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YES.RESPECT TO YOU. I'LL PUT IT BACK IN YOU. I THINK WE HAVE ALREADY SOLUTION. HOW ARE YOU? GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN. ALRIGHT? YEAH. DOING WELL, THANKS.
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YOUR TV WILL WAIT. NO. ONE MORE PERSON. THEN I'LL DO THE 62ND CALL.VETERAN TV. WE'LL GET STARTED IN 60 SECONDS.
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PEACE WELCOME TO THE PARKS AND SUSTAINABILITY COMMITTEE. TODAY IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 17TH 2023.THE TIME IS CURRENTLY 303. PM I'M CHAIRMAN CHICORY ARTHUR TO MY LEFT IS VICE CHAIR MARYLAND
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PARKER. WE ALSO HAVE COMMITTEE MEMBERS, RUI HUDSON. BAT, SEAN. COMMITTEE MEMBER PHILIP BAKER HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY A COUNCIL MEMBER, SCOTT REED. VIRTUALLY AS WELL AS COMMITTEE MEMBER MOFA HILL VIRTUALLY. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO K R S 61.826.COUNCIL RULE FIVE A. WE'LL START WITH ITEM NUMBER ONE, A SPECIAL DISCUSSION ABOUT THE MILL CREEK GREENWAY PROJECT. WELCOME TO CITY HALL. PLEASE SAY YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD AND YOU CAN GET STARTED. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS JESSICA CANE, AND I'M THE PARKS AND RECREATION
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ADMINISTRATOR WITH JEFFERSON MEMORIAL FOREST AND NATURAL AREAS DIVISION. SO THE MILLCREEK BRING GREAT PLAN WAS COMPLETED THIS PAST SPRING. I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE SEEN IT AND BEEN INVOLVED IN THE PROCESS, BUT WE REALLY WANTED TO JUST PRESENT THE OVERALL PLAN TO COUNSEL I WILL FOLLOW UP AFTER THIS MEETING AND SEND THE FULL REPORT THAT CAME FROM HUMAN NATURE.THIS WILL JUST BE A BRIEF SNAPSHOT OF THE OVERALL PLAN. SURE. I'M SORRY. YEAH. FOR COMMITTEE MEMBERS, COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC. THIS PRESENTATION IS ATTACHED TO THE AGENDA. ITEM NUMBER ONE. ALRIGHT SO THE TEAM WE HAD A LOT OF COMMUNITY INPUT ON THIS PROJECT , WE DEVELOPED A COMMUNITY LEADERSHIP TEAM. THERE WERE LOTS OF STAKEHOLDERS AND PARTNERS INVOLVED AND THEN LOCAL BUSINESSES AND EMPLOYEES. METRO PARKS, OF COURSE, WAS PART OF THIS PROJECT AND THE CONSULTANTS WERE HUMAN NATURE. SO THERE WERE THREE PHASES IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. THE FIRST PHASE WAS THE AWARENESS WHERE THEY SORT OF COLLECTED ALL THE INFORMATION.
WE DID A SITE VISIT. THEY WE LOST, LAUNCHED THE WEBSITE. WE DID SEVERAL PARTNER PROJECT MEETINGS AND SOME COMMUNITY EVENTS. THESE TWO WAS KIND OF THE EXPLORATION PHASE WHERE WE DEVELOPED HUMAN NATURE DEVELOPED THE INITIAL DESIGN CONCEPTS WE HAD, UM, AN OPEN HOUSE AND UM, PARTICIPATED IN SOME COMMUNITY EVENTS AS WELL. SORRY PHASE THREE WAS THE VISIONING WHERE THEY REALLY KIND OF HONED IN ON THE OVERALL DESIGN PLAN AND GOT THE FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY WHERE THEY VOTED ON WHAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO SEE. THROUGHOUT THIS GREEN MAY PLAN. SO THE MILL CREEK CORRIDOR IS AN AREA THAT WILL BE HUGELY INVESTED IN THERE ARE MANY PARTNERS WORKING IN
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THIS IN THIS SPACE. LOUISVILLE MSD IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON A WATERSHED PLAN WITH 3 19 FUNDING AND THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT EFFICIENT WILDLIFE THROUGH THEIR PHILIP, UH, PROGRAM. IS DEVELOPING A STREAM RESTORATION PROJECT. SO THAT STREAM RESTORATION PROJECT IS VERY CLOSELY TIED TO THIS PARK'S GREENWAY PROJECT. UH, THE EXISTING EIGHT MILE CHANNEL PROVIDES LITTLE ECOLOGICAL OR COMMUNITY VALUE. IT'S CURRENTLY CHANNEL IZED. UM SO THIS PROJECT WILL REALLY HELP IMPROVE WATER QUALITY AND HABITAT, AND WE PLAN TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE. SO THIS IS LOUISVILLE SO AS YOU CAN SEE, SORT OF OVERALL PARK SYSTEM HERE ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE, YOU CAN SEE THE OUTSKIRTS. THERE'S PARKLANDS AND THEN THE FOREST TO THE SOUTH. AND THIS IS SORT OF AN OVERVIEW OF THE PROPOSED WITH THE LOUISVILLE LOOP. AND THEN YOU CAN SEE THE BIG GAP THAT THIS GREENWAY FILLS OVER HERE IN SOUTHWEST LOUISVILLE. