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WE HAVE A QUORUM SO WE WILL BEGIN IN THE PROPERTY. APPROXIMATELY 45 SECONDS.
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BACK EARLY. YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. UH PRIME GLOVE KEEPS SAYING I AM[00:34:55]
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SO YES, BECAUSE IF NOTHING ELSE, YOU CAN ROLL CALL VOTES ON AN ISSUE SINCE SINCE YOU'RE IN AND YOU'RE BEING SEEN YOU'RE STILL PART OF THE COMMITTEE. OKAY. THANK YOU.YOU'RE IN, OKAY? OKAY? GOOD AFTERNOON AND WELCOME TO PLAN AND ZONING COMMITTEE. I'M
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COUNCILWOMAN MADONNA FLOOD CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE. I AM JOINED BACK. FELLOW COMMITTEE MEMBERS, COUNCILMAN PHILIP BAKER COUNCILMAN BEN RENO WEBER COUNCILMAN BETSY RUE[Roll Call]
COUNCILWOMAN ROBIN INGLE. COUNCIL MEMBER KHALIL BATSON. WE'RE ALSO JOINED BY UM COUNCILMAN SIMON COUNCILMAN, P. ARGENTINA WHO ALL HAVE LEGISLATION IN THIS COMMITTEE TODAY. COUNCILMAN SCOTT REED HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE AND COUNCILMAN ENGEL WAS IN BUT I DON'T SEE HIM NOW. SO HE MAY ON VIRTUAL. HE MAY RETURN. UM SHORTLY SO IF HE DOESN'T WE WILL GIVE HIM A EXCUSED ABSENCE. SOME FOLKS ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH THE SYSTEM TODAY. SOME HOUSEKEEPING. THE FOLLOWING ITEMS WILL NOT BE CALLED TODAY AT THE REQUEST OF SPONSORS. ITEM NUMBER ONE. ITEM NUMBER SIX. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. ITEM NUMBER 10 AND I DON'T NUMBER 11 ON YOUR AGENDA. WE'RE GOING OUT OF ORDER A LITTLE BIT TODAY, SO THE FIRST THING WE'RE GOING TO HEAR IS ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, WHICH WAS TABLED AT OUR LAST MEETING, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE IMPOSING A TEMPORARY MORATORIUM AND DEVELOPMENT LOCATED WITHIN THE FLOYDS FORK SPECIAL DISTRICT. I[Pending Legislation]
NEED A MOTION AND SECOND ON TABLE. I'LL SHOOT. SECOND. MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAKER AND SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN WEBER. REYNAUD. WEBER. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION AND WILL RECOGNIZE COUNCILMAN P. ARGENTINE E. IT'S HIS LEGISLATION. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I'M GONNA ASK MY COLLEAGUES IF YOU REMEMBER WE DID HAVE SOME DISCUSSION OVER THIS AT THE LAST MEETING. WE DID AMEND IT MADE A SMALL LANGUAGE CHANGE RELATED TO THE EFFECTIVE DATE. I AM GOING TO ASK THAT WE GO AHEAD AND PASS THIS OUT OF COMMITTEE. BUT I WANT TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT ABOUT WHAT OUR INTENTION HERE IS. I'VE SAID PUBLICLY, IF YOU MY NEWSLETTERS AND OTHERS THAT I'M NOT A HUGE FAN OF THIS WORD MORATORIUM. IT'S A BLUNT FORCE TOOL THAT HAS UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT CAN COME OUT OF IT. THE INTENTION HERE WAS ALWAYS TO GET THE UPDATES TO THE FLOORS, FORK, D R O CODE OR LANGUAGE IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE. UH THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DELAYS FROM THE LAST ADMINISTRATION. THIS ADMINISTRATION PARTICULARLY RECENTLY HAS BEEN MOVING THAT FORWARD VERY, VERY AT A GREAT PACE. BUT I THINK THEY'VE DONE THE TEAM HAS DONE TERRIFIC WORK IN UPDATING THE LANGUAGE. WE JUST CLOSED OUT THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. I THINK, 48 HOURS AGO. UH THANK YOU. I SEE DIRECTOR LIU 24 HOURS AGO. OKAY SO WE JUST FINISHED THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THE PROCESS. MOVING FORWARD PLANNING A DESIGN WILL REVIEW THOSE PUBLIC COMMENTS POTENTIALLY MAKE UPDATES, SUBMIT THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHERE THEY WILL DEBATE IT HAVE ANOTHER PUBLIC HEARING. THE PUBLIC WILL STILL BE ABLE TO HAVE THEIR VOICE HEARD THERE. PLANNING COMMISSION WILL VOTE WILL COME TO US WHERE WE CAN DEBATE THAT AND CHANGE IT. I'M GOING TO FOLLOW THE DIRECTION OF WHAT I THINK COUNCILMAN COREY ARTHUR AND THOSE RELATED TO SHORT TERM RENTALS HAVE DEMONSTRATED. MY INTENTION IS TO PASS THIS IN CASE THERE ARE ANY SNAFUS TO THE PROCESS AND WE DO HAVE TO PASS THIS TO ENSURE THAT ALL, UH NEW DEVELOPMENTS MOVING FORWARD HAVE THE NEW STANDARDS APPLIED TO THEM. BUT IF THE ADMINISTRATION CONTINUES MOVE FORWARD, WHICH IT SEEMS LIKE THEY ARE, AND I REALLY APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING ON THIS, AND THERE'S NO RISK TO HAVING ANYTHING ELSE APPROVED UNDER THE OLD STANDARDS. I THINK MY INTENTION IS TO PASS THIS AND THEN HOLD IT AT COUNCIL AND ONLY TAKE IT UP IF NECESSARY. BUT AGAIN, I THINK, GIVEN THE PACE AND GIVEN THE CURRENT CIRCUMSTANCES, I DO HOPE AND IT IS MY INTENTION TO NOT HAVE TO DO THAT. BUT I THINK AGAIN FOLLOWING WHAT COUNCILMAN ARTHUR AND OTHERS RELATED SHORT TERM,[00:40:06]
UH, THE SHORT TERM RENTAL MORATORIUM HAVE DONE. WE WANT TO GET THIS PREPPED AND AT THE SAME TIME, HOLD IT. AND I THINK THE GOAL IS TO GET THE CHANGES AND IF THAT HAPPENS, THERE'S NO NEED TO PASS LEGISLATION LIKE THIS. SO WITH THAT I WOULD ASK IF THE COMMITTEE WOULD I WOULD APPRECIATE IT IF THE COMMITTEE COULD CONSIDER THIS PASSAGE. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I DON'T HAVE ANYBODY LOGGED IN. UM AND SINCE OUR ATTENDEES VIRTUALLY, UM, SINCE YOUR SYSTEM MAY NOT BE WORKING, ARE YOU? DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD? SEE NONE. THEN WE'LL GO AHEAD AND VOTE. BYE, HARRY. COUNCIL MEMBER RINA WEBER. HI. COUNCIL MEMBER BET, SEAN. ALL RIGHT. WHAT. WITHOUT OBJECTION, VOTING IS CLOSING.YES VOTES. THERE ARE FIVE YES VOTES, SO THIS WILL GO TO OLD BUSINESS BECAUSE IT WAS AMENDED LAST TIME AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIRWOMAN. THANK YOU.
MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. OUR NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS. WE'RE GOING TO JUMP DOWN TO ITEMS NUMBER 14 AND 15 BECAUSE THERE'S SOMEONE WHO'S GOING TO SPEAK FOR THOSE TODAY AND SHE CAN'T STAY FOR OUR WHOLE MEETING. AND WHY WOULD SHE WANT TO I DON'T EVER 14 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $15,000 OF FUNDING FROM THE KENTUCKY HERITAGE COUNCIL TO COMPLETE A NATIONAL REGISTRY HISTORIC DISTRICT NOMINATION FOR THE EXPANDED SOUTHERN HEIGHTS SPEECH. MARTIN HISTORIC DISTRICT TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE OFFICE OF PLANNING. I NEED A MOTION IN A SECOND. PROBABLY MOVED BY COUNCILOR BAKER AND SAY GOODBYE , COUNCIL WOMAN, RUI AND WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. I DON'T HAVE TO HIT IT. OKAY I'M USED TO OUR OLD JAIL. I'M SORRY. GOOD MORNING OR GOOD AFTERNOON. I SHOULD SAY THIS IS OUT OF A NEARBY YOURSELF. I'M SORRY.
