAD LADY. YES, OKAY. GOOD. I STILL DON'T KNOW THE NAME OF. THE APARTMENT. LORD'S HOME LORDS , ALL LORDS. THANK YOU USED TO BE THE HOSPITALS. UH, NEXT DOOR TO THE HOSPITAL. IT WAS A NURSING THING, AND THEY CHANGED IT INTO APARTMENTS BUILT R AND D [00:25:04] E S YES. YEAH YEAH. L O U R D E S SO EASTERN PARKWAY. YEAH. 735 EASTERN PARKWAY. YEAH I HAD ANOTHER LADY THAT CALLED ME ABOUT THE SAME APARTMENT, BUT I THINK SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING HIM. SHE DID NOT WANT COME AND SPEAK BECAUSE SHE WAS IN THE PROCESS OF MOVING. OKAY THANK YOU, MA'AM. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. I APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME TO COME DOWN HERE AND TALK TO US ABOUT IT AND WE WILL BE LOOKING INTO IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THOUGHT I HAD THREE SPEAKERS, BUT I GUESS I JUST ONLY TWO SHOWED UP. BUT. OH, OKAY, SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO SPEAK OKAY. ARE YOU IN THE SAME APARTMENT IN THE SAME ONE? OKAY. WELL ONE OF US LOOKING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH THE MANAGER DOWN THERE. OKAY? THE NEXT PERSON WE HAVE IS MR RIGHT, ROBERT KERSHAW. HE'S GONE. WE CALLED ENFORCEMENT IN HIS, UH WE DON'T TALK ABOUT CODE SELLER. WHAT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT AS FAR AS COLD BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A LOT OF PLANTS. COMPLAINTS ABOUT NO INSPECTIONS, AND WHEN YOU GUYS DO COME TO INSPECT THAT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY GO INTO THE APARTMENTS AND THIS IS WHAT WE WANT TO KNOW. AND I THINK IT'S ON RIVER PARK RIVER REPORT. THEY WERE TELLING US THAT INSPECTORS KNOW COMING IN. THEY JUST COME TO THE BUILDING AND THEY JUST OKAY TO BUILD IT, AND WE DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN. WE WANT TO SEE IF YOU GUYS AND INSPECTING THE BUILDINGS. THE APARTMENTS ARE THE ONES THAT THEY GOT COMPLAINTS. YES ROBERT KIRK STORE FOR DIRECTOR OF CODES AND REGULATIONS. UH I WILL SAY ON ON THAT POINT UH, ANY TIME WE GET A COMPLAINT, WE WILL. WE WILL INSPECT AND WE GET UNITS. IF IT'S A WHOLE COMPLEX. USUALLY WE GET THE TENANT AND INDIVIDUAL SPOT AND IF THEY CALL IT IN THROUGH METRO CALL OR INFORMED, THEY CONTACT COUNSEL PEOPLE THEY CALL MY OFFICE. WE ALWAYS GIVE THAT CONTACT INFORMATION OR THE UNIT NUMBER TWO. THE INSPECTOR. THEY GET ASSIGNED THE CASE. THEY GO OUT, THEY'LL KNOCK ON THE DOOR. LEAVE A CALL CARD. TRY TO GET IN. BECAUSE WE CAN'T JUST GO IN AND UNIT. I MEAN, SOMEONE'S GOING TO HAVE TO LET US IN THAT TENANTS GOING TO LET US IN TO GO INSPECT BUT ON THOSE PROCESSES, I MEAN, I JUST WANT TO GO BACK IN OUR CODES AND RAGS AND OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DIVISION. WE DO DIFFERENT THINGS. WE ENFORCE THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. SO ANY COMPLAINT ON ANY PROPERTY WE WILL GO OUT AND INSPECT. THEN WE ALSO HAVE A SECTION IN THERE. CERTAIN NUMBER OF INSPECTORS 12 INSPECTORS THAT ARE ASSIGNED AND TO ENTER LOCAL AGREEMENT. WE DO THE SECTION EIGHT INSPECTIONS. FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY ON THOSE SECTION EIGHT UNITS, AND WE MAKE AN INITIAL AND AN ANNUAL INSPECTION. SOMETIMES IT'S OVER A YEAR, DEPENDING ON HOW THEY'RE BEING SCHEDULED, SCHEDULED OUT FROM THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND WE GO AND INSPECT THEM. SO YOU KNOW, WE'RE IN THOSE UNITS. BASICALLY ONCE A YEAR. AH! YOU KNOW, AND A LOT OF STUFF CAN CAN HAPPEN. BUT IF THERE IS A COMPLAINT THAT USUALLY GOES TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, THEY WILL NOTIFY US AND SCHEDULE COMPLAINT INSPECTION. AH IF WE GET THE CALL WILL ALSO GO BACK OUT AND NOTICE THAT IT'S A SECTION EIGHT AND THEN WE WILL ADDRESS IT THROUGH THROUGH SECTION EIGHT TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS THERE. TO TRY TO GET EVERYTHING CORRECTED. SO I MEAN, THAT'S IN A NUTSHELL. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING ON HOUSING AUTHORITY BUILDINGS. WE DON'T GO ON THEIR PROPERTIES UNLESS THERE. THEY FALL INTO THE GENERAL PROPERTY MAINTENANCE WHERE WE'RE NOT MAKING SCHEDULED AT REGULAR SCHEDULED INSPECTIONS OF THOSE BUILDINGS THE SAME AS WE DON'T DO FOR REGULAR APARTMENT COMPLEXES. AS YOU ALL KNOW THE RENTAL REGISTRY AS SOON AS THAT WE GET IT UP AND RUNNING. WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY TRYING TO GET INTO IT. IT'S A LITTLE ROUGH TIMES RIGHT NOW HIRING STAFF AND GETTING IN PLACE BUT EVERYTHING WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH IT AND HOPEFULLY LATER THIS YEAR WILL BE YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTED THERE AND STARTING THOSE 10% OF THOSE INSPECTIONS IN THOSE AREAS SO THAT THAT SHOULD HELP OUT SOME ON THE REGULAR PROPERTIES, BUT THAT'S NOT ADDRESSING THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTIES. HOW MANY HOUSES AUTHORITY INSPECTORS TO YOUR HEALTH. WE HAVE 12 ASSIGNED TO DOING SECTION EIGHT INSPECTIONS THAT THEY PAY US. THEY COVER THE COST OF THOSE FOR THAT PROGRAM. WELL YOU KNOW, AS I WAS GOING OVER THE RIVER PORTS AND I LOOKED AT IT AND ALL THE PEOPLE WERE SAYING THEY WEREN'T GETTING EXPECTED AND IT FALLS BACK ON THE GOVERNMENT THAT WE ARE NOT DOING OUR JOB. AND I WAS [00:30:01] WONDERING WHY. THEY CAN'T HARDER OWN INSPECTORS. INSTEAD OF DEPENDING ON METRO COUNCILS, GOVERNMENTS INSPECTORS THAT RIVER PORTS LANDINGS. I'VE BELIEVE THAT DEVELOPMENT IS A PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT THAT WAS ONLY 4 TO 5 YEARS OLD RIGHT MIX OF. OF DIFFERENT DOCUMENTS, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THERE ARE SOME SECTION EIGHT. THERE'S YOU KNOW, JUST GENERAL. AH! YOU KNOW TENANTS THERE AND WERE ONLY INVOLVED ON THE TENANT. BUT IF ANYBODY COMPLAINED, CALLED IT IN, WE WOULD WE WOULD BE THERE AND THEN AH, BY THE THEY DON'T REGISTRY. IF IT'S IN THOSE RENTAL TENURE AREAS WE WOULD BE THEY MIGHT FALL IN, YOU KNOW, A CERTAIN YEAR THAT 10% OF THOSE RANDOM INSPECTIONS. BUT I WILL. WE WILL GO OUT. IF WE ARE CALLED . WE DID DO SOME RESEARCH ON SOME OF THOSE. WE DIDN'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF COMPLAINTS THAT WERE CALLED INTO METRO CALL ON THOSE SPECIFIC UNITS. WE'VE SINCE BEEN BACK OUT. I KNOW ONE OF THE AH INDIVIDUALS THAT SPOKE CLASS AT THE LAST MEETING DIDN'T MEET WITH HER AFTERWARDS, AND WE HAVE BEEN OUT THERE IN THE LANDLORD HAS BEEN ADDRESSING. THEY'VE BEEN REPAIRING A WALL TAKING STUFF OUT AND WORK INTO IT, AND WE HAVE A FOLLOW UP INSPECTION COMING UP. HERE. BUT . NEXT WEEK. WE SEE YOU'RE SAYING IS YOU ONLY INSPECT HOUSING AUTHORITY APARTMENT SO WE DON'T INSPECT HOUSING AUTHORITY TO INSPECT SECTION EIGHT UNITS HAD SEXUAL HOUSES OR ANY PRIVATE BUT SEXUAL LATEST PART OF HOUSING AUTHORITY. RIGHT? THAT PROGRAM IS RUN THROUGH HOUSING. YES ONLY ONE SHOWER, INSPECT. CORRECT SPECT. AH! RIVER PORTS, LAND AND THE PROPERTY. THE ONES THAT ARE NOT SECTION EIGHT. WE WOULD IF WE RECEIVED A COMPLAINT. WHAT WE WOULD GO OUT AND TRY TO GET IN IF THE TENANT LEFT THEIR NAME AND THEIR THEIR UNIT NUMBER, WE WOULD GO IN AND KNOCK ON THE DOOR. A LOT OF TIMES WE LEAVE. KEEP CORK CALL CARDS. WE HANG ON THE DOOR ON PRIVATE REDS AND STUFF AND ASKED FOR THE FOLKS TO CALL US BACK TO SCHEDULE AN APPOINTMENT. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE GOOD CONTACT INFORMATION IF WE HAD CONTACT INFORMATION WE WOULD REACH OUT THEM AND TRY TO SCHEDULE A TIME THAT WOULD WORK FOR THEM TO GET IN. BECAUSE OUR BIGGEST PROBLEM WELL NOT ONLY SECTION EIGHT, AND, UH, APARTMENTS. WE ALSO HAVE SECTION EIGHT HOUSING. YES OF COMPLAINTS ABOUT THAT. WHAT ABOUT THE LADY'S HOUSE? DOWN ON? WAS IT ON 23RD STREET TO HEAD IT WAS INFECTED WITH MICE AND DAVID KAPLAN HAD TO GO DOWN THERE. THAT HOUSE WAS SEXUAL EIGHT. DID YOU ALL EXPECT THAT ONE? WE WENT OUT TO ONE. I WOULD HAVE TO FIND THE ADDRESS THAT WE HAD BEEN OUT AND WE HAD DECIDED FOR THAT. IT WAS ON SECTION EIGHT, SO WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE A SCHEDULED FOLLOW UP INSPECTION. YES I MEAN, THE ONE IF THINKING ABOUT IT DID HAVE MY SINNER IN THE HOUSE OFTEN DO YELL, INSPECT. ONCE A YEAR OR WHAT THOSE ARE ONCE A YEAR. SO IF THIS IS INSPECTED AND YOU DON'T DO IT. GO BACK AND CHECK THE SEE IF THE PROBLEM HAS BEEN TAKEN CARE OF OR ANYTHING. NO. IF WE DON'T WE DON'T CLOSE THAT. WE MAKE A SECTION EIGHT INSPECTION. WE WILL GO IN AND NOTE THE VIOLATIONS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK OUT. AND THEY HAVE TO BE CORRECTED. BEFORE WE GO THAT OR IF THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT, IT WILL FALL OFF SECTION EIGHT. THEY WOULD GET RID OF THEM OUT OF THE PROGRAM THAT LANDLORD AND THEN IT BECOMES A REGULAR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE THAT WE WILL HANDLE THAT WAY. IT WAS. