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IT WAS A LIVELY DISCUSSION. COUNCILMAN. NO ONE DID YOU LEAVE A CELL PHONE IN THE CHAMBER? I WAS WONDERING WHERE THAT WAS. YOUR WIFE JUST TYPE. CAN SOMEONE PUT THAT IN MY OFFICE FOR ME, PLEASE? SOMETHING ABOUT STOPPING GETTING SOME MILK. IT ACTUALLY, I'M PRETTY SURE IT WAS SOMETHING VERY SOON. KYLE'S GRABBING.ALRIGHT THIS IS THE REGULAR SCANDAL MEETING. THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE PRESENT IN
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HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. WE'RE GONNA HIT ITEM NUMBER TWO FIRST, WHICH IS A RESOLUTION.THEN WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO TABLE THE AUDIENCE PERTAINING TO THE SALE OF DOGS AND CATS BY RETAIL PET STORES. AH THERE HAS BEEN NO FILING YET OF THE PROPOSED CHANGES, SO THEY'RE NOT BEEN STARTED YET. SO WE WERE MERELY HAVE TWO SPEAKERS TODAY REGARDING THAT ONE PARTY WILL BE SPEAKING. I BELIEVE IN FAVOR THE AUDIENCE. ONE PARTY WILL BE SPEAKING. UH, OPPOSITE OF THAT.
AND THEN FROM THERE, WE'RE GONNA MOVE TO RE TABLE, OKAY? SO LET'S SKIP GOING WITH THE FIRST ITEM BEING ITEM NUMBER TWO R DASH 088-23 RESOLUTION PURSUIT OF THE CAPITAL OPERATING BUDGET ORDINANCE APPROVING THE APPROPRIATION TO FUND THE FOLLOWING NONCOMPETITIVE NEGOTIATE PROFESSIONAL SERVICE CONTRACT FOR THE CORRECTION CONCERNING MANAGEMENT OF THE X JAIL SOFTWARE SYSTEM. IS THERE A MOTION. PROBABLY BEFORE US. IS THERE SOMEBODY TO SPEAK TO THAT.
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CHIEF COLLINS. CHIEF COLLINS, LOCAL METRO DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS. UM JERRY JONES. I'M SORRY. YES, THIS IS A SOLE SOURCE CONTRACT FOR BETSY HELM. BETSY HAS BEEN, UM EMPLOYED BY METRO PREVIOUS 2012. SHE WAS ON THE EXHALE TRANSITION TEAM IN 2015. SHE WAS HIRED BY SECURE US , UM AS ADMINISTRATOR FOR X JAIL . CURRENTLY EXHALE IS ENDING IN OF LIFE ON THE CONTRACT, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW THE CONTROLLED THAT JAIL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM AND WILL BE TRANSITIONING. HER POSITION WAS ELIMINATED WITH SECURE US SO SHE WILL HELP WITH DATA MIGRATION TRANSITION. UM AT THE BEGINNING AS WE GO THROUGH AND TRANSIT, SOME PERMITS JAIL TO OUR NEW JAIL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM.ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR ONE OF THE COMMITTEE. I'M NOT WATCHING IT, SO I JUST GOT TO CHIME IN. THEY HAD A QUESTION, MR. CHAIR QUESTION. WHY? UM AND YOU KNOW, I'M GOING TO START ASKING THIS QUESTION WHENEVER I SEE SOME SOURCE CONTRACT OR NON COMPETITIVELY BID CONTRACT, CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT'S THE CASE HERE? YES UM, KIND OF LIKE WHAT I SPOKE TO BEFORE SHE HAS THE INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, BE ABLE TO CHANGE TO DO MAINTENANCE AND, UM DATA AND OUR MIGRATION OF OUR WHOLE SYSTEM OVER INTO OUR NEW JAIL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. UM, LIKE SHE'S BEEN ON THE TEAM SINCE 2012 AND THEN BEEN THE SOLE SOURCE FOR WELL, THAT'S PROBABLY WRONG WORD. THE PERSON THAT HAS BEEN, UM, THE JAIL MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ADMINISTRATOR FOR THE COURSE SINCE 2015 SO, UM, INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THAT SHE HAS, AS WE HAVE TO CONTINUE OPERATIONS WHILE WE TRANSITION TO THE NEW SYSTEM IS INVALUABLE AND NOT AVAILABLE WITHIN THE COMPOUNDS OF OUR AGENCY. THANK YOU, JIM. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. HERE. QUESTION QUESTION AWAY. UM. COLLINS. HOW LONG IS THAT TRANSITION? I DIDN'T YOU MAY HAVE SAID IT. BUT HOW LONG IS THAT TRANSITION? YOU EXPECT IT TO TAKE EXPECT TO START EARLY PART OF THIS YEAR IN JANUARY AND HOPEFULLY BE COMPLETE. NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT MY T STUFF. SO YOU KNOW HOW THAT GOES. IT'S GONNA BE A TOUGH TRANSITION. HOPEFULLY, MARCH APRIL TO BE COMPLETE ON THAT. JUST UH, MARK SO, STARTING . SORRY I'M SLOW. CAN YOU SAY THAT AGAIN, STARTING WHEN AND FINISHING WHEN WE WERE QUITE WE CURRENTLY HAVE TO WORK WITH METRO A T. SO THEY HAVE A PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO GO THROUGH DECEMBER, SO WE'RE LOOKING TO START TO TRANSITION, UM, IN JANUARY, AND THEY'RE ESTIMATING THAT, UM, MARCH OR APRIL WE SHOULD BE COMPLETE.