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE PARKS FOR ALL INITIATIVES, SO THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF TALK ABOUT 10 MINUTES.WALK TO ACCESSIBILITY WHERE THE GREATEST NEEDS ARE FOR PARKS IN THE CITY. UH AND AGAIN, YOU CAN SEE THE HUGE GAP THAT THIS GREENWAY FILLS AND BOTH THE GREATEST NEEDS AREA AND EXCESS ABILITY. THERE WERE MULTIPLE DIFFERENT CORRIDOR DESIGN, SO WE HAVE. THERE ARE THREE PRIMARY HUBS. UH THERE ARE FREE SECONDARY HUBS, AND I THINK THERE ARE MAYBE NINE TERTIARY HUBS. SO THE PRIMARIES ARE LIKE , UH, SUN VALLEY THERE THE LARGER AREAS SYLVANIA, UM, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES ARE SORT OF PARKING AREAS AND THEN JUST TRAIL ACCESS. YOU CAN SEE HERE, WHERE THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES COULD TO CONNECT TO THE COMMUNITY. BOTH SCHOOLS AND CHURCHES THROUGH THIS GREENWAY. THIS IS A SNAPSHOT OF WHAT THE COMMUNITY INPUT GAVE US SO YOU CAN SEE THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR HIKING TRAILS, ACCESS FISHING, DOG FRIENDLY AREAS, PICNICKING SPACES TO GATHER. SO WHEN WE LOOK AT THE OVERALL CONNECTIVITY FOR THE GREENWAY, WE'RE LOOKING AT 10.4 MILES OF PAVED ACCESSIBILITY TRAIL A MILE OF WALKING TRAIL THREE PRIMARY GREENWAY HUBS. THREE SECONDARY GREENWAY HUBS, NINE TERTIARY GREENWAYS HUBS, 36 EDUCATIONAL REST STOPS AND 142 PARKING SPACES. SO THIS GREENWAY REALLY PROVIDES A TON OF OPPORTUNITY FOR ACCESS THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AND WOULD REALLY PROVIDE SOME DESTINATION SPOTS. WHEN WE LOOK AT OVERALL HABITAT , UM 13.8 MILES OF RESTORED STREAM 101 ACRES OF WET MEADOW 20 ACRES OF UPLAND MEADOW 30 ACRES OF FORESTED WETLANDS 305 ACRES OF SUCCESSION OF FOREST 283 ACRES OF MATURE AND PRESERVED FORESTS AND 45 ACRES OF RESTORATION OF REFORESTATION. I'M SORRY. UH, THIS IMAGE ON THE RIGHT HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A RENDERING OF FISHING ACCESS. UM ALONG THAT CORRIDOR THAT COULD PROTECT WILL SEE IT IN SOME OF THE ZONES BUT WOULD PERHAPS BE MAYBE THE GREENWOOD ROAD? SO THERE'S LOTS OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP THROUGHOUT THIS ENTIRE GREENWAY PROJECT. UH THERE'S TONS OF NEIGHBORHOODS THAT COULD PROVIDE ACCESS TO AND THERE'S ALSO OPPORTUNITIES TO WORK WITH THE GREEN BELT HIGHWAY. SO THIS IS ZONE ONE ZONE ONE STARTS AT SYLVANIA. UM . THERE ARE A COUPLE OF TERTIARY HUBS AS SOME AREAS FOR LIKE AN OUTDOOR CLASSROOM TO CONNECT WITH CONWAY MIDDLE SCHOOL. THIS ORANGE LINE HERE IS THE PROPOSED TRAIL THROUGHOUT THE GREENWAY.
AND THEN SYLVANIA. UH. PARK COMMUNITY CENTER IS SORT OF THE MAIN HUB OF WHERE THIS WHOLE PROJECT BEGINS. THIS IS JUST SORT OF AN OVERVIEW OF WHAT THAT GREENWAY COULD LOOK LIKE. SO YOU'LL SEE THE ORANGE TRAIL WOULD BE THE WALKING PATH AND THEN YOU CAN SEE HERE THE STREAM RESTORATION TO TAKE IT BACK TO SORT OF A MEANDERING PATHWAY AND THEN ON THE RIGHT THERE, THE GREEN BELT HIGHWAY. THIS PROVIDES A SNAPSHOT OF THE CORRIDOR SECTIONS SO YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE EXISTING CHANNEL OF MILLCREEK IS WHERE THE PROPOSED STREAM CORRIDOR WOULD BE. AND THE SHARED USE PATHS. THIS IS THE SAME SYLVANIA HUB AREA. THIS COMMUNITY THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN VERY INVOLVED IN THIS PROCESS. THEY HAVE BIG OPINIONS ABOUT THEIR COMMUNITY CENTER AND
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HAVE FELT LONG IGNORED. SO WE MADE A REAL POINT TO CONNECT DIRECTLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOLKS. WE HELD MEETINGS IN THE CHURCH IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD, AND SO WE GOT A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM THEM ABOUT WHAT THEY WANTED TO SEE AT THIS NEW SPACE. SO THERE'S A COMBINATION OF MULTI SPORT COURTS, ADVENTURE AND NATURE PLAYGROUND WITH ACCESSIBILITY, COMMUNITY GREEN SPACE IS POTENTIALLY COMMUNITY GARDENS. ZONE TWO IS ALONG THIS GREENWOOD ROAD HERE AND THAT WOULD PROVIDE SECONDARY GREENWAY. HUB AREA, SO SOME ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES, FISHING OPPORTUNITIES. REST STOPS. SO THE SECONDARY HUBS AGAIN PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PARKING SPACES. UH JUST A LITTLE MORE INFRASTRUCTURE IN THOSE AREAS AND THEN TERTIARY HUBS ARE REALLY JUST TRAIL ACCESS DIRECTORAL ACCESS WOULDN'T HAVE ANY PARKING OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. ZONE FIVE IS IN THE SUN VALLEY GOLF COURSE AREA, SO THIS REALLY PROVIDES AN OPPORTUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, HAVE SOME DIFFERENT PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE GOLF COURSE. THAT CONTINUOUS GREENWAY TRAIL THE COMMUNITY CENTER GREENWAY THERE AND SOME REFORESTATION PROJECTS. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE. THERE'S UH, SOME SUGGESTIONS FROM THE COMMUNITY, NATIVE PLANTINGS, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE AND STORMWATER DEMONSTRATION AREAS, OUTDOOR CLASSROOMS AND A BIG ONE WE HEARD WASN'T IMPROVED CROSSING AT BETHANY LANE. YOU CAN. THIS IS JUST A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THAT. SO YOU CAN KIND OF SEE WHERE THAT CROSSING WOULD BE. THIS IS ZONE SEVEN. THERE ALREADY EXISTS THIS GOLF COURSE IN THIS AREA, SO OPPORTUNITIES FOR PARTNERSHIP. UM. AND SO THIS WOULD JUST CONTINUE ALONG THROUGH THIS THIS AREA HERE. ZONE EIGHT IS THE END OF THE MILL CREEK CORRIDOR. IT ENDS AT WATSON LANE. SO THERE'S ALREADY A CONNECTION TO THE LOUISVILLE, LOUISVILLE AT WATSON LANE, AND THIS WAS JUST EXPAND ON THAT A BIT. SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES.SOME OF THIS LAND IS LG ANDY SO THERE WOULD BE PARTNERSHIPS WITH WITH THEM ON LAND USE. UM, BUT THERE COULD BE A DOG PARK PAVILION GATHERING SPACE RESTROOM ACCESS. SO THIS IS KIND OF A BREAKDOWN OF THE COSTS THAT HUMAN NATURE SENT TO US. UM IT'S REALLY JUST AN OVERVIEW YOU CAN SEE TOTAL TO ALMOST $24 MILLION PROJECT OVERALL. UM FISH AND WILDLIFE DOES ALREADY HAVE ALMOST 20 MILLION DEDICATED TO THIS GREENWAY STREAM RESTORATION . SO THERE IS A LOT OF FUNDING ALREADY BEING INVESTED IN THIS AREA. SO NEXT STEPS WERE JUST KIND OF LOOKING AT THE OVERALL PICTURE OF THE GREENWAY. SO WE, AS I MENTIONED ARE REALLY TRYING TO WORK HAND IN HAND WITH U. S FISH AND WILDLIFE. UH THEY HAVE RESOURCES THAT WILL HELP US. THEY'RE ALREADY GOING TO BE MOVING EARTH. SO A LOT OF THAT COULD REALLY COORDINATE WELL TOGETHER AND, UM SO WE'RE KIND OF TRYING TO PLAN ALONG THEIR THEIR TIMELINE. THEIR OVERALL TIMELINE FOR THE STREAM IS MANY, MANY, MANY YEARS. SO UM, BUT THEY DO HAVE FUNDING FOR, UH, EITHER ZONE ONE OR ZONE TO. THEY HAVEN'T REALLY DECIDED WHERE THEY'RE STARTING. IT DEPENDS ON UM, PROPERTY LINES AND THE DEEDS THAT THEY CAN GET ALL THE INFORMATION ON. SO THIS IS JUST SORT OF AN OVERVIEW OF SOME FINANCIAL THINGS. UM I THINK THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING TO MAYBE ASK FOR FUNDING IN THE FISCAL 25 YEAR. UM PERHAPS STARTING AT ZONE ONE IN SYLVANIA , WHERE WE FEEL LIKE THE BIGGEST NEED IS, UH, JUST STARTING WITH SOME CLEANUP IN THAT SITE. THAT'S THE PLAN OVERALL. UM I'D LIKE TO GIVE GARY AND ALICE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADD ANY INFORMATION THEY MIGHT WANT TO THEIR VIRTUAL FOR THE RECORD. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCIL MEMBER KEVIN CRAMER AND AGAIN IF YOU ARE A GUEST SPEAKER SAY YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR THE RECORD, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. GARY, YOU'RE MUTED. THIS IS SCARY WOMAN TECH WITH HUMAN NATURE. CAN YOU HEAR ME OUT THERE? YES I WOULD JUST LIKE TO WRITE AGAIN. THANKS JESSICA. VERY POINT THROUGH LISTENING TO YOU MENTIONED WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE IS THING. QUITE A BIT. THAT'S THE REAL OPPORTUNITY, AND I
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THINK WHEN WE WENT TO THE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE THERE'S A LITTLE APATHY IS LIKE JUST ANOTHER FRIEND AND YOU KNOW, REALLY GOING TO HAPPEN. YOU KNOW THE FISH AND WILDLIFE IS GOING TO MOVE AHEAD. THEY'VE ALREADY BEGUN, YOU KNOW? FLOATING GRANDPA AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE ANOTHER 10 YEAR TIMEFRAME AND THEY'VE GOT THROWN REVENUE SOURCE OF THE OPPORTUNITY FOR MEN. TROW IS TOO IS THIS PLAN TO GET OUT THE HEAD AND WORK CLOSELY WITH THEM SO THAT POSSIBLY IN THE END OF THAT, 10 YEARS OF STATE WE'VE GOT MOST OF THIS A LOT OF THIS