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE YOU DON'T GO BACK OUT. I HAD A CASE. UH, JUST RECENTLY ABOUT LADY THAT DIDN'T CUT THE GRASS AND YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT ONE, AND I RODE WITH THE INSPECTOR AND I POINTED IT OUT IN THE HADN'T BEEN ANYTHING HAD NOTHING HAD BEEN DONE. I CALLED BACK AND ASKED WHAT HAPPENED. IT SAID THE CASE WAS CLOSED. BUT IT WAS STILL THE EXACT SAME WAY IT WAS SO WHO DECIDES ON CLOSES? THE CASE IS THERE IS THERE IS TWO THINGS. LET ME BACK UP HERE IF THEY GO INTO A CELLAR. A LOT OF TIME I GET THAT A LOT OF THE CASE IS CLOSED. THE SELLER WILL GO IN AND YOU WILL. EACH INSPECTION CLOSES OUT. BUT THEN THERE'S A ADDITIONAL INSPECTION UNLESS IT'S TOTALLY THERE'S NOT ANOTHER ONE, SO I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT ADDRESS TO GO BACK IN BECAUSE A LOT OF FOLKS WHEN I GET THAT CALL, WE LOOK INTO IT. THE CASE WILL SHOW THAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS INSPECTION AND IT'S CLOSED. BUT ANOTHER INSPECTION WAS CREATED IN A DIFFERENT NUMBER, AND THE CASE IS NOT TOTALLY CLOSED, BUT THAT INSPECTION WAS CLOSED. SO I WOULD REALLY NEED TO ADDRESS TO GO BACK TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. [00:35:05] IT SHOULDN'T IF IT WASN'T FOUND IN COMPLIANCE, THE CASE SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN CLOSED. YOU JUST TOLD ME TODAY ABOUT THAT. SAME CASE THAT YOU HAD SOMEBODY COME OUT THERE AND CUT THE BREAST DOWN OR WHATEVER. BUT IT'S STILL PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE. THERE'S A SEXUAL AID. HOUSE. THEY LIVE THERE. THEY ONLY CUT IN FRONT OF THE HOUSE. THEY DON'T CUT ON THE SIDE. THEY LIVE ON THE CORNER. YOU CAN'T SEE AROUND THE CORNER THIS BLACKS TO TRAFFIC, SO I TURNED IT IN. I RODE WITH MY INSPECTOR AND I SHOWED HIM. I SAID THE GRASSES AS HIGH AS I AM. IN THEY DON'T COME OUT OF THE FENCE AND CUT ON THAT SIDE. WHERE THERE ON THAT CORNER. AND YOU WENT OUT AND HAD TO CUT BUT I CHECKED ON BECAUSE HE WAS LIKE 34 WEEKS LATER, AND IT'S STILL LIKE THAT IT WAS RIGHT BEFORE NEW EVERY DAY. AND HE SAID THE CASE WAS CLOSED. I SAID, WELL, I RODE WITH THE GUY CALEB IN THAT ROLE, AND WE SHOWED HIM AND THEN THEY CLOSED THE CASE CORNER. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAT THEY'RE THAT CASE WAS OPEN. THAT INSPECTION. WE WENT OUT AND MADE INSPECTION. WHAT I'M SAYING IN A CELLAR. IF YOU GO OUT AND WE MAKE AN INSPECTION, IT ONCE WE RESULTED THAT THAT INSPECTION IS CLOSED, BUT IT CREATES ANOTHER ONE. SO, UM. I KNOW ON THAT ONE. THAT CASE WAS THERE AND CHECKED ON THAT. SO IT IS STILL OPEN. YOU GUYS CAME OUT AND CUT THE GRASS. BUT IT'S SO MUCH BRUSH ON THE FENCE. YOU CAN'T STILL CAN'T SEE AROUND THE CORNER. IN THAT THE LADY THAT OWNS THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY. OF COURSE SHE WAS RENTING IT. I MEAN, NOBODY DOES ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THE GRASSES. I MEAN, WHEN YOU GOT THAT MUCH OF GRASS AND TREES IS GOING THROUGH THE FENCE. WHEN YOU PULL UP TO THE STOP SAYING YOU CAN'T SEE THE CARS COMING OUT OVER THERE, AND I'VE REPORTED IT AND REPORTING THIS STILL NOT GETTING DONE, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THE REASON WHY WE HAVE YOU HERE BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY AH! INCIDENTS DEALING WITH INSPECTIONS THAT DON'T GET SOLVED. THEY YOU KNOW, YOU COULD TURN IT IN THREE OR FOUR TIMES AND STILL BE THE SAME THING. SO I JUST NEED TO KNOW. IS IT BECAUSE YOU OUT TO LINK IT WITH THESE PEOPLE ARE WE'RE NOT CHARGING. I'M IN LOVE. POSSIBLY GETTING A $200 FANS FOR YOUR GRASSES UP THIS HIGH THAT'S UNBELIEVABLE. AND THEN THE NEXT MONDAY MIGHT CUT IT. YOUR NEXT ONE IS BACK UP AGAIN TO SEND THEM RIGHT BACK OUT. SO I ALWAYS FEEL LIKE IF YOU HIT A PERSON IN THE POCKET. IT'S GONNA MAKE THEM WITH THAT. AND I KNOW AT ONE TIME I SPOKE TO YOU ABOUT THAT. AND YOU SAID, WELL, WE HAVE CERTAIN AMOUNT CAN ONLY CHARGE CERTAIN AMOUNT. WE NEED TO LOOK INTO THAT. I MEAN THE ORDINANCE . THERE'S A FEE SCHEDULE IN CHAPTER 1 56. THAT GOES BAD. THOSE IN PLACE AND BASED ON THE NUMBER OF VIOLATIONS AND IT ESCALATES. IF THEY WEREN'T IN, COMPLIED BY THE NEXT ONE. IT GOES UP AND BASICALLY, DOUBLES GOES BACK UP UP TO, UH, I WANT TO SAY $1500. UH A MAXIMUM ON EACH INSPECTION, SO THEY ESCALATE PRETTY FAST. AH! THE PROBLEM WE DO HAVE AND I WILL SAY THIS. WE DO HAVE A LACK OF COMPLIANCE OUT THERE. WE USED TO GO OUT AND SHOOT VIOLATIONS IT USED TO I USED TO USE THE TERM ABOUT DEMOLITION. IT USED TO MEAN A LOT. YEARS AGO BEFORE THE DOWNTURN, PEOPLE WERE THERE. NOW, HOUSES ARE NUMBERS AND LANDLORDS. IT CAME BACK IN IF WE ISSUED A INTENT TO DEMOLISH BECAUSE THERE WERE VIOLATIONS, THEY WOULD COME OUT OF THE WOODWORK AND WANT TO SAVE THAT NOW. HALF THE TIME WILL SEND THE VIOLATIONS AND WE DON'T GET A RESPONSE. AH, YOU KNOW ON THOSE PROPERTIES, SO WE ARE CUTTING. A LOT OF GRASS REFERRALS WERE WERE CLEANING MORE OCCUPIED PROPERTIES THAN WE EVER HAVE IN THE PAST BECAUSE OF PROBLEMS ONGOING THAT WE USED TO NOT HAVE. AND, UH, IT IS. IT IS HARD OUT THERE, AND IT'S FRUSTRATING FOR SOME OF OUR STAFF WHEN WE GO IN, AND WE'RE GETTING LACK OF COMPLIANCE, AND WE'RE JUST RACKING UP PENALTIES AND YOU KNOW WE'RE NOT. IT'S NOT MAKING A DIFFERENCE. AND THEN THAT'S THE BIG THING. REGULAR PENALTIES AND THAT'S IT LIKE THE GOWN CORNER, YOU KNOW ABOUT HIM. STILL SAME WAY SEND THEM OUT. HE'S GOT. THEY DON'T KNOW HOW MANY FANS OR WHAT ARE YOU DOING TO MAKE? SOMETHING HAPPENED AT ONE TIME? I HAD A GUY IN MY DISTRICT THAT KEPT BRINGING ALL OF THESE, UM OH, I DON'T CAN'T EVEN THINK OF WHAT THEY CALL THESE THINGS. THEY HAD THEM PILED UP IN THE YARD, AND, UH, AND WE KEPT TRYING TO FIND IT AND KEPT FINDING. THEY CAME OUT AND LOCKED HIM UP. POLICE PUT HIM IN JAIL FOR 10 DAYS. I MEAN, THEY PUT HIM IN DAYS, AND AFTER THAT HE CLEANED THAT YARD UP, BUT IT'S GOTTEN TO THE PLACE NOW [00:40:05] IS SO COPES IS SO LAID BACK. THAT YOU CAN'T GET ANYTHING DONE. I JUST GOTTA KICKS. TAMMY. NOW TALK TO WHAT SHE HAD TO SAY IN A MINUTE, BUT IT'S TOO LATE BACK. GRASS IS HIGH. IN IN. ARE THEY SUPPOSED TO WHEN THEY RIDE DOWN THE STREET AND THEY SAY, SEE? BUSINESSES GOING ON CARS OUT IN THE FRONT YARDS AND ALL OF THAT. AREN'T THEY SUPPOSED TO STOP AND DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? OR THEY JUST NOBODY SAYS NOTHING . THEY DON'T DO ANYTHING. WE TRY TO BE PROACTIVE WHEN WE CAN AND WILL ADDRESS THOSE WHEN WE'RE STOPPING DRESSING AND ANOTHER PROPERTY. WE'RE TRYING TO PICK THOSE UP, BUT WE DO HAVE A VERY LARGE CASELOAD OF OPEN CASES. SO THE INSPECTORS WE DO GIVE THEM SOME DISCRETION ON THAT. BUT HOWEVER, IF THEY'RE STOPPING AT ONE PROPERTY, AND THAT SAME CONDITION IS ON EITHER SIDE ACROSS STREET, YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THAT. AH, YOU KNOW, WHILE THEY'RE THERE NOW IT'S HARD TO ADDRESS A WHOLE LARGE AREA. UH IF EVERYBODY IS IN NON COMPLIANCE, BUT WE DO HAVE CASES AND WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY. I THINK WE'RE ALL IN THE SAME TEAM HERE, TOO. TO TRY TO MAKE THE COMMUNITY A BETTER PLACE. AND YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT FOR US AND OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DIVISION, ENSURE THE HEALTH AND LIFE SAFETY OF EVERYBODY IN GENERAL WELFARE. AH YOU KNOW IN THESE HOUSES ARE RENTAL HOUSES, TOO. SO WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY AND WE ARE FINDING PEOPLE WE ARE. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH FOLKS AND THROUGH OUR EQUITY AND REVIEW THAT WE DID WITH THE CENTER OF COMMUNITY PROGRESS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING AND CHANGE WHERE WE GO BACK OUT IF WE'VE CITED FOR GRASS, UH, WE ARE GOING BACK OUT ON THESE NUISANCE COMPLAINTS AND FOLLOWING BACK UP IN A QUICKER TIME, BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES WE WEREN'T GETTING BACK FOR 30 45 DAYS. SO ON THOSE WE'VE BEEN HAVING THE INSPECTORS GO BACK OUT TO SEE HIM. THE FOLKS ARE CUTTING THE GRASS GETTING THAT TAKEN CARE OF, AND WE FEEL THAT THAT HAS BEEN WORKING IN ADDRESSING SOME, AND WE'RE GETTING THE ATTENTION TO FOLKS THE ONES THAT WANT TO COMPLY. AH! NOR THERE INSTEAD OF THAT. WE'RE PUTTING HEFTY FANS ON FOLKS THAT FOR JUST A SMALL NUISANCE, ONE INSTEAD OF THE REPEAT OFFENDER. IT DOESN'T DO ANY GOOD WITH THE FINES IF THEY IF THEY'RE NOT, THEY DON'T HAVE TO PAY THE FINE. SO THEY DON'T DO GOOD PHANTOM, AND THEN THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES BEHIND IT, AND I THINK THAT'S THE WHOLE PROBLEM WITH THE FANS. THERE'S NO CONSEQUENCES. YOU MIGHT MAKE THEM CUT THE GRASS ONE TIME, BUT THEY COME RIGHT BACK IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS. AM I THE ONLY PERSON TO HAVE PROBLEMS IN THE DISTRICT? NOBODY ELSE HAS PROBLEMS. YEAH, I DO, TOO. BUT BEFORE I GO ANY FURTHER, I KEEP GETTING A TEXT FROM TAMMY. SHE'S ON FACEBOOK WATCH, AND SHE'LL BE HERE LATE AND SHE WANTS TO KNOW . WHY IS IT THAT, UH, THAT PERSON THAT HAD ALL THE MICE IN THE HOUSE? WHY WOULDN'T THEY LET HER MOVE? THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR SECTION EIGHT. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. I APOLOGIZE. I DID HEAR. THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR SECTION EIGHT, SECTION EIGHT, WHICH SHE'S NOT GONNA BE HERE TODAY. SHE'S OUT OF THE COUNTRY SO YOU ALWAYS GOT . YEAH. I MEAN, WE DO THE INSPECTION AND LIST OF THE VIOLATIONS AND, UH, WE DON'T WE DON'T ADMINISTER THAT PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT THAT WAS THE QUESTION FROM TAMMY'S SHE, UH SHE'LL BE HERE SHORTLY, BUT SHE WAS TEXTING ME. WITH DIFFERENT THINGS THAT SHE WANTED TO KNOW THIS. THIS, UH HOUSES IN HER AREA AND HAS WELL DAVID CAPLAN. HE WENT OUT, AND HE SAID IT WAS HORRIBLE TO MICE EVERYWHERE. AND WE WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY WOULDN'T ALLOW THEM TO MOVE. I JUST GOT MY CUE OPENS, SO I WANT TO. I'M SORRY, GUYS. UM, LOOK, I HAD TO END TIME YOU GET CAUGHT IN THE ELEVATOR SHAKES YOUR AH. UH I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP THE WHOLE THING, BUT I AM REALLY CONCERNED ABOUT WE. HAVE TO DO AND SO, BUT I'M GONNA LET COREY COUNCILMAN COREY SPEAK. AND THEN I HAVE COUNCILMAN ANDREW ON AND I CAN'T HAVE COUNCILMAN DANCE, SALMAN SO I DON'T WANT TO TAKE UP THE WHOLE SHOW BECAUSE I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. BUT I COULD STAY HERE FOR AN HOUR TO TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE COMPLAINTS THAT I HAVE. SO BEFORE YOU LEAVE, I'LL GIVE YOU SOME MORE OKAY? I HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS AND THEN I'LL JOIN THE QUEUE AGAIN. SOME FOLLOW UPS. ABOUT ENFORCEMENT WHEN A PROPERTY OWNER HAS MULTIPLE PENALTIES [00:45:07] THAT ARE BEING IGNORED. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU CAN USE TO ENFORCE? I KNOW WE HEARD THE EXAMPLE OF SOMEONE BEING ARRESTED. YOU DON'T HAVE THE POWER TO DO THAT. BUT IT IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU CAN DO TO ENFORCE WHEN THEY HAVE PENALTIES THAT ARE BEING IGNORED. WELL. THERE'S MULTIPLE TOOLS THERE WHEN SOMEONE'S NOT COMPLYING. I MEAN, IT GOES BACK IN ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE. I MEAN, WE DO FOLLOW LANE, SO YOU TAKE THE PENALTIES ON THEIR ACCOUNTS RECEIVABLE FILE THE LIEN THEY WILL SEND THE DEMAND FOR PAYMENT ON OUR PENALTIES. IF IT WASN'T APPEALED TO THE COLD BOARD. THERE'S A PROCESS EVERY TIME WE SEND THE VIOLATION CITATION AND THE CITATION THEY CAN APPEAL IT TO THE CODE BOARD. IT GETS SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING IS SET ON HOLD THAT SPECIFIC VIOLATION . AT THAT TIME, WE COULD GO OUT AND SITE MORE. BUT AH, IT'S AN APPEAL PROCESS, BUT THE OTHER ITEMS WE CAN TAKE THE COURT AND WELL, WE DO. WE'RE IN COURT. EVERY ALMOST EVERY DAY. WE HAVE CASES OVER THERE FOLLOWED THE ONES THAT THEY WERE PLACING PENALTIES AND WE'RE NOT GETTING COMPLIANCE. AND SOMETIMES IF WE CAN GET THE PERSON IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE SOMETIMES WE'LL GAIN COMPLIANCE IF THEY CAN GET DRUGS THERE. THAT'S WHERE THE CASE OF BEING LOCKED UP. IN THE PAST. WE HAVE HAD CASES WHERE WE WENT IN FRONT OF THE JUDGE AND JUDGE HAS ISSUED AN ARREST WARRANT. ORDER US TO THEM. THEY'RE NOT SAYING A WHOLE LOT. BUT ON THOSE CERTAIN CASES THAT HAS HAPPENED AND THAT HASN'T HAPPENED FOR A WHILE. I CAN I CAN SAY THAT. AH CAN I ASK YOU SOMETHING DIFFERENT JUDGE NOW. THAT'S OVER THERE. WE HAVE DIFFERENT JUDGES. THEY GO IN. THEY'RE DIFFERENT. THEY'RE IN DIFFERENT COURTROOMS LESS. SOMETHING'S CHANGED. THE LAST TIME I WAS OUT THERE A MONTH AGO, SO IT'S I HAD A EIGHT AND HE WOULD GO EVERY FRIDAY OR WHATEVER WRITERS AND IT WOULD BE THE SAME PEOPLE IN THERE, JUST SAYING PEOPLE TO VIOLATORS AND THEY LET HIM WALK. YOU MIGHT BE TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU SAID EVERY FRIDAY. THAT'S OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD ENFORCEMENT BOARD, AND THEY JUST SAME ONES EVERY WEEK, YOU KNOW, COME AND THEY JUST LET THEM GO. AND SO IT WAS LONG AS YOU GUYS DON'T HAVE NOTHING. HOLD A LOT OF OUR OR FINES. NOW PEOPLE ARE MAKING GOOD FAITH. THEY CAN GO IN THERE LIKE A JUDGE COMING BACK IN, BUT THEY'RE USUALLY NOT. THEY COULD BE CONDITIONALLY DISCHARGED, OR THEY PAY A PORTION OF THE FINE. AH! YOU KNOW, EACH CASE IS A IS A DIFFERENT CASE. SO YOU SAID YOU HAVE 12 INSPECTORS ASSIGNED THE SECTION EIGHT PROPERTIES IN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PAYS FOR THEIR SALARIES AND BENEFITS FROM THEIR OWN BUDGET. CORRECT ARE THOSE POSITIONS THEY PAID FOR? UM IN TOTALITY. ARE THEY CAPACITY OR THERE'S SOME UNFILLED POSITIONS THAT THEY'RE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT AS WELL. THAT I MEAN, CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW THAT WE HAVE ANY VACANT WE HAVE ONE WE HAVE ONE. CURRENTLY UNDERSTAND? PAID FOR 12. SEVERAL LOUVER METRO GOVERNMENT AGENCIES HAVE TOLD ME THEY CAN START HIRING NEW EMPLOYEES AND TO OCTOBER IS THAT THE CASE FOR YOU ALL AS WELL FROM WHAT WE JUST APPROVED IN THE RECENT BUDGET, THE RENTAL REGISTRY POSITIONS ALL OF THOSE THERE WAS STIPULATED IN THE BUDGET. THEY BUDGET US TO FUNDING AND WE WERE INFORMED. YOU KNOW, THE OCTOBER 1ST WAS THE DATE. BASED ON THE FUNDING. AND HOW MANY RESIDENTIAL INSPECTORS IN TOTAL DO YOU CURRENTLY HAVE AND HOW MANY ARE VACANT? YEAH WE HAVE 10 VACANCIES. THERE'S 49. IF WE WERE FULLY STAFFED RIGHT NOW, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE PROBLEM IN THE NEW FOLKS. NO INCLUDES A SECTION EIGHT BUT INCLUDE THE NINE INSPECTORS OR THE NINE ADDITIONAL STAFF MEMBERS. 18 FOR THE RENTAL REGISTRY THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE THE L. UNDERSTOOD ARE YOU INSPECTORS TRAINED IN THE UNIFORM RESIDENTIAL LANDLORD INTENDED ACT. WE HAVE HAD TRAINING AND HAD LEGAL AID OVER. I CAN'T SAY THAT EVERYBODY AH HAS BEEN THROUGH THAT. BUT USUALLY WE DO THAT, UH, EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS WOULD RUN THE FOLKS THROUGH OUR FOLKS. WESLEY, DO YOU WANT TO. OKAY? I'M SORRY. YOU CAN. I CAN. I CAN ANSWER THAT. UH WE HAVEN'T HAD THE TRAINING THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. UM, WE CAN GET THAT. THAT'S SCHEDULED TO REACH OUT AND GET THAT TRAINING SET UP AT ONE OF OUR REGULAR DO YOU THINK PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE IS MORE STRICT, LESS STRICT, OR JUST ABOUT THE SAME AS STATE TENDER RIGHTS? THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE IS IT'S A DIFFERENT CODE. I MEAN, IT'S DEALING BASICALLY WITH THE PROPERTY ITSELF, SPELLING OUT [00:50:03] WHAT THE MAINTENANCE THINGS. WHAT IS THE CODE WHERE THE. THE TENANT LANDLORD ACT IS SAYING, HEY, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO COMPLY WITH THESE MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS. THERE'S 10 AGREEMENTS AND YOU KNOW, AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT ALL OF THEM ARE BECAUSE YOU KNOW, A TENANT MIGHT BE RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTTING THE GRASS. AH WE'RE GONNA END UP. ULTIMATELY IT'S THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY. BUT YOU KNOW, SOME OF THOSE REQUIREMENTS MIGHT BE SOMETHING IN THE WRITTEN LEASE THAT THE TENANTS AH, YOU KNOW, RESPONSIBLE FOR US, BUT THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE COLD SPELLING OUT. THE CODES SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PROPERTY, NOT NECESSARILY THE RIGHTS OF THE 10. 1 MORE QUESTION BEFORE I GET BACK IN THE QUEUE. UNTIL IT'S DO HAVE LEGAL ISSUES AND THEIR TENANTS RIGHTS ARE VIOLATED. DO YOU ALL WORK WITH ANY ORGANIZATIONS OR REFER THEM TO ORGANIZATIONS LIKE LEGAL AID ? YES WE'VE AS I MENTIONED BEFORE. WE WER IN CONTACT WITH LEGAL D OV THE YEARS AND ANEN AWME TO OUR STAFF MEETINGS SU GOI O AIN TAND ERCT EUE.KAY? THE OKAY,K IN THE COUNSELING BEFORE I CALL YOU LET ME ASK THIS ONE QUESTION YOU DID I REMEMBER WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WHEN GOVERNMENT FIRST, UH IN 2003. COUNCILMAN BOB HENDERSON AND MYSELF. WE WROTE AN ORDINANCE AND THAT THE RENTER WHO HAVE OWNED THE HOUSE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GARBAGE IN THE GRASS CUTTING THEY NO LONGER ENFORCE THAT. NO, WE ENFORCE IT . WE ENFORCED THE GRASS CUTTING. WE WILL CITE THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY. FOR THAT AND LET THEM . DISPUTE BETWEEN TENANTS THAT THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GRASS AND THE GARBAGE. AND I KNOW THAT'S ON THE BOOKS BECAUSE BARBECUE LISTEN AND MYSELF WORKED ON THAT. I BELIEVE MOST OWNERS THAT THAT WE'VE DEALT WITH THE RECEIVED A LETTER KNOW THAT IT IS BUT THEY'RE NOT DOING IT. DADDY PROBABLY TRIED TO DO IS THEY TRIED TO NEGOTIATE A CERTAIN RENT WITH THE HOUSE WITH THEIR RENTER, AND THEY SAY WE'LL CHARGE YOU THIS MUCH IN RENT. BUT YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR CUTTING THE GRASS NOW, BUT HE'S SAYING IS THAT IT'S ULTIMATELY THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY. BUT IN THE LEASE AGREEMENT THEY'VE TRIED TO PLACE THAT RESPONSIBILITY ONTO THE TENANT AND WHETHER THE TENANT DOES IT OR NOT. IS THAT THE END OF THE DAY? IT'S THE OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY. THAT'S THE BIG PROBLEM THAT WE HAVE, BECAUSE WE MADE A LAW TO SAY THAT THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE GRASS IN THE GARBAGE. I HAVE PEOPLE THAT MOVE FROM APARTMENTS COMPLEX DOWNLOAD SECTION EIGHT. THE BEAT. YOU DID NOT BEAT YOU. TERRORISM MIGHT BE AND THEY HAVE NEVER HAD GARBAGE PICKUP NEVER KNEW WHAT TO DO. DON'T HAVE GARBAGE SPEAK UP IN THE OWNER IS NOT DOING IT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO PIN THAT SWIMS HAS A THE ORDINANCE DRESSES THAT EVERYBODY IS SUPPOSED TO HAVE. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT SITE, PLEASE HONEST THING THEY CARE OF THAT WE SIGHT THEM EVERY DAY. I MEAN, WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY ON A DUMPSTER TRASH, NO DRESS. YOU KNOW THAT TRASH IS OUT ON THE PROPERTY. SOME OF IT IS WHEN THERE'S CANS AND FOLKS HAVEN'T THEY'RE NOT USING IT THE STUFF THEY'RE SITTING ON THE PORCH OR SO. COUNCILMAN BOY. THANK YOU, CHAIR. UM. SO LET ME LET ME JUST FOR MY OWN TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND ALL OF THIS. SO IT SOUNDS LIKE, UM, THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. DOES THEIR OWN MAINTENANCE AND INSPECTIONS OF THEIR OWN PROPERTIES. YOU GUYS DON'T AREN'T INVOLVED IN THAT. IS THAT CORRECT? UNLESS WE HAVE A COMPLAINT, JUST THE SAME AS ANY JUST REGULAR PROPERTY ON YOU. AND THEN ON THE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROGRAM. UM YOU GUYS DO A MOVEMENT INSPECTION. AND AN ANNUAL INSPECTION OF EACH ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES. AND THEN. FOR YOU HAVE A COMPLAINT DRIVEN PROCESS THAT ALLOWS YOU TO GO OUT AND DO AN INSPECTION ON MARKET RATE OR HOUSING AUTHORITY OR ANY OTHER KIND OF PROPERTY IF THE COMPLAINT DRIVES THAT PROCESS. CORRECT. OKAY UM, AND IT IS TRUE THAT IN METRO LOUISVILLE NOW ALL PROPERTY OWNERS ARE REQUIRED TO ACCEPT SECTION EIGHT. AT AND SO I GUESE OF THE THINGS THAT I'M WONDERING IS HAVE YOU SEEN A DIFFERENCE SINCE THAT LAW WAS PUT INTO PLACE? WHERE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO OTHERWISE MAY HAVE SAID, I DON'T WANT TO TAKE SECTION EIGHT OR MORE RESISTANT TO DOING? MAINTENANCE AND FIXING THINGS. AND THOSE UNITS HAVE YOU SEEN HAVE JUST ANECDOTALLY HAS THAT BEEN AN ISSUE OR NOT SO MUCH? IT HASN'T RISEN UP TO THAT ISSUE HASN'T RISEN UP TO MY LEVEL FROM THE INSPECTORS AND STUFF. I DON'T THINK WE'VE NOTICED A BIG, SIGNIFICANT CHANGE. AND WHEN YOU DO YOUR ANNUAL INSPECTIONS ON THE SECTION EIGHT PROPERTIES [00:55:04] AGAIN KIND OF ANECDOTALLY FROM YOUR GUYS IS ARE THEY USUALLY PASSED? WHAT'S THE PERCENTAGE WHERE YOU REQUIRE SOMETHING TO BE DONE DURING THAT ANNUAL INSPECTION OVER AND AGAINST IT'S GOOD TO GO. WE'RE MOVING ON THE LAST TIME. UNLESS NUMBERS HAVE CHANGED. UH IT WAS USUALLY TAKEN US ABOUT THREE INSPECTIONS. SOME OF THEM WERE NO SHOWS. SOME MIGHT HAVE WE REPORTED DEFICIENCIES AND HAD TO COME BACK OUT. SO, BUT I GUESS I GUESS WHAT I WAS ASKING MORE SPECIFICALLY, IS HOW MANY TIMES WHEN YOU DO AN ANNUAL INSPECTION. HER UNIT. NOT PER TIMES YOU VISIT IF YOU NEED TO COME BACK AND SOME BECAUSE NOBODY'S THERE OR SOMETHING, BUT FOR UNIT ON AN ANNUAL INSPECTION . HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU GO BACK OUT? AND YOU'RE LIKE THIS IS GOOD TO GO. WE DON'T HAVE TO COME BACK. AND HOW MANY TIMES DO YOU GO AND SAY WE'VE GOT DEFICIENCIES OR PROBLEMS HERE? WE'VE GOT TO GET THIS FIXED. YOU KNOW THE PERCENTAGES ON THAT I HAVEN'T RAN THAT IN A WHILE. I CAN DO THAT AND GET BACK. AND WELL, I MEAN, JUST JUST ARE WE SAYING I MEAN 10% OF THE TIME AND UNITS IN GOOD CONDITION OR 50% LET ME I ASK MY I'VE GOT MY SUPERVISOR'S A COUPLE OF MONTHS. MY FOLKS HERE THAT MIGHT HAVE A BETTER THAT ARE DEALING WITH THAT ON A DAILY ASPECT, BUT WE CAN RUN THOSE WE CAN RUN THAT. AND YEAH, AND GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT FOR MORE ACCURATE. YEAH. WESLEY BARBER, WESLEY BARBER, MANAGER FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT, UM SO I DON'T BELIEVE, SIR, THAT LIKE HE SAID, WE HAVEN'T RUN THAT REPORT IN A VERY LONG TIME. IF I IF YOU WERE FORCING ME TO MAKE SOME SORT OF SPECULATION, IT WOULD BE VERY HARD AND IT WOULD BE THE MOST ROUGH ESTIMATE. I CAN THINK OF MY HEAD. I THINK FOR ME, THAT WOULD BE AN INTERESTING NUMBER. JUST BECAUSE I MEAN I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND. THE CONDITION PICTURES THAT WE'VE SEEN ANECDOTAL EVIDENCE THAT WE'VE HEARD ABOUT. PROPERTIES THAT ARE NOT IN IN GOOD CONDITION, TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND. HOW THAT'S HAPPENING, RIGHT? ARE WE ? ARE WE GOING OUT AND FINDING THE DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS THAT THESE ANNUAL INSPECTIONS AND HAVING TO LIKE? YOU KNOW, KEEP GOING BACK AND BACK AND SAYING, LET'S GET THIS UNIT UP TO SNUFF OR OR IS THAT MORE RARE THAN IT KIND OF SEEMS FROM THE EVIDENCE THAT'S BEEN PRESENTED HERE? I'M TRYING TO GET MY ARMS AROUND. COUNCILMAN HAS A MENTIONED ON THOSE SPECIFIC CASES LIKE THAT YOU HAVE IN IF THEY DON'T COME INTO COMPLIANCE, THEY GET KICKED OUT OF SECTION EIGHT. THEY THEY TERMINATE THERE. AGREEMENT WITH THE PROPERTY OWNER. BUT THAT'S WHY I WAS ASKING THE QUESTION ABOUT COMING A SPECIFIC PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE WE PICK UP FROM WHERE WE LEFT OFF WITH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE. THAT'S WHY I ASKED MY FIRST QUESTION BECAUSE I WAS WONDERING WHETHER PEOPLE WHO DIDN'T WANT TO ACCEPT SECTION EIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE WHERE DRAGGING THEIR FEET IN ORDER TO GET KICKED OUT OF THE PROGRAM. AND THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION ISN'T RISEN UP TO YOUR LEVEL. IT HASN'T BEEN SOMETHING HAPPEN. THROUGHOUT THE YEAR, BUT I CAN'T SAY IT'S A SUPER HIGH PERCENTAGE. UH YOU KNOW, LET'S. WE CAN GET THOSE NUMBERS. WE CAN GO BACK IN AND YOU KNOW, GET BACK WITH YOU AND I CAN BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU APPRECIATE YOU. COUNCILMAN DAN SAM. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, SIR. I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE COMPLAINT PROCESS. UM. OUR GUESTS WAS TOLD THAT SHE'S I THINK, SHE SAID. NINE MONTHS HE HAD HER CARPET WAS DRENCHED WITH SEWAGE. DID SHE COMPLAIN TO HOUSING AUTHORITY? THEN YOU SAID, BECAUSE IT DIDN'T GET DONE THAT SHE NEEDED TO CALL SECTION EIGHT. THAT WAS THE WHAT'S THE COMPLAINT PROCESS WAS AS I RECALL THAT MISS MITCHELL WAS IN . SECTION I MEAN HOUSING AUTHORITY BUILDING. SO I TOOK IT THAT SHE HAD REPORTED THAT THE MAINTENANCE AND THEN SHE ASKED THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT. I THINK BELIEVE, SHE SAID, AND THEN SHE SAID SHE CALLED US, UM I WOULD LIKE TO. SHE'S STILL HERE. I WOULD LIKE TO GET HER UNIT NUMBER. I DON'T WANT TO DO IT. YEAH GET THAT AND WE CAN CHECK TO SEE YOU KNOW OUR ACTIONS ON IT IF THE CARPET WAS THERE AND CLEANED YES, WE MIGHT HAVE WENT IN AND IF WE WERE THERE, WE MIGHT HAVE CLOSED THE CASE IF THEY CLEANED THE CARPET. BUT YOU KNOW, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT NUMBER AND SEE OUR INSPECTION AND GO BACK INTO TO GET THE FACTS. WHAT IS? UM HER RECOURSE IF SHE IS IN UM. GRASS IS GROWING TOO HIGH AND SHE GETS FIND SHE HAS TO PAY THE FINE. WHAT'S HER RECOURSE FOR HAVING TO WAIT NINE MONTHS TO GET HER CARPET CHANGE? WHO WHO'S RESPONSIBLE? WHO ANSWERED HER FOR THAT? AND SHE GET ANY RECOMPENSE FOR THAT? WHAT? HOW WHAT? WHAT'S WHAT'S HER RECOURSE ? I MEAN, OUR CODE DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT, I GUESS WOULD BE THE REGULAR LEGAL YOU KNOW REMEDIES. YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO [01:00:01] WAIT THAT LONG. NO IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE THEY HAVE MUCH MANY ADVOCATES ON THEIR BEHALF, AND WE WERE FINDING THEM FROM THEM NOT DOING THEIR JOB. BUT WHEN WE DON'T DO OUR JOB, BUT WELL, AND I HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THAT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILWOMAN. IT'S A REALLY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'VE GOTTA SOMEWHAT SPECIFIC QUESTION. WE HAD AN INCIDENT IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. VERY TRAGIC. THE YOUNG MAN. THE FAMILY'S AIR CONDITIONING HAD BEEN OUT, AND THEY REPORTED IT TO THE LANDLORD REPEATEDLY AND IT WAS NEVER REPAIRED AND THE YOUNG MAN WOULD SPEND THE NIGHT THE CAR AND DIED. UH BUT UPON RESEARCHING WHAT THE RULES ARE SURROUNDING AIR CONDITIONING THE WAY IT SEEMS IS THAT THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT AT THIS TIME. THAT UNIT BE PROVIDED WITH AIR CONDITIONING. IF THERE IS A RECONDITIONING, THE LANDLORD IS REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN IT. AND IF THEY CHOOSE NOT TO, THEY CAN SIMPLY TAKE THE AIR CONDITIONING OUT. SO MY QUESTION, UM, COUPLE DIFFERENT QUESTIONS NUMBER ONE. LIKE HOW MANY UNITS DO WE ARE THERE IN THE CITY UNDER SECTION EIGHT THAT DON'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING ALREADY, BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY GONNA GET WORSE. AND NUMBER TWO INSPECTOR COMES IN THERE AND SEES THAT THE AIR CONDITIONING IS NO LONGER OPERATIVE. WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IF THE AIR CONDITIONERS INOPERATIVE, WE WOULD WE MADE AN INSPECTION. WE SHOULD BE GIVEN A VIOLATION NOTICE FILM TO CORRECT IT IN A REASONABLE TIME PERIOD. AH! YOU KNOW FOR THAT, HOWEVER, THERE IS NO REQUIREMENT IN THE CODE AND MOST NATIONAL CODES. THAT IT REALLY JUST ADDRESS IS BASICALLY THE HEAT. AH! YOU KNOW REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE MECHANICAL CODE REQUIREMENTS FOR VENTILATION, ETCETERA, BUT. YOU KNOW THAT ARE OUT THERE. BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE WAY THE CODE IS EXIST TODAY. OKAY, SO