OKAY SO WE'RE TALKING THE FIRST FEW MONTHS OF NEXT YEAR, BUT BEFORE THE END OF THE FISCAL YEAR, CORRECT GREAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS. FOR THE RECORD. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNSELING HAWKINS. THIS IS A RESOLUTION REQUIRES A VOICE VOTE, ALSO NEVER SAID I MEAN OPPOSITION OPPOSITION THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. IT SHOULD BE SENT TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.
DIRECTOR COLLINS THANK YOU FOR ATTENDANCE HERE TODAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA IS GOING TO BE THE ITEM NUMBER ONE WHICH AGAIN WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING TO UNTIL ABLE HEAR FROM TWO SPEAKERS. SEE IF WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS AT THAT POINT, IF NOT THEN RE TABLE AND CONTINUE TO WAIT FOR THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN REFERENCED AND MENTIONED AT THE LAST MEETING THAT STILL HAVE NOT BEEN SIRED AND PUTTING OUR SYSTEM, OKAY? SO, UH, ITEM NUMBER 10-193 DASH 23 AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE LITTLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER 91 PROHIBITING THE SALE OF DOGS AND CATS BY RETAIL PET STORES OR EMOTIONAL TABLE.
OCEAN. IS THERE A SECOND? ONE OF THE OTHER FANTASTIC ADAMS UNTENABLE IS PROPERLY BEFORE US . WE'VE GOT TWO SPEAKERS HERE TODAY. ONE I BELIEVE IS A NINA SCOTT. SCOTT, IF YOU WANT TO COME FORWARD IF YOU IDENTIFY YOURSELF AT THE PODIUM FOR THE RECORD, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, MADAM. NEMA SCOTT, PRESIDENT OF GRANT OKAY? GOOD EVENING COUNCIL. MEN AND WOMEN.
THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO TESTIFY AND SUPPORT FOR THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE REQUIRED REQUIRING HUMANE SOURCE FOR THE SALE OF DOGS AND CATS. THROUGH RETAIL PET STORES. ON BEHALF OF ALL THE INDIVIDUAL SUPPORTING THIS ORDINANCE. I WANT TO ALSO EXTEND OUR SINCERE THANKS THE COUNCILMAN BENSON, WHO IS NOT HERE TONIGHT FOR SPONSORING THIS ORDINANCE, AND SUPPORTING SUCH AN IMPORTANT CAUSE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY, AND ULTIMATELY PROVIDING LEADERSHIP GUIDANCE TO OUR COMMONWEALTH. MY NAME IS NINA SCOTT. I'VE BEEN PRESIDENT GRANT FOR OVER SIX YEARS. I WAS FIRST INVOLVED WITH GRAND, WHICH IS A NON 501 C NONPROFIT GOLDEN RETRIEVER RESCUE MOUTHFUL HERE IN LOUISVILLE, KENTUCKY. SOMEWHERE FOUNDING MEMBERS ARE HERE BEHIND ME. JAMESTOWN TAG.
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UM, WE HAVE BEEN IN WE HAVE BEEN RESCUING FOR OVER 25 YEARS. AND I'M PROUD TO SAY WE HAVE RESCUED OVER 5000 DOGS SINCE STARTING OVER 25 YEARS AGO. I MYSELF ADOPTED MY FIRST DOG IN 2007, AND WAS SO IMPRESSED THE GROUP THAT I VOLUNTEERED RIGHT OUT OF COLLEGE. AND HERE I AM TODAY. UM AT THE RECENT MEETING COMMITTEE MEETING HELD ON AUGUST 15TH SPEAKERS PROVIDED YOU WITH INFORMATION REGARDING SHELTER, OVERPOPULATION. EUTHANASIA RATES , HEALTH RELATED COSTS TO NOT ONLY RESCUES SHELTERS. BUT THE CONSUMERS WHO BUY THESE PUPPIES AND CATS FROM PUPPY MILL BREEDERS THIS EVENING. I WANT TO EXPAND ON THE CONDITIONS IN WHICH THE THESE ANIMALS COME AND ARE RAISED AND KEPT IN CAPTIVITY AT THESE PUPPY MILL LOCATIONS BECAUSE I HAVE RESPECT FOR TIME . I KNOW YOU'VE ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED WITH ENOUGH FACTS AT THE LAST MEETING. JUST A LITTLE BACKGROUND THE CURRENT STANDARDS OF CARE FOR GOVERNING CATS AND DOGS AND OTHER ANIMALS FALLS UNDER THE ANIMAL WELFARE ACT. THIS IS OVER, SOUGHT BY THE UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURE. AND THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR MAKING SURE EVERY PUPPY MALL COMMERCIAL BREEDER GETS LICENSE AND IF THEY HAVE MORE THAN FIVE FEMALE BREEDING FEMALES, THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LICENSED. AND UM , ACROSS THE COUNTRY. WE ALL KNOW THIS IS NOT THE CASE. IT'S VERY HARD TO REGULATE AND ENFORCE THESE STANDARDS SET FORTH BY THE W. A. UM. EVEN THE FURTHER THIS REGULATION. THE A W A STANDARDS OF CARE ARE VERY, UM, OUTDATED. MOST THEIR STANDARDS WE WOULD NOT CONSIDER DEFINITELY NOT CONSIDERED AS SHE MAIN, UM I WANT TO TOUCH ON JUST THREE OF THEM. THE TOP ONES THAT KIND OF STICK OUT IN MY MIND. THEY ALLOW PUPPY MILLS TO CONFINE DOGS IN CAGES 21ST 7 THEIR ENTIRE LIVES. THEY DO NOT HAVE TO TAKE THEM OUTSIDE. GIVE THEM BREAKS, THEY ARE ALLOWED TO STICK THEM IN A CAGE THEIR WHOLE LIFE. THEY HAVE VERY LITTLE INTERACTION FOR CARE. SO FEEDING AND BREEDING IS REALLY SOMETIMES ONLY HUMAN INTERACTION THEY EVER GET. UM, THE CAGES THEMSELVES ARE ONLY REQUIRED TO BE SIX INCHES. TALLER. ALL AROUND THE PUPPY. SO IF YOU CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT IF WE HAD TO LIVE OUR ENTIRE LIVES IN A CRATE WITH ONLY SIX INCHES OF SPACE OR OFFICE. UM THAT IS THE STANDARD THAT THEY ALLOW. THERE THERE IS NO STANDARD IN HOW MANY CASES ARE STACKED WIRE MESHING IS USED , UM THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE COVERED FOR INCLEMENT WEATHER. HOT COLD RAIN, SNOW, YOU NAME IT. THERE'S NO STANDARDS CURRENTLY TO PROTECT THEM FROM ANY OF THAT. SO WHILE THESE REGULATIONS ARE OUTDATED, UM A LOT OF THIS LEADS TO WHAT WE SPOKE ABOUT AT THE LAST HEARING WITH HEALTH ISSUES BEHAVIOR ISSUES BECAUSE WHEN YOU RAISE THESE DOGS AND THESE STANDARDS FROM AS A NONPROFIT WHERE WE'RE USED TO DEALING WITH THE END, WHEN WE GET SOME OF THESE DOGS, THIS IS WHAT WE SEE. THIS IS WHAT THE COMMUNITY DEALS WITH AS FAR AS COST. STUDY WITH HEALTHCARE. UM SICKNESS, BEHAVIOR ISSUES AND SOMETIMES EUTHANASIA JUST BECAUSE WE CAN'T REHABILITATE EVERY DOG, UNFORTUNATELY, COMES INTO OUR PROGRAM AS A RESCUE. UM. AS A RESULT OF THESE STANDARDS MORE SO FOR SMALLER DOGS, UH WE OFTEN SEE THEY HAVE SO MANY PHYSICAL AILMENTS. THEY DON'T GIVE THAT CARE, UM WHEN THEY'RE STACKED WHEN WIRE CAGES URINE FECES DAILY, YOU KNOW, DRAINED FROM, HOWEVER MANY THERE, STACKS OF THESE DOGS SOMETIMES COME TO US WITH BURNS. SKIN BURNS ISSUES ARE PREVALENT. FROM ALL OF THIS . THEY HAVE LYNN LIMB DEFORMITIES BECAUSE THEIR THEIR PAWS AND THEIR LEGS SOMETIMES GET CAUGHT IN THE WIRE MESH. UM AND BECAUSE THERE'S TYPICALLY THESE SMALL DOGS ARE PACKED SO TIGHTLY IN THESE CAGES. UM YOU KNOW IF THEY BITE OR GET STUCK AT ALL, YOU KNOW THE LIMBS CAN COME OFF AND CAUSE FURTHER DAMAGE. UM GRANT. UNFORTUNATELY OUR RESCUE KNOWS FIRSTHAND. UM ALL ABOUT THIS. WE REALLY CONNECTED WITH ANOTHER GROUP IN OHIO, WHICH IS THE HEART OF PUPPY MILL COUNTRY, THE MIDWEST. AND THEY WERE IN SUCH DIRE NEED IN THE STATE OF OHIO. THEY PRESIDENT OHIO RESCUE THEIR REACH OUT TO ME PERSONALLY AND SAID, CAN YOU HELP US? WE HAVE THIS PUPPY MILL. WE'RE SHUTTING DOWN AND WE HAVE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF DOGS THAT WE HAVE NOWHERE TO PUT THEM. THAT'S REALLY HOW GRAND BECAME INVOLVED IN THE PUPPY MILL WORLD. UM WE HAVE SET RECORDS THIS PAST YEAR WITH RESCUING OVER 140 DOGS, WHICH IS YOU KNOW, I ADMIRE WITH OUR GROUP. BUT I KNOW IT'S ALSO TELLS YOU IT'S A PROBLEM. UM[00:40:05]