INCORPORATED , YOU KNOW, MAYBE THEY CAN'T PAY THE TRAIL, FOR EXAMPLE, YOU COME IN AND PAY FOR THINGS GRADE FOURTH. THEY DO THE DREAMS. THEY DO THE RESTORATION. THEY DO A LOT OF THE ACCESS SO THAT'S THE REAL OPPORTUNITY IS EVEN IF IT'S ZONE BY ZONE TO MOVE AHEAD WITH SOME MORE DETAILED PLANS. KEEP UP WITH AND GET AHEAD OF, UM, PATIENT WILDLIFE, A REAL A REAL PARTNERSHIP AND LEVERAGE OPPORTUNITY. AND MY NAME IS ALICE BRIDGES WITH CONSULTING MY ROLE ON THE PROJECT WAS TO FACILITATE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT , AND WE REALLY DID HAVE GREAT RESIDENT PARTICIPATION IN THIS WHICH INFORMED THE PLAN THAT JESSICA JUST SHARED WITH YOU. UM IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING. SO MANY PEOPLE, UM IT'S THE MILL CREEK IS A LIKE A ASSET HIDDEN IN PLAIN SIGHT. THEY DIDN'T THEY KNOW IT'S THERE, BUT THINK OF IT A LITTLE BIT MORE LIKE A DITCH FOR FLOOD CONTROL, AS OPPOSED TO A NATURAL AREA THAT COULD BE LEVERAGED AS A RECREATIONAL ASSET. BUT ONCE THEY UNDERSTOOD THE OPPORTUNITY THAT THIS REPRESENTS, THERE WAS A LOT OF EXCITEMENT FROM PEOPLE IN SOUTH LOUISVILLE. AND, OF COURSE, THE MILLCREEK COVERS SUCH A WIDE SWATH OF DISTRICTS. UM IN METRO LOUISVILLE, SO IT CREATES A REALLY COOL OPPORTUNITY TO, UM LEVERAGES OPPORTUNITY WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE AND WITH MSD S EFFORTS AND UM AS THE PARKS FOR ALL PLAN OUTLINED SO BEAUTIFULLY TO IMPROVE ACCESS TO GREEN SPACE, WHICH DOES SO MUCH FOR THE HEALTH AND WELL BEING OF OUR COMMUNITY, AND RESIDENTS SAW THAT AND THEY WERE VERY EXCITED ABOUT IT. UM, I WILL SAY, ALSO IN PARTICULAR, AS JESSICA SAID THE SYLVANIA COMMUNITY CENTER, WHICH CLOSED YEARS AGO AND IS AN ABSOLUTELY DEPLORABLE SHAPE. UM PRESENTS AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY ONCE AGAIN TO TIE IN WITH PARKS FOR ALL AND USING OUR COMMUNITY CENTERS AS THEY ASSETS THAT THEY CAN BE TO MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES HEALTHIER AND SAFER. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR JOINING US VIRTUALLY THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND FOR ALL THE WORK THAT YOU DO AND ASPIRED TO DO WE HAVE SOMEONE IN THE QUEUE, SO WE'LL JUMP TO THEM. AND IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS, PLEASE JUST USE THE Q COMMITTEE MEMBER BASH ON THANK YOU, CHAIR JESSICA . THANK YOU SO MUCH. IT'S A GREAT PRESENTATION. I REALLY APPRECIATE LOOKING AT IT AND LISTENING TO THIS. I THINK IT'S A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE SOUTH END AND SOUTHWEST SERVICE AND COUNTY TO UTILIZE THIS AS A GREAT ASSET, BUT, UM, MY QUESTION WAS ANSWERED ABOUT REOPENING SYLVANIA. BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SERVING YOUR COMMUNITY CENTER. WHILE WE'RE ON THAT IT MAY NOT BE SO.IF IT'S NOT OPEN NOW. IS THERE ALREADY DOLLARS GOING INTO THE CENTER TO START WORKING ON THIS NOW? IF I RECALL CORRECTLY, $45,000 INVESTMENT INTO THE UNITS OVER THE PAST. IN THE CLASS FOR SCHOOL. UM, HERE. UM I CANNOT ACTUALLY ANSWER THAT QUESTION. THAT WOULD MAYBE BE A QUESTION FOR OZZY. UM AS FAR AS MY KNOWLEDGE, THERE'S NOT CURRENT FUNDING DIRECTED SPECIFICALLY FOR SYLVANIA COMMUNITY CENTER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND AGAIN. I THINK THIS IS GONNA BE A GREAT PROJECT AND LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT COME TO FRUITION. ALRIGHT, A FEW QUESTIONS. THE $23.9 MILLION COST ESTIMATE. HOW MUCH OF WHAT WE JUST SAW IN THE PRESENTATION IS INCLUDED IN THAT OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT COVERS EVERYTHING. WE SAW THE PIECES MISSING. COULD YOU JUST BREAK THAT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FOR US? I THINK THAT, UM, GARY AND SARAH MIGHT BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION A LITTLE BIT BETTER, BUT I THINK IT PRETTY MUCH COVERS EVERYTHING. BUT I DON'T THINK IT COVERS LIKE THE DESIGN NECESSARILY. THAT STILL IS TO COME. SO THIS WAS REALLY CONCEPT . YOU KNOW, DESIGN. IT'S IDEAS. IT'S WHAT THE COMMUNITY SORT OF WANTS TO SEE. BUT WE DON'T HAVE ANY SORT OF DETAILED PLANS SO FAR. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST AN OVERVIEW ESTIMATE BASED ON WHAT THEY THINK IT MIGHT COST ONCE WE START MOVING THROUGH THE ZONES.