SAVANNAH DURHAM HISTORIC PRESERVATION OFFICER FOR GLOBAL METRO. AND THIS IS OUT OF A GRANT PROGRAM THAT WE HAD OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS AND COUNCIL DISTRICT 21. WE RECEIVED A GRANT FUNDING FROM THE KENTUCKY HERITAGE COUNCIL TO DO A HISTORIC BUILDING SURVEY IN BEACH, MONT. NEIGHBORHOOD CITY OF LYNN VIEW AND I SPECIFIC STREET CALLED CUMBERLAND AVENUE IN DISTRICT 21. AND SO OUT OF THAT THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IN A DESIRE, UM, ESPECIALLY IN BEACH , MONT. AND THE CITY OF LIMB VIEW TO MOVE FORWARD WITH FURTHER GRAND OPPORTUNITY TO DO NATIONAL REGISTER DISTRICTS. THAT COVERS BOTH OF THE BOTH OF THESE RESOLUTIONS THAT ARE IN FRONT OF EXACTLY WE HAD TO SEPARATE GRANTS FROM THE SAME GRAND TOUR FOR THE TWO SEPARATE AREAS. THIS IS AN COUNCILWOMAN RUIZ DISTRICT. DID YOU WANT TO ADDRESS US WITH THESE OR DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I'LL JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT THERE WAS THE TUNE NEIGHBORHOODS. THE BEACH, MONT. NEIGHBORHOOD IS A LOT OF HOMES THAT ARE VERGING ON 100 YEARS OLD AND THEY REALLY BOUGHT UP THESE PLAQUES THAT WE GET THAT WE STARTED ORDERING SO EVERYBODY CAN PUT UP THERE HOW OLD THEIR HOMES ARE AND THAT THEIR HISTORIC AND THE CITY OF LYNN VIEW IS KIND OF INTERESTING BECAUSE THE CITY OF LYNN VIEW IS MIDCENTURY MODERN. AND SO THAT IS NOW QUALIFIES AS HISTORIC. WHICH IS PRETTY COOL. BUT YES, THAT WAS A LOT OF WORK THAT SAVANNAH AND HER TEAM DID TO RESEARCH ALL OF THIS, AND I KNOW THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN REALLY HAPPY TO SEE WHAT CAME OUT OF IT. THANK YOU. YOU KNOW? NO LIN LIN VIEW FROM BACK WHEN I WAS EVEN A CHILD. I LIVED UP THROUGH THAT AREA THAT IT'S AN UNIQUE LITTLE LITTLE CITY. I GUESS WHAT YOU KNOW IN THE HOUSING. IT'S VERY UNIQUE. I THINK YEAH, IT'S ALL IT'S ALL VERY DISTINCTIVE, AND IT'S A VERY WELL KEPT LITTLE NEIGHBORHOOD TO. YOU WOULDN'T EVEN KNOW HOW TIDY IT WAS, TOO.
YOU GOT BACK THERE. THANK YOU. UM I DON'T SEE ANYONE ELSE IN HERE ON TO SPEAK OR ASK QUESTIONS. THOSE VIRTUALLY. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING? SAYING NONE. UM IT'S A RESOLUTION THAT CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF ITEM NUMBER 14 THAT WE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD.
SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. BUT THAT WAS OPPOSED BY LIKE SCIENCE SEEN UNDER RESOLUTION PASSES AND
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WE'LL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 15 . IT'S A SEPARATE RESOLUTION, BUT WE DID COVER IT AS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $10,000 OF FUNDING FROM THE KENTUCKY HERITAGE COUNCIL TO COMPLETE A NATIONAL REGISTER NATIONAL REGISTER HISTORIC DISTRICT NOMINATION FOR THE LAND VIEW HISTORIC DISTRICT TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE OFFICE OF PLANNING. PROBABLY MOVED BY COUNCILOR BAKER SECOND BY COUNCILWOMAN RUI WE SOMEONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS, AND WE KIND OF ALREADY COVERED THAT SCENE? NONE IT'S A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A VOICE VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. THAT WAS OPPOSED BY LIKE SAN HEARING. NONE OF THIS WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AT OUR NEXT MEETING. MOVING RIGHT ALONG WE ARE HOLDING. I DON'T NUMBER ONE. UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING, AND THEN IT BRINGS US TO NUMBER TWO IS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE ZONING AND FORMED DISTRICT OF PROPERTY LOCATED AT 75, OR FOUR PRESTON HIGHWAY CONTENT CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 1.65 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE METRO CASE NUMBER 22 ZONE, 0115. IT'S A MOTION TO INTAKE ABLE GO AHEAD. BOTH MOTIONS TABLED MOTION BY COUNCILMAN BAKER, A SECOND BY COUNCIL WOMAN RULING WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION, AND BRIAN, YOU DID COVER THIS AT THE LAST MEETING, AND WE WERE WAITING TO HEAR FROM COUNSEL AND SAM WHOSE DISTRICT OF THIS BUT HE IN HIS DEFENSE TO HE DID SEND ME AN EMAIL, BUT THE MEETING HAD BEGUN, AND I USUALLY DON'T CHECK MY EMAILS. ONCE THE MEANING IS HAS STARTED BECAUSE WE'RE JUST SO BUSY, BUT COUNCILMAN SCIENCE DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WANTED TO ADD TO IT? THIS WAS THE DENIAL OF THAT PROPERTY. UM, ON PRESTON HIGHWAY. DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING THAT YOU WANTED TO ADD SUPPORT OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATIONS? YES AND YOU DO HAVE A VOTE ON THIS ALSO. SO UM, DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK WE'RE ALL GOT EVERYTHING ANSWERED LAST TIME, SO JUST TO BE CLEAR THAT A YES VOTE IS TO UPHOLD THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS DENIAL. OF THIS CASE, SO IF YOU'LL GO AHEAD AND OPEN THE VOTING, CHERYL. VICE CHAIR, READ COUNSELOR MARINA WEBER. YES COUNCIL MEMBER BET, SEAN.PRESIDENT. SORRY I'M TRYING TO GET MY COMPUTER ON DAISY PRESENT PRESENT. COUNCIL MEMBER SIGN.
WITHOUT OBJECTION, VOTING IS CLOSING. THERE. THERE WERE SIX YES VOTES AND ONE PRESENT AND THIS WILL GO TO A BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN SAM. ITEM NUMBER THREE IS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO ZONING OF PROPERTY LOCATED. 1 11 NORTH WENZEL STREET CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.0484. 0.048 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE MENTAL CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE 0046.