WITH HOW MANY DOGS WE TOOK IT BECAUSE TYPICALLY, WE WILL RESCUE PLACE ABOUT 250 DOGS A YEAR INTO HOME. SO FOR US TO HAVE 140, JUST FROM PUPPY MILLS THIS PAST YEAR IS ASTONISHING, AND IT'S BEEN VERY HARD FOR OUR RESCUE. WE'RE NONPROFIT. ALL VOLUNTEER. SO THE BUDGET ALONE WE HAVE PROBABLY SPENT OVER $150,000 IN VET CARE BEHAVIOR ISSUES BOARDING. TRYING TO DO ALL WE CAN TO BRING THESE DOGS IN, BECAUSE IF WE DON'T THEY WILL BE. THEY WILL BE KILLED.BUT YOU THE BREEDER, OR UNFORTUNATELY, THE METRO AT THE TIME, BECAUSE IF THERE'S NOWHERE FOR THESE DOGS TO GO, THEY PUT THEM DOWN. SO WE HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND THE DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS, THESE DOGS LIVING AND AFTERMATH OF WHAT WE AS A RESCUE HAVE OR HAVING TO PULL OUR RESOURCES TO HELP REHABILITATE THESE DOGS AND GET THEM WELL. THROW THAT. UM AND EVEN THE JOURNAL OF AMERICAN VETERINARIAN MEDICAL ASSOCIATION , WHICH I HAD SENT THIS IF YOU DON'T HAVE A COPY, I HAVE A COPY OF THESE PUBLICATIONS. THEY HAVE CONFIRMED AND HAVE PLENTY OF STUDIES THAT CORRELATE BEHAVIOR AND HEALTH CONCERNS WITH DOGS COMING FROM PUPPY MILL SITUATIONS. UM IN ADDITION TO THE DEPLORABLE CONDITIONS THAT PUPPY MILLS BREATHE THEIR DOGS AND. YOU KNOW, I WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE BACKGROUND OF JUST WHAT A GOOD REPUTABLE BREEDER DOES. WE ARE GOING TO A RESCUE, BUT WE ACTUALLY WORKED CLOSELY WITH THE GOLDEN RETRIEVER BREEDING CLUB HERE LOCALLY BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST THERE'S A PURPOSE FOR BREEDING, AND THAT IS THE KEEP THE BREED. UM CONSISTENT FREE OF GENETIC DISORDERS AND HEALTH RESOURCES.
THERE IS A PLACE FOR BREEDING AND IN THIS WORLD, SO THE RESCUE WE ACTUALLY WORKED CLOSELY WITH SOME OF THOSE REALLY GOOD BREEDERS, SO WE ARE NOT ANTI BREEDING. UM SO GOOD BREEDER WILL TYPICALLY WAIT TWO YEARS TO BREED A FEMALE. THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE SHE'S HEALTHY AND THE GENETICS COME BACK AND THERE'S NOTHING WRONG WITH HIPS BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT THAT PASSED ALONG TWO LITTERS AND ULTIMATELY PASSED ALONG TO THE CONSUMER WHO ADOPTS THAT DOG OR PURCHASES THAT DOG THEY ALSO ONLY BREED ONCE A YEAR. UM AND THEY USUALLY RETIRED THE FEMALE AT AGE SIX.
BECAUSE AFTER THAT, THEN YOU PICK UP MORE HEALTH ISSUES JUST LIKE US AS WOMEN OR NOT HAVING BABIES AT 60. THERE'S A REASON IT JUST IT'S NOT VIABLE. BUT PUPPY MILLS DO NOT ABIDE BY THIS. THEY WILL BREED A DOG UNTIL SHE CAN NO LONGER CARRY A LITTER AT THAT POINT. THAT'S ONE OF THE RESCUE. WE HOPE WE ARE CONTACTED HER MADE AWARE OF THIS, BECAUSE THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY PULL THAT DOG AND RESCUE HER. UM I PERSONALLY ONE OF MY GOLDEN IN THE PAST, ROSIE , UM, CAME FROM THE SITUATION. SHE WAS 10. BY THE TIME WE WERE ABLE TO RESCUE HER, AND WHEN WE GOT TO HER, SHE HAD BEEN KEPT OUTSIDE IN A CAGE. HER WHOLE LIFE BREEDING. UM IT WAS THE MIDDLE OF WINTER. I'LL NEVER FORGET, AND HER ONLY SOURCE OF WATER WAS FROZEN OVER. SHE HAD NO COVERAGE IN HER CAGE AND HER TEETH WERE ALL BROKEN OFF FROM HER TRYING TO BITE OVER THE YEARS, THE CAGE I SEEM TO GET OUT. SHE COULDN'T SHE HAD JUST HAD HER LAST LITERATE AGE 10 AND SHE WAS ABLE TO GIVE HER A LOVING FOR YEARS THAT WE HAVE HAD WITH HER. BUT I WILL NEVER FORGET THOSE CONDITIONS THAT WE TOOK HER FROM AND THAT STUCK WITH ME AND THESE CASES THAT YOU KNOW, AS KENTUCKY WE NEED TO DO BETTER TO HELP THOSE ROSES IN THE WORLD. UM YOU KNOW, ANIMALS HAVE A PURPOSE. WE USE THEM FOR SERVICE DOGS FOR THERAPY. MY CHILDREN HAVE A DOG, A GOLDEN RETRIEVER IN THEIR SCHOOL FOR COMFORT DOG. SO THEY DO SO MUCH GOOD IN OUR WORLD. SO FOR US TO ALLOW PUPPY MILLS TO THRIVE AND TO HOW THESE DOGS THESE CONDITIONS IS PRETTY ASTONISHING TO ME. RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO THE U. S. STATE ANIMAL PROTECTION LAWS RANKING REPORT PUBLISHED BY