I IF I COULD ANSWER THAT. SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE SCREEN LITIGATION IN THE STREAM RESTORATION MODE, SO THERE'S A CORRIDOR AMONG THE STATEMENT. IN OUR IN OUR DRIVES THE LIGHTER GREEN WHERE YOU SEE THE RIBBONS SYSTEM. THAT'S THE FISH AND WILDLIFE IS GOING TO DO SO. WE
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DID NOT TRY TO ESTIMATE THAT INCORPORATE THAT THEY HAVE THEIR OWN FUNDING. UM SOURCES FOR RENT , SO IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THAT SO IT WILL BE ALL THE OTHER AMENITIES OUTSIDE OF THAT. AND I JUST WANT TO APOLOGIZE TO YOU OFF. THE MICS WERE MUTED EARLIER . HOPEFULLY WE CAN EVERYONE CLEARLY NOW I HEARD STREAM RESTORATION AND SOMETHING ELSE THAT YOU SAID IT DIDN'T COVER.THAT THE STREAM RESTORATION ON THE GROWTH WORK AND IN THE STREAM MITIGATION IS NOT IN OUR ESTIMATE THAT IS EARMARKED FOR EFFICIENT WILDLIFE WORK. THAT COME ACROSS, OKAY? YES THANK YOU. COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS, THEN WE'LL JUMP BACK IN THE QUEUE ARE THE ZONES. CONSIDERED THE PRIORITIES. I KNOW THERE'S 12 AND SO FORTH, OR DO YOU FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SOME OVERARCHING PRIORITIES FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT? THE ZONES ARE LAID OUT FROM UPSTREAM TO DOWN, BASICALLY, SO, UM, THEY ARE NOT LISTED IN PRIORITY. UM AGAIN. WE'RE TRYING TO WORK WITH FISH AND WILDLIFE ON TIMING OF WHERE WE START OUR PROJECT TO LINE UP WITH WHERE THEY START THEIR PROJECT. WE DO, HOWEVER, FEEL LIKE, UH, ZONE ONE WITH SLOVENIA WOULD BE OUR TOP PRIORITY BECAUSE OF THE NEED. BYE BYE BYE AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ABLE IF YOU'RE ABLE TO PULL BACK UP THE PRESENTATION, BUT WHEN YOU PUT UP THE SECTION AROUND PARKS FOR ALL, I'M CURIOUS. I'M LOOKING AT THE FINAL PARKS FOR RECOMMENDATION. IT MENTIONS L L MILLCREEK CUT OFF G W IF THAT CORRELATES WITH WHAT YOU HAD, OR THIS IS SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT AND RANDOM. THAT'S NOT REALLY CORRELATING. WELL, WHAT YOU ALL ARE WORKING ON. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT REFERENCE TO L L MILLCREEK CUT OFF IS ALTHOUGH I KNOW THERE IS A MILLCREEK CUT OFF, UM AT THE NORTHERN END OF THE WATERSHED. THERE ARE TWO LOUISVILLE LUKE CONNECTIONS FOR MILK ROCK. OKAY SO L L LOVE A LOOP, AND THAT'S THE CUT OFF, UNDERSTOOD? ALL RIGHT. COMMITTEE MEMBER, RUI. OKAY THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY. I WAS AT ONE OF YOUR PLANNING SESSIONS AND I COULD CREATE THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT AND I'M GLAD TO SEE THE INVESTMENT GOING IN. TO THAT PART OF OUR CITY TO HAVE A LINEAR PARK SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY ENJOY OVER IN THE PARKLANDS. I THINK THAT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA.
SO IT SOUNDS LIKE WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH THE STREAM MITIGATION PART OF IT'S GOING TO COST. UH THAT'S NOT OUR FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY THAT WILL BE 100% FISH AND WILDLIFE WITH THEIR FEET AND LOU PROJECT PROGRAM, SO I THINK THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT 20 MILLION ALREADY DEDICATED TO MILLCREEK. UM THAT WON'T GET THEM THROUGH ALL EIGHT ZONES, BUT IT'S A PRETTY BIG CHUNK OF IT. OKAY SO ANY IDEA WHEN THEY'RE GOING TO START WORKING ON ACTUALLY WORKING ON THE STREAM ITSELF? I REALIZED WE HAVE TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THE PARK PORTION OF THE CORRECT WE DO? YES THEIR WORK WILL HAPPEN, REGARDLESS, THOUGH, SO THERE WILL BE A STREAM RESTORATION.