WHAT DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION ON THE NUMBER OF SECTION EIGHTS WITH AIR CONDITIONING AND STUFF ARE AH! ON THE. THE CHECKLIST ON THE THAT'S GOING THROUGH THERE. I DON'T I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE CAPTURING ALL THAT. AH THAT GOES THROUGH, BUT I CAN CHECK ON THAT AND GET BACK WITH YOU. OR I CAN ASK MY STAFF HERE TO SAY, ARE WE CAPTURING THAT INFORMATION? OKAY SO WHAT IS A REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME TO REPAIR THE AIR CONDITIONING? IT'S GOING TO BE 95 DEGREES. IT'S STILL GOING TO BE 80 DEGREES THE NEXT MORNING. WHAT'S THE REASONABLE PERIOD OF TIME TO GET THAT AIR CONDITIONING PREPARING TYPICALLY ON ON THAT. YOU KNOW, I WOULD SAY IT'S GOING TO BE SEVERAL DAYS. AH! UNFORTUNATELY YOU CALL SOMEONE AND GET SOMEBODY DEPENDS ON THE CONTRACTORS TO THE WILLINGNESS EVEN THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WILL CALL AND THEY WILL GET SOMEBODY. WILL COME OUT, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE TRYING TO GET YOUR LIGHTS ON. AFTER THE STORMS THE OTHER DAY, YOU CAN GET CALLING. AH! YOU KNOW THEY'RE WORKING AS FAST AS POSSIBLE FOR LGBT OR YOUR ELECTRICIAN. IF YOU'RE YOU FIND OUT YOUR LINE WAS PULLED OFF THE HOUSE AND YOUR RESPONSIBILITY INSTEAD OF THIRDS. AND YOU'RE YOU'RE TRYING TO GET A CONTRACTOR OUT THERE. I MEAN, IT'S REASONABLE, BUT IF IT'S A LIFE SAFETY ISSUE, THE EXTREME HEAT ADDS DIFFERENT THINGS. SO I MEAN, YOU KNOW IF THIS WAS SPRINGTIME, AND THE AVERAGE TEMPERATURE WAS WAS DIFFERENT, SO I MEAN, THERE'S A LOT OF SCENARIOS THAT CAN COME INTO PLAY, WHICH WOULD BE A REASONABLE TIME DURING THAT HEAT SPELL. I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE A 48 HOUR THING. BUT QUESTION THOUGH. WHAT? EXCUSE ME THE SAME QUESTION BECAUSE HE IS REQUIRED NOT AIR CONDITIONING NECESSARILY OWNED BY THE NATIONAL CODES. WHAT IS A REASONABLE TIME? FOR THE HEAT TO BE REPAIRED THE SAME THING. A COUPLE OF DAYS. TYPICALLY, WE CAN SAY NO HEAT. AND USUALLY A 48 HOUR TYPE THING. NOW, IF THEY HAVE SCHEDULED WITH THE PERSON AND THE BIG BUILDING COMING IN, THEY WOULD DO THAT SOME PEOPLE PROVIDE SOME TEMPORARY HEAT. YOU KNOW IT'S A SPACE HEATER OR SOMETHING TO TRY TO. YOU KNOW THAT'S TAKEN A WHILE FOR THE CONTRACTOR TO GET PARTS, ESPECIALLY DURING COVID. THERE WERE CERTAIN THINGS THAT PEOPLE COULDN'T GET BLOWER MOTORS AND STUFF LIKE THAT. WE'RE TAKING SOME TIME. BUT THOSE ARE OUT THERE. THAT WAS TRAGIC. YES, IT WAS. BEEN LOOKING AT THE THINGS THAT WE CAN DO VIA ORDINANCES TO CORRECT THAT PROBLEM. THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. BUT LET ME ASK YOU. YOU SAID THE GUY WAS IN THE CAR AND HE DIED. YES, THIS IS A 17 YEAR OLD. HE APPARENTLY SPENT THE NIGHT IN THE CAR, A COUPLE DIFFERENT NIGHTS AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, HE SPENT THE NIGHT IN A CAR PARKED IN THE GARAGE. BECAUSE THE CAR EDITOR CONDITIONING OH, SORRY TO HEAR THAT, OKAY? AND THEN I KNOW THE QUARRY YOUR NEXT, BUT WHAT SHE SAID REMINDED ME OF SOMETHING. SO CAN I. WHEN SHE WAS TALKING ABOUT SOMEBODY STAND IN THE CAR. THE CARS THAT AGAIN THAT YARD [01:05:09] THAT YOU WENT TO BEEN THERE TWO YEARS AND SOMEBODY'S LIVING IN THE CAR. AND HE ACTUALLY CHANGED HIS LITTLE BICYCLE TO THE HANDLEBARS EVERY NIGHT. NOBODY TAKE, BUT HE'S LIVING IN THAT CAR OFF SUMMER HIM WINNER. ONE OF Y'ALL GONNA BE ABLE TO DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT? WE'RE WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT. WE HAVE CITED FOR IT AND UNFORTUNATELY, WE HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR TWO YEARS, OKAY? COUNCILMAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SO MY QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT. THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE BEING LESS OR MORE RESTRICTIVE COMPARED TO STATE TENANT RIGHTS. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT SOME OF WHAT WE JUST HEARD. YOU KNOW? THE STATE'S STATUTE AROUND MAINTAINING AIR CONDITIONING, HEATING ELECTRICAL ETCETERA. IT'S PRETTY CLEAR ABOUT YOU KNOW , IT HAS TO BE MAINTAINED AND IN GOOD CONDITION. HOW IS THAT ADDRESSED IN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE DO YOU ALL REQUIRE THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE HEATING AND AIR CONDITIONING. IS THERE AN UNDERSTANDING? OR IS THERE ANYTHING WRITTEN THAT TALKS ABOUT HOW OFTEN THAT NEEDS TO BE MAINTAINED OR FIXED IF THEIR COMPLAINTS IT. EVERYTHING IS SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINED IN WORKING PROPERTY. AND AS I RECALL, AH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CERTAIN DATE FOR THE HEAT. THAT THE. WE'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP IT A CERTAIN TEMPERATURE 65 OR 68 DEGREES IS WHAT'S JUMPING OFF MY HEAD. I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK THIS UP. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE I'VE LOOKED AT IT. 68 NETS MEASURED FROM LIKE 3, FT. FROM THE FLOOR. OCTOBER, 1ST. SO I MEAN, THERE IS A. THERE'S A TIME THING, AND THAT WAS MAINLY FOR IF YOU GO BACK INTO BUILDINGS THAT HAVE BOILERS. EVEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT TURN THOSE ON. I THINK THE DATES WERE REALLY ON THAT BECAUSE THAT'S A PROCESS OF YOU GOT TO GET FIRED UP AND GOING, IT TAKES A WHILE. AND IF YOU LEFT IT ON YEAR ROUND READY, YOU'RE GOING TO BE BURNING YOUR YOU'RE GOING TO GET THAT RADIANT HEAT THAT'S GOING TO MAKE IT WORSE. THE COOL INSIDE SO YOU HAVE A POLICY SPECIFICALLY FOR HEAT, BUT NOT ONE FOR CONDITIONING. AND THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE IS THE ONLY THING THAT WE PICK UP ON THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. IT'S LIKE ALL APPLIANCES THAT ARE THERE THAT ARE PROVIDED. YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINED IF IT'S PROVIDED SUPPOSED TO BE MAINTAINED AND WORKING PROPERLY. IF YOU DID ADD SOMETHING RELATED TO AIR CONDITIONING. WOULD WE BE ABLE TO ENFORCE THAT THROUGH? I GUESS THE RENTAL REGISTRY THAT EVERYONE REGISTERED TO THAT HAS TO BE STRICTLY MAINTAINING AN AIR CONDITIONING UNIT AND HAVING THAT WITHIN THE HOUSING UNITS. I THINK YOU WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE. AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE OUT THERE WITHOUT AIR CONDITIONING. UH, I WAS A KID. I REMEMBER WE DIDN'T HAVE AIR CONDITIONING WHEN I WAS A KID AND BUT ONCE YOU GET IT, UH, YOU IT'S HARD TO GO BACK AND YOU KNOW, I DON'T I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PROPERTIES BUT I'M SURE THERE'S STILL A LOT OF PROPERTIES IN LOUISVILLE RIGHT NOW THAT HOUSING THAT PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THAT JUST HAVE WHOLE HOUSE FANS OR JUST WINDOW OPENINGS AND GOING BACK IN BECAUSE THEY DON'T RUN THAT AIR CONDITIONERS ALSO A COST AND IS THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE PREEMPTED. STATE LEVEL. NO, IT'S NOT. IT'S LOCAL SO WE CAN CHANGE IT. AND WE CAN BE STRICT ABOUT AIR CONDITIONING. THAT'S THAT'S WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND. THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT NOW. LET ME STAND. SOMEWHAT. I'VE LOOKED BACK IN. I'M NOT YOU KNOW, I KNOW ON THE BUILDING CODES ADDRESS THE HEAT. BUT IF IT FALLS BACK IN OF BEING A REQUIREMENT THAT GOES BACK IN THERE IS A PREEMPTION ABOUT A MINI AND MAXI. YOU KNOW FOR THAT, BUT I HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT. NOW THAT TO LOOK FURTHER UNDERSTAND YOUR QUESTION. I'M SURE WE LOVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THAT. SO THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS I ACTUALLY WROTE DOWN TO ASK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP BECAUSE THAT THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SECTION EIGHT UNITS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY OF LUCCA? I WANT TO SAY AROUND 10,000 THE VOUCHER, UM, REMEMBERS NOW BUT THEY INCREASED IT. IT COULD BE MORE NOW. BUT THE LAST THAT THAT I RECALL AND AH! DO YOUR NUMBER. YOUR NON SECTION EIGHT. INSPECTORS ALSO CHECK SECTION EIGHT UNITS OR YOU STRICTLY USING 12 PEOPLE TO INSPECT 10,000 UNITS. WE'RE USING THE 12 PRIMARILY, BUT HOWEVER, WHEN SOMEONE CALLED IN SICK OR VICE VERSA, WE WILL INTERMINGLE TO MEET THE TRYING TO MEET THOSE SCHEDULES. AND I [01:10:02] ASSUME THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE NON SECTION EIGHT INSPECTORS. THEY HAVE TRAINING IN THEIR EQUIPMENT . THEY KNOW HOW TO GO IN AND HANDLE THOSE, REGARDLESS. OKAY, WONDERFUL. THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. IT'S CURRENTLY UPDATING THE HOUSING NEEDS ASSESSMENT. WERE YOU INVOLVED WITH THE ORIGINAL STUDY IN 2019? I WAS AWARE OF IT, AND, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF I WAS FORMALLY INTERVIEWED WITH THE PROCESS, BUT I REMEMBER MEETING WITH THE CONSULTANTS, UH, AHEAD OF TIME THAT THEY DISCUSSED ME AND EXPLAINED DIFFERENT THINGS OF THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE AND SOME OF THE OTHER REQUIREMENTS THERE, SO I WOULD SAY. ON THAT ASPECT. I WAS, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE SMALL PART OF IT. ARE YOU INVOLVED RIGHT NOW? THAT IS BEING UPDATED. NO I'M NO ONE'S REACHED OUT AT THIS TIME. I'M AWARE OF IT. BUT OKAY, I'LL WORK ON THAT ON MY AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY'RE CHECKING TO SEE HOW MANY AVAILABLE HOUSING UNITS WE HAVE. AND IF WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE NOT COMPLIANT AND PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS. I WOULD HOPE THEY WOULDN'T COUNT THOSE TOWARDS UNITS THAT WE DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. CHAIRWOMAN. WE KNOW YOU CAN'T POST POSITIONS UNTIL OCTOBER. 