THE ANIMAL LEGAL DEFENSE FUND. I GAVE YOU A COPY OF THIS AS WELL. THERE ARE NON PROFIT GROUP THAT IS AN ADVOCATE FOR ALL ANIMALS, WHICH IS WHAT I LOVE NOT JUST DOGS AND CATS AND THEY ARE YOU THERE. BASICALLY LAWYERS WHO DEVOTE THEIR TIME TO IMPLEMENTING LAWS TO HELP ANIMAL WELFARE. BUT THEY PUT OUT A REPORT EVERY YEAR, RANKING STATES ACROSS THE COUNTRY FOR ANIMAL WELFARE RIGHTS, AND KENTUCKY IS CONTINUED. UNFORTUNATELY TO BE IN THE LOWEST PART OF THIS, THEY WERE RANKED IN 2020 REPORTERS 45TH IN THE COUNTRY. UM SO I KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. I KNOW KENTUCKY HAS IT IN HIM TO STRIVE TO JOIN THE REST OF THE STATES THAT ARE MOVING UP IN THIS LIST EVERY YEAR. UM HARLEY'S DREAM THAT ORG ACTUALLY LISTED SOME STATES, CALIFORNIA, MAINE, MARYLAND AND RECENTLY NEW YORK, WHICH IS A BIG PUPPY MILL STATE ACTUALLY
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JUST PASSED THIS PAST NOVEMBER, A BAN ON ALL SALES OF PUPPIES FROM PUPPY MILLS STORES. PUPPY MILLS, UM AND THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT IN 2024. SO NEW YORK WILL BE THE FIRST STATE TO JOIN.THERE ARE CURRENTLY 321 CITIES AND A NUMBER OF OTHER DISTRICTS THAT HAVE PASSED SIMILAR ORDINANCES THAT WE ARE PRESENTING TO YOU TODAY. FURTHERMORE COUNCILMAN MCRANEY I DO I KNOW I DON'T THINK SHE'S PRESENT TODAY, BUT I DO WANT TO GIVE HER PRAISE FOR CO SPONSORING THE LINK ORDINANCE WITH COUNCILMAN MARYLAND PARKER , WHO IS OVERSEAS, MY DISTRICT THIS DATA WAS PUBLISHED AS STRONG LINKING ANIMAL ABUSE TO CHILD DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, AND I LOVE THE FACT THAT SHE TOUCHED ON THAT, AND SHE IS PROPOSED AND SUPPORTED. A TRAINING PROGRAM FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TO LINK THIS AND LOOK INTO MORE WHEN THEY ENTER PROPERTY AND THERE'S OBVIOUSLY ANIMAL ABUSE. THERE MAY BE SOMETHING ELSE GOING ON INSIDE THE HOME, SO I REALLY APPLAUD HER FOR THAT. AND YOU KNOW, LASTLY, I DO WANT TO TOUCH ON THE LAST MEETING THERE WAS PUSHED BACK AS FAR AS HINDERING BUSINESS. UM I CANNOT AGREE WITH YOU MORE AS FAR AS BEING HESITANT WITH HINDERING BUSINESS. I'M A LOCAL BUSINESS OWNER. I HAVE A MEDICAL RESEARCH COMPANY. WE DO CLINICAL TRIALS FOR NEW DRUGS, AND WE COLLECT DATA TO SUBMIT TO THE FDA FOR APPROVAL FOR PRESCRIPTIONS. AND UM SO I'M NOT ONLY AN ANIMAL ACTIVIST ON THE ON THE RESCUE SIDE, I'M ALSO A PROMINENT BUSINESS OWNER IN TOWN. AND SO I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES. BUT ONE THING I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS THAT WE AS SUPPORTERS OF THIS ORDINANCE ARE NOT AGAINST BUSINESS. WE'RE NOT HERE TO HINDER BUSINESS, BUT WITH ALL THAT BEING SAID, EVERY INDUSTRY THAT WE HAVE RIGHT NOW THERE ARE REGULATIONS THAT ARE PUT IN PLACE FOR ANY INDUSTRY. FOOD UM, TRAVEL HOSPITALS, DEFINITELY MY INDUSTRY. AND. THEY'RE THERE FOR A REASON. THEY'RE NOT TO HINDER BUSINESS, BUT THEY'RE THERE TO PROTECT THE CONSUMER ULTIMATELY , AND SO IN MY BUSINESS, YOU KNOW, I COMPARE THIS ORDINANCE TO IF YOU HAD A LOCAL PHARMACY THAT YOU HEARD WAS GETTING PRESENTS SHOOT WAS GIVING PRESCRIPTIONS. UM, TO CONSUMERS OFF THE BLACK MARKET. AND NOT GOING THROUGH THE REGULATED MANUFACTURERS AND DEVELOPERS OF THOSE DRUGS THEY WERE BUYING ON THE BLACK MARKET. I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SHUT THAT BUSINESS DOWN RIGHT AWAY BECAUSE OF WHERE THEY'RE SOURCING THEIR PRESCRIPTIONS FROM. IT'S NOT ABOUT ANTI BUSINESS IS ABOUT PUTTING IN THE ETHICAL REGULATIONS TO MAKE BUSINESS EDITOR RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT THEY'RE CONDUCTING IN OUR CITY AND IN OUR STATE AS A WHOLE. UM SO I'M JUST