WHETHER THERE IS EVER A GREENWAY OR NOT, UM, BUT WE HOPE THAT THERE'S A GREENWAY ALONG WITH IT. YEAH. THEY PROBABLY IN ALL HONESTY. CONSTRUCTION ON THAT PROJECT WOULD NOT START FOR ANOTHER THREE YEARS AT THE EARLIEST. I WOULD SAY THERE IS STILL VERY MUCH IN THEIR PLANNING STAGES, THEY'RE STILL TRYING TO GATHER ALL THE PROPERTY INFORMATION THAT THEY NEED. UM SO. FISH AND WILDLIFE PROJECTS TEND TO RUN A LITTLE SLOW. HMM I HAVE TWO OTHER ONES HAPPENING IN THE FOREST RIGHT NOW, SO I CAN ATTEST TO THAT. BUT I WOULD SAY THREE YEARS AT THE EARLIEST AS THEY WOULD START ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION SO WELL. THEY NEED TO BE REQUIRING PROPERTY AS I DO THIS OR HOW MUCH PROPERTY LIKE IS DO THEY ALREADY MANAGED? THEY CREATE EASEMENTS BASICALLY, CONSERVATION EASEMENTS THROUGH METRO. SO THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER, UH, MOU THAT WILL COME THROUGH METRO FROM FISH AND WILDLIFE. OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IF I COULD JUST JAM INTO I THINK WHAT WE WERE HOPING TO DO IS TO GET A LITTLE BIT IN FRONT OF THE FISH AND WILDLIFE FOLKS, SO IF THERE WAS FUNDING AVAILABLE IN THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR FOR MORE DETAILED DESIGN DRAWINGS. UM THAT WOULD SET US UP FOR CONSTRUCTION, AS WELL AS ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT WOULD BE READY TO GO, UM AND BE ABLE TO REALLY. LEVERAGE THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME. JUST FOR THE RECORD. COULD YOU SAY YOUR NAME AND TITLE FOR US? I APOLOGIZE. ALICE BRIDGES WITH OB CONSULTING . THANK YOU SO MUCH. WE'RE GOING TO ADD TO THAT. YES, I WAS JUST GONNA THANK ALICE FOR MAKING THAT POINT. UM WHILE WE ARE VERY MUCH DEPENDENT ON THE TIMELINE EFFICIENT WILDLIFE, AS ALICE MENTIONED, WE REALLY WOULD LIKE , AT LEAST ARE DETAILED PLANS TO BE LAID OUT BEFORE THEY START REALLY. ANY SORT OF CONSTRUCTION
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SO THAT WE KNOW HOW WE'RE COORDINATING, SO WE KNOW YOU KNOW IF WE NEED DIRT SOMEPLACE THAT THEY CAN MOVE IT THERE FOR US AND SAVES US COSTS. UM SO IF THEY KNOW WHAT WE WANT, THEN IT HELPS THEIR PLANNING PROJECT QUITE A BIT AS WELL. AND THIS PLAN WAS REALLY DESIGNED HAND IN HAND WITH THEM, SO WE'VE ALREADY TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHERE THEIR STREAM RESTORATION IS GOING TO TAKE PLACE. HOW MUCH? YOU KNOW, BUFFER THEY NEED AND ALL OF THAT. TYPE OF INFORMATION. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE CUBE. GOING ONCE GOING TWICE GOING THRICE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. DON'T BE A STRANGER . THANK YOU ALL FOR HAVING ME WE'LL JUMP TO ITEM NUMBER TWO. 0-191 DASH 23 IN THE ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 42 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES TO PERMIT EXTENSION UNTIL DECEMBER. 2028 OF GOLF COURSE MANAGEMENT CONTRACTS CURRENTLY IN EFFECT. MAY I PLEASE HAVE A MOTION. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THE SPONSOR IS ONLINE. I DON'T KNOW IF SHE COULD HEAR US OR SEE US, BUT SHE DID LET ME KNOW THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER SPONSOR IN THE HOUSE. BROTHER KEVIN CRAMER, SO I'LL PASS THE MIC TO HIM. THANK YOU, MR CHAIR, AND I WILL BEGIN WITH THAT NOTE. MY NAME IS NOT LISTED AS A[Pending Legislation]