PROPERLY MADE BY COUNCILMAN BAKER AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR MONROE. WE WERE READY FOR DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, BRIAN DAVIS. LITTLE METRO PLAYING IN THE OFFICE OF PLANNING. SORRY UM, I HAVE A PRESENTATION. CHERYL, IF YOU COULD OLIVIA, YOU CAN SWITCH TO ME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS IS PLAYING COMMISSION DOCKET NUMBER 23 ZONE 46 FOR BUTCHER BLOCK 111 . THE PROPERTY IS 1 11 NORTH WENZEL STREET IS LOCATED. METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. THIS IS A SUBJECT PROPERTY OUTLINED IN RED ON THE AERIAL PHOTO IS IT IS AN EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURE IS PROPOSING TO REZONE THE PROPERTY AND USE IT FOR COMMERCIAL USE. THIS IS THE ZONING AN AREA AS YOU CAN SEE, YOU HAVE A VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS THAT SURROUND THE PROPERTY. IT IS CURRENTLY ZONED R SIX. THEY'RE PROPOSING THE CHANGE THAT ZONING DESIGNATION TO SEE TO COMMERCIAL THAT'S THE REQUEST IS CHANGE. MARCH 6TH C TWO SITES CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE, WHICH WHICH WILL BE PRESERVED. THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY EXTERNAL CHANGES. UH AND I'LL OF PARKING FOR THE SITE WILL BE WILL BE UTILIZING STREET PARKING. SO HERE IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN IF YOU WOULD, WHICH SHOWS THE EXISTING CONDITIONS ON THE SITE, YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE OF THE STRUCTURE AS IT SITS. THIS IS A THE HOUSE IN THE CENTER OF THE PHOTO FOR THE HOUSE ON THE RIGHT OF THE TWO HOUSES. THAT IS THE ONE THAT IS THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. UH HERE'S SOME ADJOINING PROPERTY,
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JOINING PROPERTY PHOTOS LOOKING TO THE NORTH AND AS WELL TO THE SOUTH TO THE SOUTH. YOU HAVE A PARKING LOT THE FRONTS OUT ONTO MADDEN MAIN THERE. ANOTHER PARKING LOT LOCATED TO THE TO THE WEST. THE APPLICANT HAD THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON MARCH 29TH 2023 PLAN DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING WAS ON APRIL 27 2023 PLANNING COMMISSION COULD HAVE CONDUCTED THEIR PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 1ST 2023. THEIR THEIR MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE CHANGE IN ZONING FROM OUR SIX TO SEE TO THAT PASSED BY VOTERS, 7 TO 0. THAT'S OTHER HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME? THIS IS AN COUNCILMAN COREY AUTHORS DISTRICT AND WE HAD HELPED THIS LAST TIME BECAUSE HE COULDN'T MAKE THE MEETING. AND UM, I THINK HE MAY HAVE A ISSUE WITH HIS SCHEDULING FOR TODAY. UM SO, UM WE HAVE SOME TIME. THAT WE COULD TABLE IT AND WAIT FOR HIM TO PARTICIPATE IN IF HE HAS ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS, AND IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY WILL GO AHEAD AND ADDRESS THOSE NOW. PROBABLY MAYBE A SECOND ON FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE. THAT WAS OPPOSED BY LIKE SIGN. HEARING SCENE AND THEN HEARING THEN THE MOTION CARRIES. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE RECORD REFLECTS THAT WE WERE JOINED JUST SHORTLY AFTER WE STARTED WITH COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. UM THANK YOU, AND ALSO WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN A WIN. THANK YOU.MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FOUR IS AN ORDINANCE RELATED TO THE ZONING OF PROPERTIES LOCATED AT 40, 27 AND 40 29 CHURCHMAN AVENUE CONTAINING APPROXIMATELY 0.247 ACRES AND BEING LEVEL METRO CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE 0017. PERP PROBABLY MOVE BACK. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL SECOND BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION DOCKET NUMBER 23 ZONE . 17 THE NAME OF THE APPLICATIONS ROMERO MANNER PLANT. SEE OLIVIA, IF YOU COULD BRING UP MY PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. SO THIS IS THE, UH THE I'M SORRY. THE SUBJECT PROPERTIES ARE 40 27 AND 40 29 CHURCHMAN AVENUE. THEY'RE LOCATED METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT 15. THIS IS AN OUTLINE OF THE OF THE PROPERTY IN QUESTION ON AN AERIAL PHOTO. YOU CAN SEE THAT THE AREAS PRIMARILY RESIDENTIAL, THEY ARE PROPOSING RESIDENTIAL USE ON THE SIDE. THE REQUEST BEFORE USE THE CHANGES OWNING FROM OUR FIVE TO YOU IN YOU CAN SEE THAT THE SURROUNDING ZONING IN THE AREAS PRIMARILY ARE FIVE. SO THE REQUEST AGAIN IS TO CHANGE THE ZONING FROM OUR FIVE SINGLE FIVE PRESIDENTIAL TO YOU AND URBAN NEIGHBORHOOD. UM THE AFRICANS PROPOSING TO SUBDIVIDE AND EXISTING LOT INTO TWO LOTS FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF AN ADDITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOME.
THE PROPERTY WAS ORIGINALLY TWO TRACKS AT THE TIME OF THE RECORD PLANT, WHICH IS FROM RECORD PLANT TO PAGE 51. SO IT'S AN OLDER RECORD PLANT. UM EACH OF THE PROPOSED LOTS ARE PROPOSED BEFORE 1004 100 SQUARE FEET. SO THE THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING HOUSE AS IT SITS ON ON THE PROPERTY, AND THEN THE ADVOCATE WOULD BASICALLY IS BASICALLY PROPOSING TO PUT THE PROPERTY LINE BACK FROM WHERE IT WAS PREVIOUSLY CONSOLIDATED IN ORDER TO CREATE TWO LOTS AND THEN THEY WOULD CONSTRUCT A NEW HOUSE ON THE LIGHT THAT WOULD BE VACANT.
THESE ARE SITE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HERE SO YOU CAN SEE THE EXISTING HOUSE AS WELL AS THE VACANT PORTION OF THE SITE. UM, THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JANUARY. 24TH 2023 GMT MEETINGS ON MAY 18TH 2023 AND THEN THE PLANNING QUESTION PUBLIC HEARINGS ON JUNE 15TH 2023 THE PLANNING COMMISSIONS MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE CHANGES OWNING FROM OUR FIVE SORRY TO U. N THAT PASSED BY A VOTE OF 8 TO 0.
THAT'S ALL THAT I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME. THIS IS SAYING COUNCILWOMAN CHAPELS DISTRICT WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS US CAMPING BORN? SURE I WOULD JUST SAY THAT. I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL VOTE. YES IN FAVOR OF THIS . UM HAZELWOOD IS AN AREA OF MY DISTRICT THAT, UM, NEEDS AND DESERVES ATTENTION, SO IT'S REALLY WONDERFUL TO HEAR THAT THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR A SINGLE FAMILY HOME TO GO ON THE SPOT. UM, AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, MY OFFICE DEALS A LOT WITH COMPLAINTS ABOUT DUMPING ON CAYUGA. AND SO AS WE INCREASE
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THE DENSITY AND YOU KNOW, HAVE PEOPLE INVESTING IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. IT'LL BE WONDERFUL TO SEE. UM, HOPEFULLY OCCURRED TO THAT DUMPING. SO THANK YOU ALL. ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM THOSE WHO ARE VIRTUALLY ARE THEY ABLE TO, UM, ACCESS THE SYSTEM TO SAY THAT THING? NO.OKAY? KASMAN. RONALD WEBER. DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? NO THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I CAN'T SEE YOU ALL THE PEOPLE. SEE YOUR SMILING FACES. YES THANK THANK YOU, IS IT OKAY SPEAKING MANAGER? GO AHEAD. UM SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS MORE FOR BRIAN AND THINK THIS MAY HAVE BEEN ANSWERED ONCE BEFORE, BUT JUST CAN PROFESSIONAL MEMORY. UM, MR DAVIS. IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SINGLE FAMILY GROWING ON THAT UNIT ON THAT PROPERTY, WHAT'S THE POINT OF CHANGING IT FROM OUR FIVE OR, UM TO YOU? AND WHAT'S THE BENEFITS? YOUR PROJECT CONCEPT THAT SURE. SO THE AS I MENTIONED THIS WAS ORIGINALLY RECORDED IN PLAT BOOK , TOO. SO THE LOT SIZE REQUIREMENTS WERE MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THEY ARE TODAY. SO UM, YOU KNOW, ORIGINALLY IT WAS CREATED WITH THESE 4 4400 SQUARE FOOT LOTS, BUT THAT DOES NOT MEET OUR REQUIREMENTS FOR THE R FIVE DISTRICT TODAY. SO THE REASON FOR THE FOR THE CHANGES TO CHANGES IT TO YOU IN WHICH HAS A SMALLER MINIMUM LIFE SIZE THAT WILL ALLOW THIS SUBDIVISION BUT THEN THE U. N UH, LIKE THE DENSITY OF THAT IS ONE UNIT AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S BASICALLY A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. AND SO THIS WILL THIS WILL ALLOW THE RECREATION OF THIS LOT, WHEREAS YOU CAN'T DO THAT THROUGH THE R FIVE. UM, ZONING DISTRICT. YOU CAN DO THAT, THROUGH OUR FOUR OF THEM RIGHT BEFORE IS EVEN BIGGER. SO ARE FOUR MINIMUM LOT SIZE 9000 OR FIVE IS A 6000 U N 2500. SO IT'S A MUCH SMALLER MINIMUM SIZE, BUT IT'S STILL LIMITS THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE SITE TO ONE UNIT AND SO THAT THAT'S WHY THE U. N IS A GOOD FIT FOR THIS KIND OF RETROFIT OF THE LOT. OKAY ONE LAST QUESTION.