BASICALLY IN THE END. I JUST WANT TO SAY, I THINK THE MAJORITY OF US WANT BUSINESS TO THRIVE, BUT WE WANT IT TO BE DONE AT THE COMMANDER IN THE RIGHT WAY, AND I THINK FORCING PET STORES TO SOURCE THEIR ANIMALS FROM A DIFFERENT AVENUE. OTHER THAN A PUPPY MILLS THAT WE KNOW ARE NOT THE COAL CAUSED SO MUCH MONEY AND HEALTH CONCERNS. IT'S JUST THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND I HOPE THAT WHEN WE GET THIS REPORT FOR THE STATE RANKINGS IN 2023 THAT KENTUCKY IS WRITTEN AS A TOP STATE TO MAKE CHANGES FOR THE BETTER IN THE END, IT'S GOOD FOR OUR COMMUNITY, AND IT'S GOOD FOR THE CONSUMER. SO THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IN ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS FOR THE SPEAKER? COUNCILOR MR CHAIRMAN, THE MUNICH YOU GO AHEAD. I'M NOT LOOKING AT THE Q.
SO JUST JUMP IN. DO THAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING IN. UH A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. NUMBER ONE. DO YOU HAVE A COPY OF THAT NEW YORK ORDINANCE? THE WHAT COPY? DID YOU HAVE A COPY OF THE PAST NEW YORK ORDINANCE DO NOT HAVE THE OFFICIAL ORDINANCE. BUT I AT WORK. I DO NOT WITH ME, BUT I CAN PULL THAT. AND I'M HAPPY TO EMAIL EMAIL THAT TO YOU. WOULD YOU PLEASE WOULD APPRECIATE THAT ABSOLUTELY MOST. MOST IMPORTANTLY TO ME PERSONALLY, I THINK THAT EVERYBODY THAT I'VE SPOKEN WITH IN SENTIMENT IS, YOU KNOW WE LIKE THE IDEA OF THIS. MY CONCERNS ARE WITH ENFORCEMENT. MY BIGGEST CONCERN IS. THAT WE'RE NOT THAT WERE POTENTIALLY PENALIZING THE PEOPLE ON THE BACK END RATHER THAN GOING AT THE SOURCE, WHICH IS THE PUPPY MILLS THEMSELVES. SO I'M KIND OF CURIOUS AS THEY HAD NEW YORK ADDRESSES THAT AND SOME OF THESE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES. WELL THEY'RE TAKING THE APPROACH. UM, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE REPLICATING IS THAT I KIND OF DON'T COMPARED TO IS THE WAR ON DRUGS? ILLEGAL DRUGS? YES DO WE WANT TO GO AFTER THE DRUG LORDS THAT ARE SOURCING THE DRUGS AND THE DEALERS. ABSOLUTELY THERE.
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
THE OLD ORDINANCE. MY ARGUMENT IS THAT WAS A GOOD ORDINANCE. AND AS A GOOD FOUNDATION. WHY WOULD WE MOVE TO A NEGATIVE, RESTRICTIVE ORDINANCE? YOU KNOW, YOU CAN'T SELL PUPPIES. THANK YOU. OH INSTEAD OF BUILDING UP A GROWTH, POSITIVE GROWTH. ADDING TO THE ORDINANCE THAT EXISTING UM THE HUMANE SOCIETY. AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU I HAVEN'T FOUND A GOOD DEFINITION FOR PUPPY MILL YET. BUT I'M SURE I'LL GET THAT INFORMATION SOON. AND THERE'S A LOT OF INFORMATION OUT THERE THAT KIND OF CONFLICTS YOURSELF. HUMANE SOCIETY CLAIMS 10,010,000 PUPPY MILLS. 2 2,400,000. BUT WHEN YOU GO TO YOUR THEIR WEBSITE THEY WANT YOU TO CALL THE C. D. C. BECAUSE THEY'RE GETTING READY TO RESTRICT THE NUMBER OF RESCUE DOGS THAT ARE IMPORTED TO THE UNITED STATES TO BE PUT INTO THE RESCUE DOG SYSTEM. SO THAT OKAY, THAT'S A RED FLAG FOR ME. DO WE HAVE A CRISIS OR WE'RE GOING TO BRING ALL THE DOGS IN AND MAKE IT WORSE. UM THE, UH I WENT OUT. I SPOKE TO, UH AH! I DID CALL PUPPY GRAHAM. I SAID, LET'S GO RIGHT AND HEAR IT STRAIGHT FROM THE MOUTH, YOU KNOW. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, THIS IS NOT ONE OF MY, UH, ARGUMENTS THAT I GET INTO, UM I CHECKED THE USA. KENTUCKY IS VERY LAX AND LICENSING. AH! ROYAL FARMS ARE PRETTY MUCH ALLOWED TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT. AH YOU CAN GET A SICK PUPPY FROM A READER JUST AS AS YOU CAN GET A SICK PUPPY FROM A PET STORE, I GUESS. UM BUT WHEN YOU GET INTO THIS THIS OLD ORDINANCE THAT WAS EXISTING. UH WE'RE THROWING AWAY SOME STRONG BUILDING BLOCKS.