1ST WE HAVE LET ME GO BACK. WE HAVE THEM POSTED AND WE ARE INTERVIEWING PEOPLE NOW FOR THOSE RENTAL REGISTRY POSITIONS, HOWEVER. WHEN WE OFFER A JOB, IT WON'T HAVE A START DATE TILL THAT OCTOBER, 1ST UNDERSTOOD. AND COULD YOU TALK TO US ABOUT EVERYTHING ELSE? YOU'RE PREPARING FOR THE RENTAL REGISTRY PROGRAM AS FAR AS EQUIPMENT PROCESSES. HOW FAR ALONG ARE YOU BEING READY? ONCE YOU HIRE FOLKS OCTOBER 1ST? WE'VE BEEN MEETING REGULARLY WITH I T, UH, WORKING ON THE UPGRADES TO THE SELL OUR SYSTEM OR COMPUTER SYSTEM THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND THEIR TIME THAT WORKING WITH THE LEAD REGISTRY TO BUILDING THAT ALL TOGETHER TO GET THE PROCESS SO IT WILL BE WORKING TOGETHER AND BE TIED SO THAT I WILL HAVE MORE EYES ON THINGS AND YOU KNOW THE ADDRESS WILL BE TIED TOGETHER. SOME THINGS WON'T BE MISSED AS EASING WHERE YOU'RE LOOKING AT DIFFERENT SYSTEMS. SO THAT'S THAT'S IN THE PROGRESS. THAT'S THAT'S MOVING FORWARD. AH ALSO, WE'RE TRYING TO HIRE OUR CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS. THAT'S BEEN CONTINUOUS POSTED. SO WE'RE FOR WE'RE GOING THROUGH THERE. WE'VE MADE SOME OFFERS TRYING TO FILL OUR OPEN POSITIONS AND FILL THOSE OTHER POSITIONS IN THE UPCOMING AH, YOU KNOW, SO THERE'S GOING TO BE ONGOING INTERVIEWS. ON THAT, AND, UH AS UP STATED BEFORE. I MEAN, NEW YORK IS THE FUNDING AND STUFF WERE RUNNING, YOU KNOW A LITTLE BIT BEHIND FROM THE ORIGINAL ORDINANCE BECAUSE THEY HAD NEVER STILL A TIGHT TIME FRAME. THAT'S SIX AND NINE MONTHS WAS A TIGHT TIME FOR HIM TO GET THIS UP AND UP AND RUNNING ANYWAY. BUT AS I'VE STATED BEFORE, AS SOON AS WE HAVE THE SYSTEM UP AND RUNNING, AND WE CAN GET A FEW INSPECTORS TRAINED. I'M NOT GONNA WAIT TILL WE GET ALL WE WILL START THOSE RANDOM INSPECTIONS. AND LAST QUESTION MY COLLEAGUE ASKED ABOUT THE PERCENTAGE OF SUCCESS RATE AS FAR AS CHECKING SECTION EIGHT UNITS. COULD YOU TALK TO US ABOUT HOW YOU'RE COMMUNICATING WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, LETTING THEM KNOW YOUR UNITS. ARE DOING REALLY AWFULLY WHEN WE GO IN AND CHECK VERSUS THE PASSING. WHAT IS THAT RELATIONSHIP LOOK LIKE? HOW ARE YOU TELLING THEM? WHAT WE SEE WHEN YOU GO IN ON THE SECTION EIGHT PROGRAM. I MEAN, WE MAKE THE INSPECTION REPORT IT BACK TO THEM AND TO THE OWNER. SO IF IT DOESN'T PASS, IT GOES BACK TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO REPROCESS AND THEN WE RESCHEDULED THE INSPECTION WHEN THEY SAY THEY'RE READY FOR IT. SO THERE'S A PROCESS THERE SO THEY ARE NOTIFIED AFTER EACH INSPECTION. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR. YOU FINISHED? OKAY? BEFORE I WANT YOU TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILWOMAN PAULA MCRANEY. BUT SHE WAS THERE A MOMENT AGO, BUT THEIR SHIP UH, WELL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN PARLIAMENT CRANE COUNCILMAN ONLY UM SO. THANK YOU. CHAIR I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS IS A DIFFICULT QUESTION, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO ASK, UM THE WOMAN THAT WAS IN ATTENDANCE TODAY TALKED ABOUT HER EXPERIENCE WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AND THERE. ABILITY TO QUICKLY RESPOND TO HER NEEDS, AND IT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE SHE WAS VERY IMPRESSED. AT ONE POINT DURING THAT PROCESS, SHE REACHED OUT TO YOU GUYS. AND I'M WONDERING FROM YOUR PERSPECTIVE. HOW YOU THINK THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS DOING IN THAT REGARD. HOW HOW, HOW THEY'RE DOING IN REGARDS TO THEIR RESPONSE RATES AND THEIR ABILITY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR RESIDENCE. I'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMPLAINTS HERE AND I DON'T THINK I'M IN THE POSITION TO GO THERE. I WOULD SAY THERE'S SOME DISCONNECT THERE THAT EITHER AH [01:15:04] , YOU KNOW THE MAINTENANCE. I KNOW EVERYTHING COSTS EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN REPORTING. THAT'S WHAT I SAID. I WOULD HAVE TO GO. I WOULD ASK. MISSILE SANKA THAT ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THE BACKSIDE TO THAT. WHAT ARE THE BUT IN ALL FAIRNESS , AND I THINK THAT'S THAT'S CORRECT. I THINK WE SHOULD ASK MR SANKOH THAT QUESTION, BUT I ACTUALLY THINK YOU'RE IN A VERY UNIQUE POSITION TO HAVE A GOOD PERSPECTIVE ON THAT. BECAUSE. YOU ARE KIND OF ONE OF THE LAST LINES OF DEFENSE FOR THE RESIDENTS. YOU KNOW, ONCE THEY'VE CONTACTED THE PROPERTY MANAGER HOUSING AUTHORITY. AND HAVE NOT FELT LIKE THEY WERE BEING LISTENED. TO THEN THEY GET TO YOU GUYS. SO IT WOULD BE INTERESTING. I GUESS, SINCE THAT'S NOT A ROLE THAT YOU ARE TYPICALLY PLAY UNLESS A COMPLAINT IS ISSUED. HOW MANY TIMES ARE YOU GETTING CALLED OUT TO HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTIES NUMBER ONE ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. AND NUMBER TWO. WHAT ARE YOU FINDING? I GUESS THAT'S WHY I THINK YOU'RE IN A UNIQUE POSITION TO ANSWER THE QUESTION. I CAN I CAN GO BACK IN, I WOULD HAVE TO RUN THE NUMBERS. ON THE COMPLAINTS, AND WE IT COMES IN SPURTS FROM ON THE HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTIES. AH! YEAH, I THINK THAT FROM FROM STAFF OF TALKING TO INSPECTORS AND STUFF WHEN THEY GO IN. WE GO TO A HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTY WE WILL GO IN. WE WANT SPECTER, THE UNIT THAT WE GOT THE COMPLAINT ON GENERAL OR VICE VERSE AND, YOU KNOW, WE NOTIFY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. SO OUR AGREEMENT WITH THEM THAT WE WORKED OUT THAT WE WOULD NOTIFY HIM THAT WE CAME IN. WE HAD EXPECTED WE HAD THIS ISSUE. TO MAKE THEM AWARE OF IT. YEAH, AND YOU KNOW, BASICALLY TELL THEM HEY. THESE ITEMS NEED TO BE FIXED AND ON THAT SIDE OF IT. THEY'VE USUALLY BEEN PRETTY RESPONDED WHEN WE'VE BEEN OUT. AH NOW IS IT UP TO SATISFACTION ON CERTAIN THINGS? I YOU KNOW, I'M I WOULD REALLY HAVE TO LOOK AT INDIVIDUAL CASE AND LOOK IN TO SEE OUR DOCUMENTS TO COMPARE IN I THINK I THINK I WOULD LOVE TO SEE HOW MANY TIMES YOU GET GUYS GET CALLED OUT TO HEALTH AUTHORITY UNITS ON AN ANNUAL BASIS BECAUSE I THINK THAT WELL, TELL US A LOT. SINCE YOU'RE NOT REQUIRED TO BE INSPECTING THOSE UNITS BECAUSE THERE THAT IS DONE BY THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, IT'S KIND OF A THIRD SEPARATE THING FROM WHAT YOU GUYS ARE SET UP TO DO. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS. I THINK THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL AND LISTEN, I AM FULLY AWARE THAT THE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS NOT FUNDED TO THE TO THE AT A PLACE WHERE THEY DON'T HAVE TO MAKE IT EXTREMELY DIFFICULT DECISIONS ON HOW THEY'RE GOING TO SPEND THEIR MONEY, SO I'M I'M NOT COMING OUT OF THIS WITHOUT BEING AWARE OF THAT. SO I'LL SAY THAT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE NUMBERS BECAUSE FOR ME THIS THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION HAS THREE VERY DIFFERENT PIECES AND THE PART THAT'S THE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROGRAM AND MAINTENANCE AND HOW THAT THAT RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE PRIVATE OWNER AND THE VOUCHER HOLDER IS A VERY DIFFERENT THING. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THOSE TWO THINGS VERY SEPARATE THAN THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WHEN IT DOES. IT'S OWN MAINTENANCE AND ITS OWN INSPECTIONS. THAT TO ME IS WHERE MY EYES HAVE BEEN OPENED SIGNIFICANTLY DURING THIS PROCESS, AND WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE FOCUS OUR TIME. NOT THAT WE NEED TO IGNORE THE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROGRAM, BUT THAT'S JUST A VERY DIFFERENT BEAST. THANK YOU EXIST. FOR THE LIFE SAFETY AND GENERAL WELFARE OF EVERYBODY AND ALL THOSE DOCUMENTS AND ALL THOSE PROPERTIES AND, UH, OUR STAFF IS OUT THERE EVERY DAY, TRYING TO DO OUR BEST TO ENSURE THAT HOWEVER SOMETIMES YOU KNOW, WE DON'T GET IN. WE DON'T GET RE PLATED AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE'RE OUT THERE EVERY DAY TRYING TO DO THE BEST WE CAN AND THINGS FROM WHEN WE'RE THERE. SIX MONTHS LATER, SOME THINGS CAN CHANGE. UH, YOU KNOW, PIPES BREAK OTHER STUFF GOES IN AND YOU KNOW IF IT IS REPORTED EVEN NEW BUILDINGS, UNFORTUNATELY AND LISTEN, WHILE I'M AT IT, I'LL SAY THAT I GREW UP IN A FAMILY WHERE MY MOTHER WAS A PROPERTY MANAGER. AND SO I UNDERSTAND PROBABLY BETTER THAN ANYONE. NO ONE LIKES THE PROPERTY MANAGER. IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW GOOD YOU ARE THEY THERE'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE. WHETHER IT'S ALWAYS YOUR FAULT WHEN THE PIPE BREAKS. IT'S ALWAYS AND IN THE UNIT UPSTAIRS IN THE WATERS COMES THROUGH THE