IF THAT'S OKAY, MADAM CHAIR. UM ON YOU AND I'M TRYING TO FIND IT IN THE L. D. C CODE, BUT IT'S OBVIOUSLY 940 PAGES. UM WHAT ARE THE REQUIREMENTS? WHAT CAN AND CANNOT GO ON YOU MAN IS THEIR COMMERCIAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR YOU IN OR NOT? NO IT'S A IT IS A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. UM USE AND SO THERE WOULD NOT BE ANY COMMERCIAL USES. THAT WOULD BE PERMITTED ON THAT ON THAT IN THAT ZONING CLASSIFICATION. OKAY. THANK YOU FOR ANSWERING THOSE QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE IT. SEE NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. I BELIEVE WE'RE READY FOR A VOTE, PLEASE. VICE CHAIR, RE COUNSELOR RENO WEBER. I. WITHOUT OBJECTION. VOTING IS CLOSING. THERE ARE SIX YES, VOTES, AND THIS WILL GO TO BROTHERS. SEVEN ON WHAT SAYING SIX. YOU HAVE SEVEN. SOMEONE NOT BOAT. AMY BAKER WEBER CHAPEL. SIX YES VOTES. THIS WILL GO. TO OKAY? SIX YEARS BELTS AND THIS WILL GO TO OH, BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT MEETING. BEFORE WE MOVED TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE. I FAILED TO MENTION THAT THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PERCENT OF KRS 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE OF FIVE. A MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER FIVE, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE ZONING AND FORMED DISTRICT OF PROPERTIES LOCATED 923,200 HIGHWAY CONTAINED APPROXIMATELY 103.7 ACRES AND BEING A LITTLE METRO CASE NUMBER 23 ZONE 00. TO ZERO PROBABLY MADE BACK COUNCILWOMAN RUINED SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN BAKER. WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. THIS IS PLANNING COMMISSION. DOCKET NUMBER 23 ZONE. 20 IT IS, UH, THE NAME OF THE PROJECT. SALVI REZONING PROPERTIES IN QUESTION ARE 923,200 DIXIE HIGHWAY. THEY ARE LOCATED METRO COUNCIL
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DISTRICT 14. THIS IS AN OUTLINE OF THE OF THE PROPERTY. IT IS CURRENTLY RESIDENT USED FOR RESIDENTIAL IN VACANT. THE PROPOSED USES RESIDENTIAL AND INDUSTRIAL, UM AS FAR AS THE EXISTING ZONING, YOU HAVE R FOUR C ONE AND C TWO ZONING ON THE PROPERTY, LOCATED IN TWO DIFFERENT FORM DISTRICTS. THE GREEN LINE THAT BY SEX TO THE PROPERTY. THAT'S THE FORM DISTRICT LINE. SO YOU HAVE SUBURBAN MARKETPLACE CORRIDOR ON THE DIXIE HIGHWAY SIDE OF THAT GREEN LINE, AND THEN YOU HAVE NEIGHBORHOOD ON THE BACKSIDE OF THE AFRICAN IS PROPOSING TO REZONE PORTIONS OF THE SITE TO SEE HIM, WHICH IS COMMERCIAL MANUFACTURING, UH, AND TO CHANGE THE FORM DISTRICT TO SUBURBAN MARKETPLACE CORRIDOR. SO THE REQUEST AGAIN IS TO CHANGE THE FORM DISTRICT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUBURBAN MARKETPLACE CORRIDOR TO SIMPLY SUBURBAN MARKETPLACE CORRIDOR. AND THEN THE CHANGES OWNING FROM R. FOUR C ONE AND C TWO TO C. M. UM SO THE SITE IS PARTIALLY DEVELOPED WITH THE MOBILE HOME PARK, WHICH IS NOT BEING REZONED. NOR IS THERE ANY DISTURBANCE TO THE TO THE HOMES ARE LOCATED WITHIN THE PARK. UM THE APPLICANT IS NOT PROPOSING ANY DEVELOPMENT PLAN AT THIS TIME, SO IT'S A IT'S A IT'S A GENERAL PLAN WHERE YOU KNOW THE REQUEST IS TO REZONE THAT AND THEN THEY WOULD COME BACK IN THE FUTURE. UH, IF AND WHEN THEY HAVE DEVELOPMENT READY FOR THE REST OF THE SITE. UH SO THIS IS THE GENERAL GENERAL PLAN THAT WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT THE AREAS IN BLUE I SHADED IN BECAUSE THOSE AREAS THAT ZONING IS NOT CHANGING. UH AND SO THE AREAS IN WIDE THAT YOU SEE FOR THE REST OF THE SITE THAT IS THE AREA WHERE THEY'RE PROPOSING TO CHANGE CM AS WELL AS THE ACCESS ROAD THAT COMES OFF OF DIXIE HIGHWAY BACK TO THE SITE. THE RED DASHES THE CURRENT FORM DISTRICT BOUNDARY, SO THE FORM DISTRICT WILL BE MOVED BACK TO THE SOLID RED LINE, WHICH IS AT THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY SO AGAIN THAT THE REQUEST IS THAT ALL THE WHITE BE CHANGED THE CME . AS FAR AS HIS ONLY DISTRICT GOES AND THAT THE FORMER DISTRICT WE CHANGED THE SUBURBAN MARKETPLACE. THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS OF THE SUBJECT PROPERTY. THIS IS THAT ACCESS ROAD THAT YOU SAW HERE. THIS IS JUST A PHOTO LOOKING BACK INTO THE SITE. THE APPLICANT CONDUCTED THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING ON JANUARY 24 2023 LAND DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMTTEE MEETINGS ARE MADE. THINK 2023 AND THEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION CONDUCTED THEIR PUBLIC HEARING ON JUNE 15TH 2023. THEY HAD TWO MOTIONS. THE FIRST WAS EMOTION RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE CHANGING ZONING FROM R FOUR C ONE AND C 22 CM. THEY PASSED BY VOTE OF 8 TO 0 AND THEN THE MOTION TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL. THE CHANGE IN THE FORM DISTRICT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD TO SUBURBAN MARKETPLACE CORRIDOR ALSO PASSED BY A VOTE OF 8 TO 0. AND IT'S ALL THAT I HAVE IN CHEVY QUESTIONS FOR ME. BRI WHAT IS WHAT ARE THEY PROPOSING TO PUT ON THE SIDE? NOTHING AT THIS TIME. SO, UM YEAH, AGAIN, ANGI TWOM. TH'S T K CRC R THE SITE ATHIS TIME SO THEY WOULD NEED TO COME BACK WITH THE DETAILED DISTRICT DEVELOPMENT PLAN IN THE FUTURE.UH IF AND WHEN THEY CHOOSE TO DEVELOP IT. SO CAN I ASK THE QUESTION? NO SO. I'M I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED AS TO WHY THEY WOULD WANT TO REZONE WITHOUT A PLAN. AND THAT. WE DON'T SEE IT OFTEN, BUT IT I MEAN, IT DOES HAPPEN FROM TIME TO TIME AND, YOU KNOW, THEY JUST THEY JUST DO NOT HAVE ANYONE THAT IS INTERESTED IN THE PARCEL AT THIS TIME, BUT THEY THEY'RE INTERESTED IN CHANGING THE ZONING, UH, IN SECURING TO SEE IN PROPERTY BEFORE THEY MARKET IT AND SO THAT THAT IS WHY THEY SUBMITTED THE APPLICATION. OKAY SO THEN ON THAT WITH THE ZONING THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING THAT THEY COULD DO ANYTHING, INCLUDING LARGE MANUFACTURING IN THAT ON THAT SITE, NOT LARGE, NOT LARGE, SO THE C M OR THE CME DISTRICT. ITS USES ARE RESTRICTED TO M ONE AND C TWO USES. SO IT'S KIND OF A HYBRID AGAIN. KIND OF A HYBRID. SO THAT YOUR YOUR LITTLE LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL AND WAREHOUSE USES AS WELL AS AS YOUR COMMERCIAL USES.