SPONSOR AND WITH THE WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE PRIMARY SPONSOR TO ASK IF I CAN BE AT IT ALSO AS A PRIMARY SPONSOR. THERE ARE FOLKS FROM THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO SPEAK TO THIS, SO I'LL TURN THE FLOOR OVER TO THEM. BUT BEFORE I DO IF I COULD JUST MAKE A COUPLE OF QUICK COMMENTS, UM, WE HAVE FOR SOME NUMBER OF YEARS NOW. I'VE BEEN STRUGGLING TO WORK THROUGH THE GOLF COURSE CONTRACTS WITH PROFESSIONALS THAT RUN THOSE COURSES. THERE WAS SOME CONCERN THAT THE GOLF COURSES WERE LOSING AN INORDINATE AMOUNT OF MONEY IN TERMS OF WHAT IT COSTS TO RUN THEM AND WHAT WE WERE GENERATING. UM WE DID RENEGOTIATE CONTRACTS WITH THE PROFESSIONALS WHO RUN THEM. THERE ARE SEVERAL CHANGES IN THOSE CONTRACTS THAT HAVE ACTUALLY MADE THE GOLF COURSES. NOT ONLY, UM LESS OF A DRAW ON OUR RESOURCES, BUT ACTUALLY, IN MANY INSTANCES, SEVERAL GOLF COURSES ARE ACTUALLY, UH, TURNING IN REVENUE, SO THE CONTRACTS HAVE WORKED. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANS. WE'RE REALLY HAPPY THAT ALL OF THE GOLF COURSES ARE SUCCESSFUL. THE ONE HITCH AND ALL OF THIS IS AS WE GOT INTO THOSE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE COULD DO AND HOW WE SHOULD REDO THOSE CONTRACTS. SOMEHOW WHEN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION IT WAS OVERLOOKED THAT THE PROFESSIONALS HAD A CONTRACT THAT WENT FROM THIS STATE TO THAT DATE, AND THEIR CART RENTAL CONTRACTS DID NOT MATCH THEIR CONTRACTS. AND SO WHAT YOU END UP WITH IS A GOLF PRO, WHO HAS A CONTRACT THAT ENDS ON, SAID DATE. AND THEY CAN'T GET A GOLF CART CONTRACT. THEY GOLF CART COMPANY WON'T SIGNED A CONTRACT WITH THEM BEYOND THE DATE THAT THEIR CONTRACT IS SO THEY CAN'T GET THAT AND THE GOLF CART COMPANIES ARE NOT INTERESTED IN SIGNING LEASES THAT ARE LESS THAN A CERTAIN NUMBER OF YEARS.USUALLY IT'S FIVE AND SO THEY DON'T WANT TO SIGN A LEASE FOR TWO YEARS. AND SO WE'VE GOT THIS WEIRD PLACE WHERE WE HAVE GOLF PROS IN SOME COURSES THAT DON'T HAVE ACCESS DON'T HAVE CONTRACTS FOR GOLF CARTS. AND WHAT THIS EXTENSION WILL DO IS IT WILL MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR ALL OF OUR GOLF COURSE PROS TO HAVE THEIR CONTRACTS AND CONSISTENT WITH WHAT THE GOLF CART CONTRACTS WOULD BE HOPE. I DIDN'T MUDDY THE WATERS FOR YOU, AUSSIE. UM I JUST KIND OF ONE LADY GROUNDWORK , AND THEN AGAIN, MR CHAIR WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT THANK YOU. AN FOR THE RECORD, WE ARE JOINED. BY COMMITTEE MEMBER OF PHILIP BAKER HAS EXCUSED ABSENCES NOW AN EXCUSE BECAUSE HE'S HERE. NAME A TITLE FOR THE RECORD. GIBSON ENTERING PARKS DIRECTOR I COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER. YOU COVERED EVERY SINGLE PART OF WHY WE NEED TO DO THIS. UM I WOULD ONLY ADD. ONE THING IS, IF WE DON'T GET TO DO THIS. THEY PROBABLY WILL NOT GET NEW CARDS AND THEY'LL TRY TO RIDE IT OUT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE DON'T WANT. SO YOU COVERED EVERYTHING. I HAD NOTHING ELSE TO SAY. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL TRY TO GO DEEPER IF SOMEBODY HAS A CONCERN, BUT IT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS OVERLOOKED AND THEY'VE STEPPED UP AND DONE A GREAT JOB.