ROOF ONTO YOUR BED, SO I UNDERSTAND AND THAT'S UNFORTUNATE AND EVERYBODY THERE'S NO THERE'S NO NO WINNER THERE AROUND THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER WHETHER IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE APARTMENT IN TOWN OR THE YOU KNOW, CHEAPEST DEPARTMENT IN TOWN. THOSE ISSUES HAPPENED AND ARE NOT ALWAYS THE PRODUCT MANAGER, AND THE DIFFERENCE IS HOW THE COMPANY RESPONDS IF THEY TAKE CARE OF IT AND MAKE THEM CORRECT, SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS ARE OUT THERE OUT THERE DOING ALL OF THAT. AND I JUST WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT SOME OF THOSE [01:20:02] DIFFERENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN. I'M SORRY. HAVE A QUESTION FOR TAMMY BEFORE I CALL YOU BACK AND LET ME GUESS. HOLD UP. AM I ASPECT? ARE YOU GOING TO ASK HIM AS QUESTION? PROBABLY OKAY. ALRIGHT GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION FROM OUR COLLEAGUE. TAMMY HAWKINS. UM UNITS THAT FAIL. WHAT DO WE DO WITH WITH THE OCCUPANTS? DO WE LEAVE HIM THERE? NO IT DEPENDS ON THE VIOLATION. WE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR WE'LL DO ORDER TO VACATE. THE CONDITIONS ARE BAD AND THINGS AREN'T BEING FIXED, DO YOU? SO THERE IS SOMEWHERE IN ORDER TO VACATE. DO YOU PLACE THEM IN THE FACILITY? UNTIL THERE WE DO NOT YOU DO NOT. WE DO NOT. WE WORK. AH YOU KNOW, WE GIVE THEM SOME MOUNTAIN SOURCES. YOU KNOW TO GO INTO SALVATION ARMY. OTHER OTHER GOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES SOMETIMES HAVE THERE'S OTHER REPLACEMENT THINGS FOR TEMPORARY HOUSING. AH OR IF IT WAS A SECTION EIGHT UNIT. USUALLY WE WORKED WITH SECTION I TRY TO FIND ANOTHER SPOT. IT WAS ONE OF THOSE THAT ARE BEING OUT. THEY TRY TO HELP THE PERSON TO BE REALLY DO TRY TO PLACE THEM IF THEY'RE IN AN UNSAFE UNIT OR WE DO NOT, BUT WE WORK WITH OTHER AGENCIES THAT HAVE THAT RESOURCES TO TRY TO HELP THEM. AS LIKE, SAID THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. SECTION EIGHT. IF THERE'S ANOTHER UNITS AVAILABLE , THEY WOULD GO THROUGH AND TRY TO GET A VOUCHER WITH ANOTHER LOCATION TO MOVE THEM. AND ANOTHER ONE. DO YOU HAVE ANY UNITS HAVE FAILED AT DOSTER MANNER. OUT OF THE SEVEN THAT I KNOW THERE WERE RECENTLY CALLED IN. AH THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY HAS BEEN ADDRESSING THOSE ISSUES AND, UH , WE'VE BEEN OUT ON THOSE. AND SO THOSE ARE STILL OPEN. THOSE HAVE NOT BEEN CORRECTED. SO SEVEN HAD NOT PASSED. THE PROPERTY MANAGERS. UM THEY ANSWER TO YOU, YOU GUYS CORRECT ? BASICALLY YOU EVER SEE THE PROPERTY MANAGERS? NO, WE DO NOT. YOU DON'T. SO THERE'S NO RECOURSE IF YOU'VE GOT A BAD PROPERTY MANAGER ONLY FOR THE ARGUMENT HAS TO GO TO COURT AND GO THROUGH ALL THE WE'RE NOT BACKING THEM UP. AH! THAT'S A DIFFERENT TIME. THAT'S A DIFFERENT PROCESS BECAUSE WE WOULD BE CITING THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY THAT PROPERTY MANAGER COULD BE TAKING CARE OF THAT, OR IF IT'S THE HOUSING AUTHORITY THAT THEY OWN. IT'S A THIRD PARTY, THEY WOULD BE ADDRESSING THAT WITH THE PROPERTY MANAGER THEN YOU NEED TO MAKE THE DISTINCTION ABOUT WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING AUTHORITY PROPERTY OR SECTION EIGHT. PROPERTY SECTION EIGHT. PROPERTY IS A PRIVATE OWNER THAT HIRES THEIR OWN PROPERTY MANAGEMENT. PROPERTY MANAGER REPORTS TO THE OWNER DOESN'T REPORT TO GOVERNMENT WHO OWNS DR MANOR, OWNED BY THE HOUSE OF PROPERTY MANAGEMENT, IN INVOLVED IN THAT . THERE'S A DIFFERENT PERSON IN EACH BUILDING AS A PROPERTY MANAGER. AND IS THAT IS THAT PERSONAL EMPLOYEE OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY OR THIRD PARTY? THEY'RE ALL EMPLOYEES OF THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. GOOD THERE IS A IS THERE WHEN THESE COMPLAINTS COME IN. IS THERE A LIST TO FIND OUT WHO WHO'S GETTING PLANING. WHAT COMPLAINTS? ARE THERE? IS IT ONGOING ISSUES? HOW DO WE DETERMINE THAT? ALWAYS ARE, I MEAN, ARE OPEN CASES TYPICALLY COME. YOU KNOW, METRO COLLEGE IS THERE UNLESS WE START THE CASE HERSELF? AH, THAT YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN REPORTED OR BEING OUT ON INSPECTION, BUT EVERYTHING TYPICALLY ON OUR COMPLAINTS ON A REGULAR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASE IS WE USE IT ON THE OPEN PORTAL. IT IS THERE. PEOPLE CALLED IN THE METRO 311. AND WE HAVE AN INSPECTOR SIGN. IF WE ALREADY HAVE A CASE THAT JUST INFORMS. WE GOT ANOTHER COMPLAINT, AND IF THERE'S SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WE'VE ALREADY BEEN OUT ON THE LOOK AT THAT. AND WE ADDRESS IT THAT WAY. SO EVERY THERE'S RECORDS ON WHEN ALL THOSE THAT ARE IN PLACE . AND THAT'S WHY WE USE METRO CALL ON A LOT OF THEM SO THAT THERE IS IT'S ALL GOING THROUGH . IT'S GETTING INTO OUR SYSTEM, AND IT'S BEING RECORDED. THANKS. YOU SAID YOU USED METRO HOLD UP, BETSY. BUT AS I TALKED TO LISA OSAKA, SHE SAYS, PEOPLE CALL METRO CARD AND THEY DON'T GET A LOT OF THOSE CALLS. AND THIS IS WHAT SHE TOLD ME. THE LAST TIME SHE WAS HERE, EVEN SHE SAID, SO I THINK WE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH METRO CALL, SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE DOING IS JUST PUSHING PERSONAL BOOK. YOU KNOW, IT AIN'T MY FAULT. IT'S METROPOLISES FAULT. AND SO ANYWAY, I FOR BETTER FOR WORSE. I HAVE TOLD ALL OF MY PEOPLE TO STOP USING METRICAL AND PROBABLY FOR WORSE BECAUSE METRO CALL IS A BLACK HOLE. AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE KNOWS THAT AND THEY'RE GONNA I TOLD THE MAYOR, WE EITHER NEED TO KILL IT ALTOGETHER OR YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IT WORK AND IT CURRENTLY DOES [01:25:02] NOT WORK. SO I'VE TOLD PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT DON'T BOTHER WITH METRO CALL UNTIL I TELL YOU DIFFERENTLY, AND IN THE MEANTIME, CALL MY OFFICE. SO THERE'S ABSOLUTELY A METRO CALL PROBLEM, AND THAT'S WHAT LISA SAYING COUNCILMAN ON ON OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CASES. I CAN'T I DON'T KNOW. WE'RE ALL OF THEM ARE NOW BUT I KNOW OURS IS FOR A LONG TIME BEEN AND WAS PROBABLY ONE OF THE FIRST THROUGH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE FOR YEARS WE WERE SET UP FOR THAT WENT IN, AND OURS WERE AUTOMATICALLY ASSIGNED. ONCE THEY CAME IN, THEY AUTOMATICALLY ASSIGNED TO HER FOLKS WHERE IT DIDN'T JUST GO TO THE AGENCY TO THE SIGN OR FALL OUT SO IF IT GOES THROUGH METRO CAR, THEY DIDN'T IT. IT GOES TO OUR INSPECTORS IT ONCE IT'S PUT IN. IT DOESN'T JUST SIT THERE. IT GOES IN THE SAND OR INSPECTORS. SO YOU FEEL LIKE IT'S STILL IT'S STILL THAT'S STILL HAPPENING. CURRENTLY, WE GET THOUSANDS. OF NEW CASES. YOU KNOW, THROUGH METRO CALL. OH, I CAN TELL. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY TIMES A DAY I CAN ONLY SPEAK FOR THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE SIDE ON THAT, BUT THAT'S THAT'S AUTOMATED AND WE WORKED WITH IT, AND THAT'S GREAT. YOU KNOW, EACH DISTRICT I MEAN, WE HAVE DEFINED AREAS FOR THE INSPECTORS AND THEY GO IN AND THEY GO RIGHT TO THE INSPECTOR. AND IF WE GET ANOTHER CALL ON THE PROPERTY WE ALREADY HAVE. THAT WILL BE CLOSED OUT, BUT IT'LL REFERS TO ATTACHES TO THE OTHER SIDE OF INSPECTOR GETS THE NEW COMPLAINTS. SO FOR CODES AND REGULATIONS CALLS, I SHOULD FEEL COMFORTABLE TELLING MY PEOPLE TO USE 311. I FEEL THAT I FEEL THAT IT IS WORKING BECAUSE JUST BASED IF WE WERE GETTING, YOU KNOW, WE AVERAGE ANYWHERE WE USED TO AVERAGE 12 TO 14,000 TO 15,000 OPEN CASES AND WE WOULD CLOSE THAT MANY OUT IN A YEAR. WE'VE BEEN WE'VE WORKED THEM DOWN 10 TO 12,000 LAST COUPLE OF YEARS, BUT. THAT'S GREAT TO KNOW, BECAUSE THAT WILL BE A FEWER CALLS TO MY OFFICE. SO WHEN IT COMES TO CODES AND REGULATIONS, I'LL FEEL COMFORTABLE TELLING THEM TO USE 311 IS SET UP THAT IT GOES IN AND WE'RE SET UP THAT AUTOMATICALLY GOES THROUGH AND THAT'S THE BEST WAY TO MAKE IT WORK. THE WHOLE THING JUST WORKED THAT WAY FOR, HOWEVER, YOU GUYS ARE SET UP. SO IT GOES TO DRINK GETS DIRECTLY ROUTED. BUT I'M SAYING OTHER DEPARTMENTS AREN'T SET UP. DON'T HAVE THEM AS MANY FIELD INSPECTORS AND STUFF THAT WERE OUT THERE AND DEAL WITH THE VOLUME THAT WE'RE I MEAN, FOR MANY, MANY OTHER THINGS. AND I HAVEN'T MADE THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN CODES AND REGULATIONS AND OTHER THINGS. I CAN'T TELL YOU. HOW MANY TIMES A DAY I HAVE PEOPLE TELL ME I HAVE REACHED OUT TO YOU KNOW, 311 METRO CALL 10 TIMES AND HAVE HEARD NOTHING BACK. IT'S NICE. IT'S AMAZING A SAY, CALL YOUR COUNCIL PERSON. THAT'S THEIR MAIN THING. IF YOU CALL 311, THEY'LL SAY, CALL YOUR COUNSEL. BRUCE HAVE CERTAINLY HAVE SPOKEN TO THE MAYOR ABOUT IT, AND I THINK THEY'RE WORKING WORKING ON COUNCILWOMAN. REALLY? OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH, HOPEFULLY A BRIEF QUESTION. SO LET ME SEE FOR YOUR OFFICE. YOU HAVE TO UNDERSTAND 12 INSPECTORS. IS THAT CORRECT? NO 12 INSPECTORS ASSIGNED TO SECTION EIGHT. OKAY 12 ARE ASSIGNED TO ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS ASSIGNED SPECIFICALLY THE SECTION EIGHT. OKAY AND HOW MANY ARE ASSIGNED TO L. MHM? WE HAVE. THAT'S YEAH, WE HAVE NONE ASSIGNED TO L. MHM PROPERTIES THAT FALLS INTO OUR OTHER INSPECTORS. 