SO IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO SAY IF YOU'RE GOING TO? I MEAN, JUST BECAUSE IT IS IN THE MIDDLE OF A RESIDENTIAL AREA. YOU KNOW IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO MANUFACTURING OR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT IMPACT THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS ARE BINDING ELEMENT. WE CAN SAY THAT YOU HAVE TO COME BACK OR SOMETHING ALONG THOSE LINES. I MEAN, WE WOULD WE WOULD LOOK AT AT ALL. YOU KNOW ANY BUFFERING REQUIREMENTS WHENEVER THEY DO COME BACK WITH THE DETAILED PLAN, BUT THIS THIS MAY BE AN EXAMPLE OF WHERE THE BINDING ELEMENT THAT YOU HAVE BEEN PLACING ON SOME OF THE ZONING DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, OR SOME DESIGN REZONING WHERE YOU CAN INSERT THAT TO HAVE IT COME BACK TO METRO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. THANKS. WE'VE BEEN JOINED BY COUNCILMAN REED. GO AHEAD, TRAVIS. I'M HAPPY TO READ THAT LANGUAGE INTO THE RECORD, IF YOU ALL WOULD LIKE UM. ANY
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SIGNIFICANT INCREASES. THE PRO STRUCTURES INCREASES IN BUILDING HEIGHT NUMBER OF UNITS, NUMBER OF BUILDINGS, ANY INCREASE IN DENSITY ON THE PROPERTY ANY CHANGES IN USE ON THE PROPERTY, WHICH DIRECTLY OR INDIRECTLY REQUIRED PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION OR SUBCOMMITTEE THEREOF, AND OR ANY AMENDMENTS TO THE BINDING ELEMENTS OTHER THAN ONE CONDITION OF NEW BINDING ELEMENTS TO CHANGES DIVIDING ELEMENTS THAT MERELY UPDATE THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE OR THREE? UPDATING YOUR PREVIOUS VERSION OF THIS BINDING ELEMENT TO REFLECT THE CURRENT LANGUAGE SHALL BE REVIEWED BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, WITH FINAL ACTION TO BE DETERMINED BY METRO COUNCIL. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN RONALD WEBER. YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE THAT LANGUAGE, AND WE NEED A SECOND. COUNCILMAN BAKER HAS SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 13 GOING TO BE AS READ BY COUNTY ATTORNEY ASSISTANT TRAVIS FEASTER SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. THAT WAS OPPOSED BY LIFETIME SCENE AND THE MOTION CARRIES. UM THIS IS AN COUNCILWOMAN CINDY FOWLER'S DISTRICT IN CINDY APPEARED TO RIGHT CAME IN RIGHT BEFORE THE MEETING STARTED. SHE IS SHE IS OKAY WITH THIS. UM, THIS YEAH, BUT THIS CHANGE IN ZONING. I THINK THEIR HOLD ON SOMETHING ELSE POPPED OUT OF MY SCREEN., T CURIOUS TO UNDERSTAND THE TRAILER PARK THAT'S IN THE FRONT OF THAT ARE THE PLANS RIGHT NOW TO CLOSE THAT DOWN. HOW'S THAT WORKING? NO, THEY'LL THEY'LL CONTINUE TO OPERATE THAT. AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE IF YOU LOOK AT THE BINDING ELEMENT, THERE WAS ACTUALLY A BINDING ELEMENT THAT WAS CRAFTED, UH, IN AN EFFORT TO PROVIDE NOTIFICATION AND GIVE ADVANCED NOTICE TO THE RESIDENTS SHOULD THEY PROPOSED TO CLOSE IT? BUT THE APPLICANTS, THEY STRESSED DURING THE TESTIMONY AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT THEY HAVE NO PLANS OF CLOSING THE MOBILE HOME PARK AT THIS TIME. IS IT A BINDING ELEMENT? THAT'S VERY GOOD. THANK YOU BUYING AMONG KICKS IN AND SAYS THEY WILL GIVE HIM ONE YEAR'S NOTICE, TOO. SO THAT THERE WILL BE SOME TIME AND THAT AND THAT BINDING ELEMENT COVERS THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. THEY WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT WAS IN THERE, SO IT'S BINDING ELEMENT NUMBER 11. COUNCILMAN THAT SEAN . THANK YOU, MANAGER. UM BRIAN, JUST JUST FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. CAN YOU GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT? UM LIKE A CM PROPERTY. LOOKS LIKE JUST, UM, OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD AND YOU THINK OF ONE, SO WE FREQUENTLY CCM USE FOR LIKE LIKE A WAREHOUSE FOR SOME SORT OF DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSE. IT ALSO PERMITS LIKE, LIKE MANY WAREHOUSES. IN THE C E. M THOSE ARE PERMITTED USE THEIR THEY DON'T NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT LIKE THEY WOULD IF THEY'RE PROPOSING THE C TWO BUT THEN ALSO AGAIN WITH THE WITH THE, UH, PERMITTING THE C TWO USES YOU CAN HAVE ANY VARIETY OF COMMERCIAL USES. GO ON ON THE PROPERTY, TOO. SO IT IT AGAIN. IT'S A HYBRID. ZONING DISTRICT. AND SO THERE IS SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE IN TERMS OF THE USES, BUT IT'S NOT LIKE THE HEAVY YOU DON'T YOU DON'T GET INTO THE M TWO AND M THREE INDUSTRIAL USES IT STAYS WITH THE M ONE. SO IT'S YOUR LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL USES THAT ARE PERMITTED ON THE ON THE CME PROPERTIES. LIKE UPS, KEEP COMING AND PUT A WAREHOUSE THERE AT SOME POINT THAT, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, RIGHT. YEAH. I MEAN, IT SEEMS TO ME WITH WITH THE SIZE OF THAT, THEN YEAH, IT WOULD. IT WOULD BE IDEAL FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THANK YOU.COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. SURE THIS ONE SEEMS JUST A LITTLE BUSY BECAUSE I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND COUNSEL THEM. YOU KNOW WEBER'S SENTIMENTAL AND THERE'S NO DEVELOPMENT PLAN. AND SO THERE'S KIND OF SEEMS LIKE WE'RE GIVING A LONG LEASH TO A POSSIBILITY HERE. UNKNOWN POSSIBILITY. SO, UM. I DON'T KNOW IF THERE IS A DIFFERENT ZONING. I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S ATTRACTIVE, ESPECIALLY FROM, UH. SELLING OF REAL ESTATE TO HAVE A UNIFORM. ZONING TO THIS UM, I'M JUST WONDERING THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF INVESTMENT IN DIXIE HIGHWAY AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. CAN ANYONE SPEAK TO HOW THIS WOULD YOU KNOW IF THIS IS LOOKED UPON FAVORABLY IN THAT PLAN, UM THIS KIND OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THEN ALSO, I WOULD MAYBE LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE. I KNOW THAT YOU SAID COUNCILMAN FOWARD. DID. LOOK AT IT. UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE I WOULD FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE SPEAKING TO HER DIRECTLY, ALTHOUGH I COMPLETELY ADDRESSED YOU, COUNCILWOMAN BLOOD. AT I DO KNOW, JUST INITIALLY WITH THEIR PRE APPLICATION THEY HAD TALKED ABOUT DOING THREE WAREHOUSES ON