I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. I WILL JUST ASK. I NOTICED THERE WAS PEACE IN THE ORDINANCE ABOUT REPORTS EVERY FOUR YEARS AND HELPING US MAKE INFORMED DECISIONS. WHEN WAS THE LAST REPORT AND THEN CAN YOU JUST SPEAK TO WHAT INFORMED DECISION WOULD HELP US EXTEND THESE CONTRACTS SPECIFICALLY WHY THESE FOLKS? YEAH. I'VE BROUGHT NATHAN ME WHILE WITH ME, TOO, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW WHEN THE LAST IN DEPTH REPORT WAS GIVEN TO YOU GUYS, YOU KNOW, AND HE'S FISCAL YEAR, WE COULD GIVE A REPORT WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS. WHEN EVERYTHING IF YOU'RE
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SPEAKING COULD YOU COME TO THE MARKET FOR US? PLEASE NAME THE TITLE. I LIKE YOUR HAT. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. NATHAN MAY WANT INTERIM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR OVER REVENUE DIVISION GOLF FALLS UNDER THAT, UM I'M NOT SURE WHEN THE LAST YOU KNOW IN DEPTH REPORT WAS WAS GIVEN, UM BUT WE COULD WORK ON AN IN DEPTH REPORT AT THE END OF THIS, YOU KNOW, THE FISCAL YEAR WE SOLVE ENCUMBERED EXPENSES THAT WERE WAITING TO GATHER. BUT ONCE WE HAVE ALL THAT INFORMATION, WE CAN WORK ON ONE OF THOSE AGAIN. AND PROVIDE THAT AND I JUST BRING IT UP BECAUSE THE LEGISLATION TALKS ABOUT MAKING AN INFORMED DECISION, AND WITHOUT THAT REPORT, I DON'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT GOLF OR THE IMPACT THAT FOLKS HAVE HAD OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'VE HEARD.ANECDOTALLY. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE AN INFORMED DECISION ABOUT EXTENDING THESE WITHOUT BASING IT ON SOMETHING. I'M CURIOUS IF WE EXTEND THEM BECAUSE YOU JUST REMIND ME WHAT WOULD BE THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF YEARS FROM WHEN TO 2028. HOW LONG WOULD THEY HAVE THE CONTRACTS? GIBSON AGAIN? UM THEIR CONTRACT WOULD NORMALLY RUN OUT IN, UH, 2025. SO WE'RE REALLY JUST GIVING THEM THREE YEARS. BECAUSE THE CONTRACT FOR THE FOR THE GOLF CARTS IS FIVE YEARS AND THEY'RE COMING UP ON WHEN THEY NEED TO RENEW. AND YOU KNOW THE EXAMPLE WOULD BE ONE GUY TOLD ME, HE SAID, OZZY, IF WE DON'T GET THIS GOING, AND I HAVE TO DO AN RFP, AND I DON'T GET IT. I'M ON THE HOOK FOR 60 GRAND FOR THE FOLLOWING YEAR BECAUSE THEIR BIGGEST EXPENSES HE'S GOLF CARTS . THERE. THEY HAVE TO LEASE THEM WITH NO HELP FROM US, AND THAT'S OVER 300 GRAND IT'S A BIG CHUNK.
SO WHAT I'LL HAVE NATHAN DO IS, UM, PUT TOGETHER SOMETHING TO SEND TO YOU GUYS HAVE HOW MANY ROUNDS ARE PLAYED AT EACH COURSE RIGHT NOW IN SOME FINANCIALS, AND HE'LL TRY TO GET THAT TO YOU NEXT WEEK OF YOU KNOW WHERE WE'RE AT HERE TODAY, AND I'LL GIVE YOU A GOOD IDEA BECAUSE I KNOW WE'RE UP AND ROUNDS. THEY'VE SINCE METRO COUNCIL WENT TO THIS NEW PROCEDURE. IT'S BEEN PHENOMENAL COMPARED TO WHERE WE WERE, YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO FIVE YEARS AGO. RIGHT? COMMITTEE MEMBER FATHER, DO YOU WANT TO ADD ANYTHING? HEY YES, UM. I JUST APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS SO THAT, YOU KNOW, UM WE CAN BE IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE GOLF BOARD PARTS AND, UM, THE PROS CONTRACTS. I APPRECIATE YOUR HELP. I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. IS THAT OLD? WAS HE YOUR HAND IN HERE? THERE MIGHT BE OLD, THOUGH. ANYONE ELSE? WHAT, ONCE TWICE CORN PRICE. ALL RIGHT. THIS IS AN ORDINANCE SO WE CAN OPEN UP THE VOTING. COMMITTEE MEMBER FILER.
YES REMEMBER MORGAN HILL? THEY'RE HERE. COMMITTEE MEMBER MOTHER HILL. AND VOTED. JESUS CHRIST. COME ON. SORRY I CAN'T GET THIS ON MUTED, BUT I DID VOTE. STUFF HERE ON THE. IT'S ALL GOOD. WE GOT YOU ON. ALRIGHT, IT PASSES. WE'LL SEND IT TO CONSENT. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THOSE REPORTS JUST JUST SO WE HAVE THEM BY THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING, EVEN THOUGH IT'S ON CONSENT. ALRIGHT ITEM NUMBER THREE. WE HAD WE HAVE A REQUEST FROM ONE OF THE CO SPONSORS TO HOLD IT. MAKE A MOTION TO NOT HOLD IT. ALRIGHT WE GOT EMOTION TO NOT HOLD IT. TO COLLEGE.
SECOND AND WE HAVE A SECOND IS THIS SOMETHING WE CAN DEBATE? SO ALL IN FAVOR OF TABLING SAY AYE. ANY AGAINST. ROLL CALL. THIS IS TWO UNDER TABLED.
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ALRIGHT. IT IS BEING HELD. NO MORE BUSINESS TODAY.CAN WE. SERIOUSLY NUMBER CARDS. YOU KIDDING ME? SHE'S PUSHING THEM HARD.
NO I DON'T. LIKE WHAT? I'M MORE BUSINESS. TODAY WE ARE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU ALL FOR
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YOUR OWN. OH, WE ARE NOT BECAUSE I AM TAKING ON THE PARKS DEPARTMENT RIGHT NOW. WE ARE NOT ADJOURNED. I NEED HELP. NOW YOU'RE DIRECTOR MET UP WITH ME THIS MORNING AND I HAVE THE RIGHT TO BE HURT. I PROMISE YOU GUYS YOU'RE GONNA WANNA HEAR ME BECAUSE I PROMISE. I HAVE A WHOLE BUNCH OF PEOPLE OUTSIDE NEWS REPORTERS AND ALL.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.