26 WHAT'S THE FLOATERS OR 20? I MEAN, WE HAVE 49 TOTAL F I'M SORRY, WESLEY. BARBARA ALRIGHT. YEAH, WE HAVE. WE HAVE 37 OTHER INSERTS. WE HAVE 49 TOTAL 12 OF THEM NEW SECTION EIGHT PROPERTIES. I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS A BIT FLAWED MEN BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ELEMENTS. JS SIGNED INSPECTORS. IT'S WHEN WE HAVE A COMPLAINT ON THEM. AJ THEN THE INSPECTORS THAT WE ALREADY HAVE GO TO THOSE AREAS AND RESPOND TO THOSE COMPLAINTS. SO IT'S TWO SEPARATE PORTIONS OF THE ENTIRE PROCESS. WELL THANK YOU FOR EXPLAINING THAT. YES, I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. SO THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE. HOW QUICKLY ARE YOU ABLE TO RESPOND TO THESE REQUESTS FOR INSPECTIONS, PARTICULARLY WHEN IT COMES TO LIKE SECTION EIGHT. SECTION EIGHT ASPECTS WE'VE. WE'VE BEEN RESPONDING ON THE INITIALS AND THE ANNUALS AND THEN WILL GET SOME CALLS. BUT THEN OTHER FOLKS WILL GO THROUGH SECTION EIGHT AS THEY MENTIONED ON SPUD ZEMAN OR VICE VERSA. IT GOES THROUGH AND THEN THEY NOTIFY US. TO GO BACK OUT ON A CERTAIN COMPLAINT OF FAVOR RECEIVED. BUT IF SOMEONE TOLD US THERE ARE OTHER ISSUES. WE WOULD WE WOULD GO OUT AND START THE SECTION EIGHT. YOU KNOW, CASE A LOT OF TIMES. SOME ARE CALLED IN METRO CALL DIDN'T GO THROUGH. AN INSPECTOR GETS OUT THERE AND SEES THAT IT HAS A SECTION EIGHT CASE ON IT. AND THEN WE'LL ADDRESS IT THROUGH THE SECTION EIGHT POLICY THAT WE FOLLOW SECTION EIGHT INSTEAD OF THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE. BUT IT EVENTUALLY IS THE SAME. ASPECT BUT I THINK IF I CALL 311 AND SAY I HAVE AN ISSUE IN MY [01:30:07] APARTMENT, WE HAVE RAMPANT MICE AND ROACHES. HOW LONG DOES IT USUALLY TAKE TO GET AN INSPECTOR OUT THERE TO CHECK ON THIS? I WOULD SAY, TYPICALLY WITHIN FIVE DAYS. OKAY THANK YOU. MIGHT BE A LITTLE MORE MIGHT BE THE THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO SAY THAT SOME MIGHT HAVE SLIPPED INTO CRACKS. BUT OUR RESPONSE TIMES, WESLEY IF IT'S ON AVERAGE, IT'S FIVE DAYS. BUT AGAIN, YOU HAVE A TWO PART QUESTION FOR THE SECTION EIGHT ONES. THOSE COMPLAINTS GO TO THE SECTION EIGHT OFFICE FIRST, THEN THIS IN THE PAPERWORK TO OUR OFFICE. AND THEN ONCE WE'VE RECEIVED THAT COMPLAINT IN OUR OFFICE, THEN WE SCHEDULED THEM USUALLY WITHIN 48 HOURS. WE HAVE A EVEN QUICKER RESPONSE TIME FOR SECTION IN COMPLAINTS THAN WE DO FOR PROBABLY AMENDMENTS COMPLAINTS, BUT KPS USUALLY 5 TO 7 DAYS, WE REALLY DO HIT FIVE DAYS ON A VAST MAJORITY OF THEM. SOMETHING LIKE HE SAID, MY FATHER, THE CRACKS, BUT OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU'RE HELPING ME UNDERSTAND THIS PROCESS? THIS IS UNFAMILIAR TO ME. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. PROBLEM, BUT I WANT TO ASK YOU SOMETHING. HAVE YOU SEEN THE PICTURES AND VIDEO OF DR MANNERS? YES MA'AM. I SAW THE NEWS REPORT. OKAY? I WOULD LIKE TO SEE YOU DO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A BLITZ. OF THAT THOSE EACH BUILDING I WOULD LIKE THAT TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S TOO MANY APARTMENTS THAT ARE JUST UNBELIEVABLE. SO I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU GUYS, YOU GOT 49 OF YOU ALL TOGETHER. DO A BLITZ OF FEELING A B C. WHICHEVER EACH ONE AT A TIME TO SEE HOW MANY APARTMENTS ACTUALLY NEED REPAIRS. AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA KNOW IF YOU GUYS GO IN THERE AND DO A BLITZ. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I WOULD I WOULD WANT A WOMAN BLITZ ON. THAT PART, PROBABLY TALKING SEVERAL BUILDINGS DISASTER MANNER. AND THREE OR SO BUILDINGS BUT ONE BUILDING AT A TIME. TRYING TO GET IN THOSE UNITS AND FOLLOWING THE TENANT. LANDLORD. YOU KNOW, ACT OF GETTING NOTICE AND TRYING TO GET IN. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THE HOUSING AUTHORITY TO GO THROUGH THEIR OWN PROPERTIES AND BUT YOU GUYS ARE INSPECTED. THAT PLACE IS UNBELIEVABLE. YOUR INSPECTORS. WE WANT TO A NUMBER BACK HOW MANY APARTMENTS YOU COULDN'T GET IN OR WHATEVER A NUMBER BACK HOW MANY YOU GOT IN AND NEEDED REPAIRS OR WHATEVER. THAT'S WHAT I WANT. LET ME GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT AND SEE IF WE CAN PULL IT OUT. BUT WE'RE MORE THAN WELCOME IF THERE'S COMPLAINTS ON UNITS THAT GO OUT RIGHT NOW, COMPLAINT. I JUST WANT TO BLITZ THE WHOLE EVERYBODY GO IN THOSE APARTMENTS. AND GET IT WORKED OUT WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WHATEVER WAY YOU WANT TO DO IT OKAY WITH THAT. BUT I JUST FEEL LIKE IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THE WAY THOSE PEOPLE ARE LIVING. IN YOU HAVE TO DO IS WRITE DOWN APARTMENT ONE WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO GET IN THERE. WENT IN APARTMENT TWO. IT WAS NEEDED REPAIRS THIS NEED REPAIRED. THAT HELPS US. TO SEE WHAT WE HAVE THERE IN FRONT OF US. ALRIGHT, I'LL GET AND THAT AND TWO THINGS WITH YOU ON THAT TO BLITZ I WANT THE NEXT ONE. I WALK MY DISTRICT. I WANT TO BLITZ ON ALL CAR REPAIRS. FLAVOR IN THAT DISTRICT AND I HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT MOVED IN. THEY GOT SET UP BUSINESSES. THEY RUNNING CARS IN THE COUNCIL. I MEAN, LINDA INSPECTORS DON'T MATTER, NOT NOTICE THEM THEY DRINK BRINGING IN THOSE FLATBEDS WERE CARS AT NIGHT. THEY LAND UP. THEY WORK AND THEY RUNNING BUSINESSES. I WANT TO BLITZ ON HOW MANY BUSINESSES ARE RUNNING BEING RUN IN MY DISTRICT, AND IT'S A LOT OF THEM. I WILL HAVE TO I CAN TAKE THAT BACK AND GET TALKED TO EMILY LU PLANNING AND DESIGN EVERY LITTLE OUT THERE. SHE CAME OUT THERE. AND THE GUY SHOOK HIS FIST AT ON, POINTED OUT AND DID LIKE THAT. SHE NEVER CAME BACK. SO THEY DO THE ZONING ENFORCEMENT CURRENTLY ON HIM. MIKE WELCH OUT THERE HE WAS WITH HIM, LEELOO. THING DO SOMEBODY'S GOTTA START DOING THEIR JOB. I DON'T KNOW WHO IT IS, BUT SOMEBODY NEEDS TO START DOING THEIR JOB. I WILL PASS THAT ALONG TO RIGHT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO HELP SOMEBODY COME OUT TO A BLITZ OF MY WHOLE DISTRICT ON CAR REPAIR SHOPS. IN IN HOUSES. HOW MANY FLATBED IN THE DISTRICT AND I MEAN, SURELY NOT GOING TO GET HURT BECAUSE THEY GOT CARS UPON THESE. AND IF KIDS ARE THEY SEE THOSE CARS UP ON THESE FLATBEDS? THEY'RE GONNA GET OVER AND MEDDLE WITH HIM. WHAT HAPPENS IF THEY START ROLLING OFF AND HURT SOMEBODY, AND I HAVE A LOT OF THEM IN MY DISTRICT. THE POLICE SAID. THEY [01:35:01] CAN'T DO IT. YOU GUYS GOT TO DO IT. SO I WANT THAT DONE. BUT FIRST I WANT THAT'S COMMANDER. I WILL GET BACK WITH YOU ON. DON'T CARE HOW Y'ALL DO IT. WE CAN DO THAT. I JUST WANTED DONE EACH APARTMENT. THANK YOU CAN'T GET IN THERE. JUST GET A SHEET RIGHT DOWN, REFUSED TO LET US IN YOU. THE NEXT ONE CEILING WAS FALLING IN THE FLOOR WAS WHAT ELSE? AND THAT'S THE ONLY WAY WE'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO GET TWO DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THIS AND GET THESE DEPARTMENTS TO PREPARE. BECAUSE AFTER YOU LOOKED AT IT ON TV LIKE HE LIVED THERE, NAN YEARS IN THE HOLE UNDER HER SINK AND EVERYTHING. NO TELLING WHAT WAS LIVING IN THAT WEATHER. AND SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. THESE ARE SENIORS. THESE ARE A HANDICAPPED PEOPLE. THAT'S YOU GUYS JOB. WE DO THE BEST WE CAN TO DO OUR JOB, BUT WE CAN'T DO OUR JOB WITHOUT YOU GUYS. IF YOU'RE NOT BACKING ME WHEN THIS PERSON HAS THIS HIGH GRASS, I CAN'T GET NOTHING DONE. WE'RE NOT. POLICE OFFICERS WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE. AND BUT THIS IS WHAT I WANT. AND I WANT YOU TO BRING IT BACK TO ME. I'M NOT GETTING YOUR DON'T WANT NEXT YEAR. I WON'T SOON AS POSSIBLE. SO WE CAN DO SOMETHING ABOUT WE WILL LOOK INTO THAT AND REACH OUT TO THE HOUSING AUTHORITY AND HOUSING AUTHORITY. WHOEVER YOU HAVE TO REACH OUT TO THE MAYOR. GOVERNOR I DON'T CARE. I THINK WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO DO IT. AND THIS IS WHAT YEAH, I GOT 49 GUYS . 49 GASKET KNOCKDOWN, EACH ONE OF THEM BUILDINGS. NO. OKAY, I'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH YOU. OKAY AND WHAT IT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG JOB. OUR JOB IS A BIG JOBS. SO ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? OKAY? I THINK THAT WAS TOO ROUGH FOR THE BLITZ. NO IT'S NOT. IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE. IT'S BEEN DONE BEFORE. REMEMBER OUT AND DAVID JAMES DISTRICT, THEY HAD APARTMENT COMPLEX THAT WAS REALLY BAD. AND HE HAD A BLITZ COME OUT THERE, AND NONE OF Y'ALL REMEMBER Y'ALL KNEW. DO YOU REMEMBER AND CAME OUT THERE ? I MEAN, THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE THEN THAT DEPARTMENTS LOOK SO MUCH NICER NOW. HE SENT ME PICTURES OF IT, SO AND I WANT THE SAME THING. BUT THAT'S COMMANDER BECAUSE IT'S UNBELIEVABLE THE WAY IT LOOKS IN THE INSIDE. AND NONE OF US HERE WOULD WANT TO LIVE IN IN THAT PLACE, NOT EVEN OVERNIGHT. OKAY? I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK THAT'S ASKING TOO MUCH. I THINK WE JUST DOING OUR JOB. OKAY? ALRIGHT IF WE DON'T HAVE ANY MORE QUESTIONS, MR. UH UKRAINIAN. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO SAY? ARE YOU OKAY? YOU'RE OKAY. ALRIGHT. ANDREW BETSY. OKAY, WELL, WE ARE . WE ARE IN TURN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.