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THE SITE. BUT AGAIN, I THINK WITH WITH NOT HAVING ANY IDENTIFIED USERS FOR THOSE THAT THAT'S WHY THEY KIND OF CHOSE TO SCALE BACK AND NOT HAVE A DETAILED PLAN JUST TO HAVE A GENERAL PLAN. UM, I DON'T KNOW. HOW MUCH OF AN EVALUATION WE DID. AS FAR AS LIKE DIXIE HIGHWAY CORRIDOR STUDIES. I'D HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE FOUL OF IT. DEEPER FOR THAT. WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THAT PROJECT. IS THAT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING. WHICH WOULD BE ALL RIGHT. YEAH MAYBE OUR OTHER ARM THAT WE NOW HAVE WITH THECED PLANNING FOLKS SO THAT WE COULD LOOK INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. OKAY MAYBE IT WOULD BE GOOD TO FIND OUT WHO THE STEWARD IS OF THAT PROJECT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW? IT'S BEING MET. MOTION TO TABLE. I THINK THEY'RE GONNA ADDRESS SOMETHING HERE. YEAH I MEAN, BECAUSE IT'S A GENERAL PLAN. WE WOULD NOT NECESSARILY LOOK AT LIKE THE CORRIDOR STUDIES IN AND MAKE A COMPARISON THERE JUST BECAUSE THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT PROPOSING ANYTHING RIGHT NOW. THEY'RE JUST PROPOSING ZONING DISTRICTS, AND SO WE GENERALLY FIND THAT THE ZONING DISTRICTS ARE OKAY. GIVEN THE WEALTH. MOST OF THE SITE IS IN THE SUBURBAN MARKETPLACE CORRIDOR AND GIVEN THIS LOCATION SO ARE YOU KNOW, WE CAN GENERALLY ACCEPT THAT? ONCE THEY COME BACK WITH THE DETAILED PLAN, THEN WE WOULD TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT WHAT THEY'RE PROPOSING. AND COMPARE THAT TO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN ANY ANY CORRIDOR, NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN SENATOR EFFECT FOR THE AREA, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHY SO THAT'S MISSING RIGHT NOW. OKAY YOU JUST SPEND A LOT OF TIME ON STUDIES, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT INVESTMENT THAT WE MAKE IN TIME AND MONEY IS BEING FOLLOWED THROUGH WITH THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BAKER . THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. JUST JUST WANTED FOR CLARITY, PURPOSES. WANT TO MAKE SURE SO IF WE PASS THIS THROUGH, WITH THE BONDING ELEMENT REQUIRED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL, AND THEY'RE ALSO WILL BE REVIEWED BY THE PLANNING. UH YOU HAVE TO KIND OF PRETTY MUCH BE REVIEWED BY YOUR OFFICE AND WOULD THEY BE REQUIRED TO FIND FOLLOW THE PATTERN BOOK AS WELL. THEY WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SUBMIT A DETAILED PLAN FOR ANY WORK THAT THEY'RE GOING TO DO ON THE SIDE, SO WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT AND SEE HOW THE LINES WITH THE PATTERN BOOKS EXACTLY. YEAH YEAH, WITH EVERYTHING, AND THEN YOU KNOW THAT WOULD THAT AND THEN SINCE YOU'RE ADDING THAT BITING ELEMENT THAT WOULD BE THAT WOULD GO TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION WHO WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO METRO COUNCIL. SO YOU ALL WOULD WOULD GET FINAL REVIEW OF THAT. OKAY SO THERE'S A COUPLE OF BUFFERS IN PLACE BEFORE WE RIGHT THANK YOU. AND IF I MIGHT ADD JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TO THAT TRANSFIXED ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY NOT ONLY WITH PLAYING IN DESIGN REVIEW, WHATEVER EVENTUAL PLAN CAME FORWARD, BUT SO ALL THE AGENCIES MSD WILL TAKE A LOOK. PUBLIC WORKS WILL TAKE A LOOK IN CASE THEIR ACCESS MANAGEMENT CONCERNS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, BIG ON DIXIE HIGHWAY, SO IT THAT WHENEVER THE EVENTUAL DETAILED PLAN DOES COME THROUGH , IT'S EFFECTIVELY A RESET OF THE SITE. I MEAN, THE ZONING IS IN PLACE, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE HAS GOT TO BE LOOKED AT.IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO TABLE THIS, IT'S PERFECTLY WITHIN YOUR PURVIEW. RIGHT? THEY'RE HAVING A SIDEBAR. SURE. AND WHATEVER RECOMMENDATIONS THERE ARE IN IN THE CORRIDOR PLAYING. WE WOULD WORK WITH PUBLIC WORKS IN THE STATE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS AS PART OF ALL THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS TO BE COMFORTABLE IN THEIR VOTE AND COMFORTABLE IN, UM, DOING WHAT WE'RE DOING, BECAUSE WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE TO PROTECT IT. WITHDRAWAL MANAGEMENT TABLE.
OKAY SO COUNCILMAN BET, SEAN. UM YOU KNOW, JUST KIND OF LOOKING OVER ALL OF THIS, AND I THINK THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. SORRY ABOUT THAT, UM WITH THE BAND ELEMENTS IN PLACE. I THINK THAT IS, I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT IT'S OKAY TO MOVE FORWARD IT ALONG. IT HAS TO COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE ANYTHING IS DONE. UM, OBVIOUSLY, I AGREE WITH COUNCILMAN CHAPEL OF, YOU KNOW. NOT WASTING TIME, MONEY AND EFFORT INTO, YOU KNOW, DOING EXTRA STUDIES ON TOP OF THE STUDIES HAVE ALREADY DONE I THINK. OUR BONNIE ELLEN UNITS ARE IN PLACE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T JUST SEND THINGS TO DO AND I THINK IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT WE COULD MOVE THIS FORWARD AS LONG AS ALL OF THIS STUFF IS ASSURED THAT ACCOUNTING ATTORNEY'S OFFICE THAT IT WILL COME BACK TO COUNCIL BEFORE ANY ANY DEVELOPMENTS OR PLANS ARE DESIGNED OR SOLD, OR OR WHATEVER
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THE CASE MAY BE ON THIS PROPERTY. UM SO I'M I MEAN, SUPPORTIVE. EITHER WAY, I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WELL WITH WHOEVER NEEDS TO BE HAD, BUT, UM , TRANSFORMING CHAPEL AND SUB MOTION TO TABLE FOUND THAT IS WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD. WE CAN DO THAT AS WELL. SHE WITHDREW HER MOTION. UM SO, UM, I THINK THE CONSENSUS IS THEY'RE READY TO VOTE BECAUSE OF THE PROTECTION OF BITING MOMENTS. WITHOUT OBJECTION, VOTING IS CLOSING.EXCUSE ME OPENED THE VOTING. I'M SORRY. WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE EVERYTHING TODAY. I NEED TO VOTE BY VOICE. MADAM CHAIR, PLEASE. VICE CHERRY. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RENO WEBER. YES. WITHOUT OBJECTION, VOTING HIS CLOSING. THERE ARE SEVEN YES VOTES, AND THIS WILL GO TO A BUSINESS AT OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING.
WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER NINE AND AT THIS TIME I WOULD ASK THAT IF I COULD HAVE COUNCILMAN REED, COULD YOU POSSIBLY TAKE OVER THE MEETING FOR JUST A FEW SECONDS WHERE AN ITEM NUMBER NINE AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO? I DON'T NUMBER 13. ARE YOU? ARE YOU ON A PLANE? I AM ON A PLANE. YES, JUST GETTING OFF THE PLANE. DO YOU NEED TO LEAVE? I MEAN, DO YOU NEED THAT? I NEED IT IF YOU COULD COME BACK TO THAT AND MAYBE FIVE MINUTES, OKAY, LET NEVER MIND. WE'LL GO TO ITEM NUMBER. WE'LL GO TO ITEMS AND ITEM NUMBER NINE AND WELL, I ASKED. CANCEL WOMAN CHAPEL IF YOU WILL TAKE OVER THE COMMITTEE . AFTER I READ THIS INTO THE RECORD, I NEED TO TAKE CARE OF SOME PERSONAL BUSINESS, AND THEN I'LL COME BACK BECAUSE THEY WILL BE NUMBER NINE AND THEN NUMBER 13. UM NUMBER NINE IS AN ORNATE RELATED TO THE CLOSURE OF THE PORTION OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE BETWEEN DURING PLANE AND THE WATERSON EXPRESSWAY CONTAINED APPROXIMATELY 7004 SQUARE FEET AND BEING A LITTLE METRO CASE NUMBER 23 STREET CLOSURES, 007.
PROPERLY MOVING. PROBABLY MAYBE THAT SECOND WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION, BRIAN. THANK YOU.