CONSUMER EDUCATION. EAT. RETAIL PET STORE. WAS AH! HAS TO GIVE OUT. UH, COPY OF THIS ORDINANCE.
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OR IS SICK. NOW ALSO CALLED AH! A LOCAL NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL PET STORE. BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1957. THE CURRENT OWNER, WORKED THERE AS A TEENAGER AND THEN BOUGHT THE BUSINESS. OKAY IT'S A LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD RETAIL. PET STORE. SO, YES, THIS ORDINANCE WILL AFFECT THEY SOLD 124 PUPPIES LAST YEAR. OKAY? ON THEM. SO, BUT THEY HAVE TO GIVE OUT. A COPY OF THEIR PROTECTIONS , WHICH ARE IN THIS CODIFIED IN THIS THIS ORDINANCE, OKAY? UM. YOU HAVE A YEAR, ACCORDING TO OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, YOU HAVE A YEAR FOR YOUR VET TO TELL YOU THAT THAT DOG HAS A CONGENITAL OR HEREDITARY PROBLEM. YOU HAVE A YEAR TO TAKE IT BACK TO THE PET STORE. ACCORDING TO THIS LAW. OKAY? THEY GIVE YOU FOUR OPTIONS ON HOW TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE WITH THAT, THAT STORE THAT RETAIL PET STORE AH! IF YOU CAN'T RESOLVE IT. THEN YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO COURT. IT'S NOT ALL SALES ARE FINAL. YOU IN THE LAW THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO GO TO COURT, OKAY? UM. ALSO WITHIN 30 DAYS CERTIFIED BY THE VET. IF YOU HAVE A PURCHASE, AN ANIMAL THAT HAS A DISEASE OR PARASITE CONDITION OR SOME KIND OF SICKNESS, YOU CAN TAKE IT BACK TO THAT RETAILER AND THEY HAVE TO WORK WITH YOU OR END UP GOING TO COURT. AND OF COURSE IT WAS ONE YEAR LIKE I JUST SAID ON THE HEREDITARY STUFF. UH SOURCING TRANSPARENCY, OKAY? NOW. THE PUPPY GRAND PEOPLE TOLD ME THAT FOR EVERY REASON THAT WE JUST HEARD BEHAVIORAL PROBLEMS. UH, CONDITIONING PROBLEMS. AH! PITBULL MIX PROBLEMS. UH, THAT'S WHY THEY EXIST BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO GET A RESCUE DOG. THEY HAVE MIGHT HAVE A MEDICAL CONDITION THAT REQUIRES SOMETHING THEY MIGHT WANT TO THINK IT'S AN UPDATED BUSINESS MODEL, I THINK, OKAY. ONE SIDE SAYS THEY SOLD THE MILK PUPPIES. ONE SIDE SAYS THEY DON'T HOW DO WE KNOW? WELL IN THE ORDINANCE THAT EXISTING UH, THEY DO HAVE TRANSPARENCY. EVERY RETAIL PET STORE. HAS TO KEEP RECORD NAME, ADDRESS TELEPHONE NUMBER OF THE CANDLE, ITS OWNER. UH, THEIR LICENSE NUMBERS. WHERE THEY ARE THE NUMBER WHERE THEY CAME FROM. UH, I THINK, UM. AND THEY ALSO WANT YOU TO TRACK ALL THE WAY UP TO THE AIR. USDA UH, LICENSE. AH BUT HAS GIVEN UP AT THE FEDERAL LEVEL. LIKE I SAID, KENTUCKY IS REALLY LACKS IN THIS STUFF. AH! THEY ALSO HAVE TO, UH THE LICENSE NUMBER OF THE FEMALE THAT PRODUCED THE LITTER. OR THE INDIVIDUAL ANIMAL. AND, OF COURSE, THE FERRIS WHEEL BIG AT ONE POINT ON THERE. AH THEN WE GET DOWN INTO THE LICENSING. OKAY? AND THE ONE OKAY? I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE ONE GET NEXT FOR PET SHOP. OKAY YOU'RE NOT GONNA SELL DOGS LIKE I GUESS YOU DON'T NEED TO PAY A LICENSE FEE. BUT THAT DOESN'T ADDRESS SELLING DOGS, CATS AND FERRETS. BUT THEY ALSO NIXED OUT THE ANIMAL DEALER. SELLING DOGS, CATS AND FARES. WELL, THAT WOULD BE THE GUY AT THE WALMART. OR IN THE PARKING LOT AT THE FLEA MARKET. HE WOULD NEED TO HAVE AN ANIMAL DEALER LICENSE. SO IF YOU SAW ONE THERE HE COULD BE CONFRONTED. WHERE'S YOUR LICENSE? YOU DON'T HAVE A LICENSE. THEN IT