YES, PLEASE. THIS IS PLAYING COMMISSION. DOCTOR NUMBER 23 STREET CLOSURE SEVEN FOR ROOSEVELT PORTION OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE, SO THIS PORTION OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE IS LOCATED JUST SOUTH OF THE WATERSON. OKAY, METRO COUNCIL DISTRICT, 21. AH THIS IS THE RIGHT OF WAY OUTLINED IN RED HERE. SO THIS IS THE LOUISVILLE DIVE CENTER ON THE ON THE RIGHT. AND THEN THIS IS THE CARPENTERS UNION PLACE THAT YOU CAN SEE FROM THE WATERSON. JUST KIND OF GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WHERE WE'RE AT THE RIGHT AWAY, CURRENTLY TEASING THE DIRT LANE AND ENDS THERE. ON THIS SIDE. THERE IS A PORTION OF OUR NAMED RIGHT AWAY ROOSEVELT AVENUE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE OF THE WATERSON. SO THAT THAT PEACEFUL REMAIN. SO THE PROPOSAL THE PROPOSALS TO CLOSE THIS SECTION OF ROOSEVELT AVENUE BETWEEN DIRT LINE AND WATERSON EXPRESSWAY, ALL THE JOINT PROPERTY OWNERS. UH HAVE CONSENTED TO THE CLOSURE, AND THEN THEY REQUIRED EASEMENTS FOR UTILITIES THAT ARE LOCATED IN THAT RIGHT OF WAY WILL BE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT. SO THIS IS THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN STREET CLOSURE PLANT SHOWING THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT'S BEING ELIMINATED HERE. AND THIS IS A GOOGLE STREET VIEW PHOTO OF THE SITE SO YOU CAN SEE THE RIGHT OF WAY IS JUST KIND OF THEIR OWN PAPER. THE ROAD KIND OF EXISTS, BUT IT DOESN'T REALLY EXIST. AND OF COURSE, IT TERMINATES AT THE WATERS, AND SO THERE'S NO REAL THRUWAY GOING THROUGH ON THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THIS PARTICULAR RAPIDLY. THE LAND OF DEVELOPMENT TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE HAD TO ME ON JUNE 8TH 2023. THE PLANNING COMMISSION PUBLIC HEARING WAS ON JUNE 15TH 2023. THAT WAS A CONSENT ITEM THAT THE MOTION WAS TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THAT CLOSURE THAT PASSED BY A VOTE OF 8 TO 0. THAT'S ALL THAT I HAD LUNCH FOR ANY QUESTIONS FOR ME.
ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS? ON THE STREET CLOSURE. SEE NO ONE IN THE QUEUE. I THINK
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WE'RE READY TO VOTE THEN. USING IT FOR A DRIVEWAY RIGHT NOW AND GOES NOWHERE. RIGHT INVESTED A LOT OF MONEY BACK IN THERE THEY NOW HAVE IT. JUST 40 FT DEEP DIVE POOL THAT THEY'RE USING TO TRAIN L NPD, AMONG OTHER THINGS. SO THEY'VE DONE A WHOLE LOT OF DEVELOPMENT BACK THERE, AND FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES, IT'S THEIR DRIVEWAY GOES NOWHERE SO YES. YEAH THAT WAS QUITE A CONSTRUCTION PROJECT. I UNDERSTAND. VICE CHERRY. YES. COUNCILOR MEMORY NO WEBER. YES.WITHOUT OBJECTION. VOTING IS CALLS AND THERE ARE SEVEN YES VOTES, SO THIS WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AT OUR NEXT MEETING. UM. WE'LL MOVE ON TO IDLE NUMBER 13 BECAUSE IT'S REGARDING MONIES. UM AND THEN WE'LL MOVE BACK TO ITEM NUMBER 12, WHICH IS FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS TO BEGIN THAT DISCUSSION . THE NUMBER 13 IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO ACCEPT $13,250 OF FUNDING FROM THE AMERICAN ASSOCIATION OF RETIRED PERSONS. AARP. IMPROVE THE LOCAL COMMUNITY WITH THE FOCUS ON THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE AGED 50 OVER TO BE ADMINISTERED BY THE OFFICE OF PLANNING. MOTION MOTION BY CANCELING WOMAN RUINED SECONDED BY COUNCILMAN CHAPEL WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. MY NAME IS EMILY LEO, DIRECTOR OF PLANNING HERE TO ADDRESS UM, ATOM NUMBER 13. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, YOUR JENNA GET LONGER AND LONGER, JUST LIKE OUR BOSSES. YES ANYWAY, SO THIS GRANT IS RELATED TO ACCESSORY DWELLING UNIT CALLED 80. YOU BECOME A NAME LIKE GRANNY FLAT.
MOTHER IN LAW SUITE CARROT, HELL'S. THERE'S A LONG LIST OF OTHER NAMES, BUT UM, IT'S ACTUALLY A DIVERSE HOUSING TABULATED MUCH SMALLER, UM, THAT WILL BE ALLOWED IN A SINGLE FAMILY OR OTHER LINK USES. SO A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO, LOUIS METRO GOVERNMENT YOU ALL ADOPTED, UM THE ORDNANCE LEGALIZED BASICALLY ACCESSORY TO 1 80 US IN LOUISVILLE. SO NOW INSTEAD OF GOING THROUGH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND WITH A LOT OF OTHER RESTRICTIONS. HOME OWNERS CAN CONSTRUCT USED BY RIGHT THIS COULD BE MAKE SURE THE FAMILY CAN STAY TOGETHER FOR YOUR MOTHER IN LAW OR GRANNY FLAT, UM , OR FOR OTHER FAMILY MEMBERS WERE SOMETIMES YOU CAN TURN IT TO RENTAL PROPERTY TO GENERATE AND THERE'S NO INCOME TO HELP PAY. YOUR MORTGAGE. SO THIS RIGHT NOW THERE'S A MOVEMENT ACROSS THE COUNTRY. A LOT OF CTS START LOOKING AT LEGALIZING 80 YOU VOTED A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO . SO YOU ARE LEADING THE PACK. YOU ARE REALLY LEADER IN THIS AREA SO EARLIER THIS YEAR WAS A HELP COUNCILWOMAN, WE ARE AND SUPPORT PLANNING OFFICE SUBMITTED GRANT TO AARP. AND SO WE JUST GOT ANNOUNCEMENT ABOUT A MONTH AGO THAT WE WERE ONE OF THE RECIPIENT OF THIS GRANT. UM THIS GRANT, ALONG WITH SOME LOCAL MATCH WILL ALLOW LIU METRO GOVERNMENT TO PURCHASE WORKING WITH LOCAL ARCHITECT PURCHASE A MINIMUM OF THREE SETS OF ARCHITECTURE, DRAWING WITH CONSTRUCTION PLANS AS WELL. UM THE DESIGN HAS TO BE ACCOMMODATE , UH, SENIOR CITIZENS, 50 YEARS AND OLDER, BUT IT COULD BE AVAILABLE TO ANYBODY WHO IS INTERESTED IN THIS. THE THREE SETS OF PLANS WILL BE ONE SET FOR ONE STORY IN THE URBAN SETTING. I CAN SEE SOME COUNCILMAN, UH, BENEFIT FROM DISTRICT WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS.