GOES TO WHATEVER THE VIOLATION IS GOING TO BE UH, ON THAT SO UM. I DON'T SEE WHY. WE ARE GOING TO PUT A NEGATIVE STIGMA ON RETAIL PUPPY STORES. THE ONE WHO HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR 57 YEARS. DON'T GO THERE. THEY SELL SIX ANIMALS, OKAY? THAT IS NOT A STIGMA WE NEED TO HAVE UH, ORIGINALLY PUSHED IT. IT WOULD IMPACT BUSINESS. THE ONE YOU GET IN CHECKED OUT. OKAY. GOOGLE FIRST. PET STORES THAT SELL PUPPIES, KENTUCKY 18 NAMES POPPED UP ONLY TWO OF THOSE OR SELLING. PUPPIES, OKAY, AND CATS. UM SO THE INDUSTRY IS CHANGING. UH THE RESCUE DOGS ARE BIG. I KNOW THAT THERE'S A WHOLE ARGUMENT ABOUT BREEDING DOGS AND RESCUE DOGS.[01:00:05]
BUT THAT'S SOMETHING FOR THAT THEM TO WORK OUT. I MEAN, IN THE FISHING INDUSTRY THAT WOULD CALL MORATORIUM. THEY CAN'T FISH. SHE'S SO WHY DON'T THEY CALL MORATORIUM ON BREEDING FOR A YEAR FOR ANYTHING? I DON'T SEE HOW THIS IS WHAT? I HAVEN'T SEEN NEW PROPOSAL. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CHANGES IN THIS ORDINANCE. DO ANYTHING TO STOP. PUPPY MILLS. NOTHING. OKAY? AND, UH SO I'M AGAINST IT. UH HUH. I WANT THE RETAIL PET STORE. TO BE A TRUSTED PLACE TO GO GET COPIES.TRANSPARENT, THE SOURCING TRANSPARENCY, THE CONSUMER PROTECTIONS. AND THE CONSUMER EDUCATION ARE BUILT INTO THE EXISTING ORDERS. DO WE NEED TO UPDATE IT AND MAKE IT BETTER? MAYBE SO, BUT LET'S HAVE A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AND LET'S HAVE EVERYBODY REPRESENTED AT THE TABLE. UH, NOT JUST MAYBE WANT TO. I DON'T KNOW WHO WAS IN ON THAT. BUT UM IF WE DON'T DO THAT, IF WE DON'T HELP THE BUSINESS GROW AND JUST SAY YOU'RE NOT GONNA SELL PUPPIES AND LITTLE JEFFERSON COUNTY. AUGUST 24TH CLASSIFIED ADS. SEVEN ADS FOR PUPPIES. THREE WITH INDIANA AREA CODE. THREE WITH A 502 AREA CODE. ONE WAS A 317 AREA CODE. AND WITH THE STATEMENT IN THERE, ADD THAT LOUISVILLE WERE COMING. OKAY? SO THE DEMAND FOR PUPPIES IS NOT GOING TO STOP. WHY WOULD WE FORCE PEOPLE TO GO OUT OF THE COUNTY AND INTO PLACES WHERE WHO KNOWS, RIGHT? WELL WHEREVER THE THINGS THAT ARE CLAIMED EXISTS, AND I DO BELIEVE THEY DO OKAY.
AH! BUT I DON'T THINK I THINK THAT THAT PROPOSED CHANGES OF BANNING SALES. IS A BAD MOVE FOR COUNTY. AND THAT WE SHOULD STRENGTHEN. AH. THE ORDINANCE TO HELP OUR RETAIL PET STORES.
WHETHER IT'S A NEW BUSINESS MODEL STARTUP. OR IT'S A 57 YEAR OLD BUSINESS. BECOME A BETTER PLACE. TO DO BUSINESS. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? ANY QUESTIONS? JEFF. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE LITTLE ANIMAL SERVICES? NO ONE SPEAKING UP, OKAY? WE APPRECIATE. THIS BOOK. I APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND THERE WERE ANY QUESTIONS AND SO OTHER THAN THAT. AT THIS POINT, I'M GONNA MOVE. SEE IF WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO RE TABLE.
EMOTIONALLY AND ALL RIGHT, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF RE TABLE IN THIS ORDINANCE SAY I MEAN OPPOSITION. YOU'RE IN OPPOSITION . THIS ITEM HAS BEEN RE TABLED AND WE WILL WAIT FOR HOPEFULLY BETWEEN NOW AND THE NEXT TWO WEEKS, WE'LL GET THE CHANGES THAT ARE COMING. THEY WILL GET THOSE SIRED AND WE'LL HAVE SOME TIME TO DIG INTO THOSE SO ONE HAS COME HERE TODAY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. WITHOUT OBJECTION WERE GERMAN.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.