THERE'S ALSO ONE SET FOR THE SUBURBAN AREA LIKE A LITTLE COTTAGE IN THE BACK OF THE HOUSE. AND ALSO A CARRIAGE HOUSE OR AT MINIMUM 31 STORY IN THE URBAN SETTING ONE STORY IN THE SUBURBAN SETTING AND ALSO A TWO STORY CHARACTER HOUSE AND MORE LIKELY TO BE ARABLE COULD BE SUBURBAN, TOO. SO ONCE WE PURCHASED THOSE PLANS, ALONG WITH CONSTRUCTION DRAWINGS. THIS WILL BE AVAILABLE TO ANY HOMEOWNER FREE OF CHARGE. BECAUSE SOMETIMES IF YOU WANT TO BUILD A GRANNY FLAT, THE COST MAY PROHIBIT YOU FROM DOING SO. SO YOU BECAUSE $1000 TO HER ARCHITECTURE JAW, YOU KNOW, ARCHITECT DRAWING FOR THE GRANNY FLAT, SO THIS WILL REALLY REMOVE SOME OF THE BARRIER FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD A D U LOUISVILLE, JEFFERSON COUNTY, AND I HOPE YOU'LL SUPPORT PASSING THIS RESOLUTION SO WE CAN RECEIVE THIS GRANT. AGAIN THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN. WE I DON'T KNOW WHETHER YOU WANT TO PICK IT BACK ON. MAKE SOME COMMON. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR SUPPORT AND YOUR HELP ON THIS. I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALSO ATTENDED ONE OF
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THE QUESTION AND ANSWER SESSION THAT WE HOSTED A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY YES, THANK YOU. I DID ATTEND, AND I FOUND IT REALLY INTERESTING. WHAT? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE 80 US WILL BE GENERALLY 800 SQUARE FEET. AND THE PRE EXISTING PLANS WILL BE ALLOWED TO BE ADAPTED. YES A BIG PART OF THIS IS JUST TO EASE THE PROCESS FOR FOLKS WHO NEED TO FIND THAT THEY WANT TO PUT IN SOME SOME SORT OF ACCESSORY HOUSING LIKE THAT. IT MAKES THE SYSTEM GO A LOT SMOOTHER FOR PEOPLE. AND AS NOTED, IT WILL CERTAINLY SAVE YOU MONEY BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GO AND GET YOUR OWN DRAWINGS. SO THE IDEA OF COURSE, AS NOTED BY COUNCILMAN CHAPEL IS THAT WE NEED INCREASED DENSITY, AND THIS IS ONE WAY TO DO IT. AND I THINK IT'S A CREATIVE SITUATION SOLUTION TO A PROBLEM TO HAVE PRE EXISTING PLANTS THAT HERE YOU GO. WHAT DO YOU WANT TO DO? I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL IDEA, AND I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO SUPPORT IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILOR MY CHAPEL. UM THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR EXPLAINING ALL OF THAT. AND I WAS JUST HOPING THAT YOU COULD, UM THE AMOUNT IS 13,250. THAT'S VERY SPECIFIC. SO I WAS WONDERING IT KIND OF MATCHES UP WITH THE, UM I DON'T WANT TO SAY , UH, COMMUNITY CHALLENGE GRANT IS THAT WHAT THAT IS FOR? THIS IS ACTUALLY THIS IS THE SECOND COMMUNITY CHALLENGE GRANT WE GOT FROM AARP. UH ABOUT A YEAR AGO. WE GOT THE FIRST, UH, GRANT FROM AARP, AND THAT WAS USED FOR EDUCATION PURPOSES. WE PRODUCED LITTLE RADIO. SOMETIMES IF YOU WATCH THIS RECORDING BEFORE THIS MEETING START, THERE'S A LITTLE RECORDING AND THAT WAS COMPLETED BECAUSE OF THE GRAND RECEIVER ALSO HAVE USED THAT GRANT FOR A LOT OF MATERIALS THAT WERE POSTED ONLINE AS WELL. EDUCATION MATERIAL. AND CAN YOU GIVE A PLUG TO THAT CONTEST? SO PEOPLE OR I'M SORRY CHALLENGE SO PEOPLE CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. JUST IN CASE THEY'RE NOT SUBSCRIBED TO MY NEWSLETTER OR A COUNCIL WOMAN, RUI WE WOULD LOVE TO DO MORE ABOUT GETTING WORK OUT. I'M ALSO COUNTING ON YOU IN YOUR NEWSLETTER. UH YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE, LIKE, I CAN PROVIDE THAT WRITING TO YOU HAVE LITTLE PARAGRAPH ABOUT THIS. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. RIGHT NOW. WE ARE SENDING OUT THROUGH DIFFERENT WAYS AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO GET GETTING KNOWN. AH RIGHT NOW, MOSTLY PEOPLE WHO ARE IN ARCHITECTURE, FIELD OR DESIGNER HAS BEEN INTERESTED IN THIS, BUT EVENTUALLY ONCE THAT'S DONE WITH, LIKE MORE PEOPLE TO BE AWARE OF THIS FREE, UH, SERVICE THAT MATTER, GOVERNMENT PROVIDED SO AND THAT'S GOING TO BE NOT THIS YEAR. NEXT YEAR. THAT'S GONNA BE PERPETUITY. SO IT WILL BE SOMETHING THAT FIVE YEARS FROM NOW, ONE OF YOUR CONSTITUENTS WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING LIKE THAT. THIS IS STUPID, AVAILABLE AS COUNCILOR JUAN RUIZ SAID. THIS WILL ALLOW A LITTLE BIT TWEAK HERE AND THERE IF YOU WANT A DOOR ON THIS SIDE, HE SAID, THAT SIDE IF YOU WANT MORE WINDOWS, YOU CAN COST MY LIFE A LITTLE BIT WITH ARCHITECT BUT WITH MINIMUM COSTS ADDITIONAL COST, BUT IF YOU JUST WANT TO USE THE WAY IT IS DRAW. IS FREE. AND I WAS SAYING WE HAVE BEEN ADVERTISING IT. I WAS JUST SAYING SINCE WE HAVE THE FLOOR, AND PEOPLE MIGHT BE WATCHING THAT CONTEST IS OPEN THROUGH SEPTEMBER. 7TH HOW CAN THEY ENTER AND THEN ORDER THE AWARDS FOR IT? HOW THEY CAN ENTER IS OPEN. UH WE DO THIS THIS, UH IN CONJUNCTION WITH PURCHASING. THERE'S A WEBSITE THAT'S AVAILABLE PEOPLE CAN ENTER. BUT GENERALLY, IF YOU PEOPLE CAN JUST CALL OUR OFFICE FIVE OR 746230 AND WE CAN PROVIDE MORE INFORMATION. THIS IS AVAILABLE ON OUR WEBSITE AT A WHILE PLANNING DESIGN SERVICES. WE DEDICATE A D U WEBSITE ALL THE INFORMATION RELATED 80 US, INCLUDING THIS COMPETITION IS POSTED AT PLANNING AND DESIGN WEBSITE. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT ARE VIRTUAL, TOO. THIS IS AWESOME. IN THE RECORD. THANK YOU. DID YOU GO AHEAD, COUNCILMAN BAKER. UH THIS IS JUST AN ASK. I THINK IT'S I THINK IT'S GREAT. UM, BUT JUST FOR EQUITY PURPOSES ARE WE ABLE TO MAYBE REACH OUT AND COMMUNICATE THOSE TWO LIKE GROUPS LIKE THE URBAN LEAGUE AND YOU KNOW LOOK AT. MAYBE THOSE WHO TRADITIONALLY DON'T HAVE ACCESS TO THESE PLANS. JUSTIN ASK, ESPECIALLY WORKING WITH OUR COUNCIL OFFICE AND MAKING SURE WHATEVER WE CAN DO SO IT'S YOU KNOW, EQUITABLE ACROSS THE BOARD WITH DOUBLE YOU CAN DO THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH URBAN LEAGUE ARE LANDING MY UNCLE REFORM AND THIS IS PART OF THE LANDING MANCO REFORM EFFORT WHO WE TALKED TO US BEFORE WORK BEFORE. SHOULD GET AN EMAIL ABOUT THIS ALREADY. BUT I WILL[01:30:07]
MAKE SURE I'LL GO GO AHEAD AND TALK TO OUR STAFF WHO MANAGED THIS PROJECT TO SEND IT TO AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. AND ALSO IF YOU HAVE ANY NEWSLETTER OR ANY MEETING, PLEASE LET US KNOW WE WOULD LIKE TO PICK IT BACK THIS PROJECT ON YOUR ON YOUR AGENDA OR USE THAT HER OKAY . AND WILL YOU ALL BE DOING ANY ? UM WHAT WAS APPROVED WITH WHAT LOOKS LIKE I THINK WE'RE ALL IN CONSENSUS THAT IT'S GREAT, BUT ONCE APPROVED WILL BE DOING ANY . UM UM, PUBLIC MEETINGS OR ANYTHING, JUST EVEN IF IT'S ONCE TO KIND OF GO OVER WHAT? WHAT IT MEANS, OR IS IT JUST GONNA BE THE INFORMATION'S ONLINE AND GOES LIVE? THAT'S THE INTENTION . ONCE WE HAVE THOSE PLANS, WE CAN, UH PROVIDE THAT TO, YOU KNOW, ANOTHER MEETING OR RIGHT NOW, OUR OFFICE HAVE OFFICE HOURS. OKAY DISTRICT, AND WE CAN ALSO PICK IT BACK ON THAT, BUT WE'LL BE HAPPY TO HAVE A MEETING . JUST ABOUT THIS. WE CAN DO ONE PERSON AND WHEN WE'RE CHILL TO TALK ABOUT HOW YOU CAN UTILIZE THIS NEW RESOURCES, OKAY. THANK YOU. SAYING NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. I THINK WE'RE READY TO VOTE, AND IT CALLS IT'S A RESOLUTION CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THIS RESOLUTION SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. I WAS OPPOSED BY LIKE SCIENCE. SEEN NONE OF THE RESOLUTION PASSES AND THIS WILL GO TO CONSENT CALENDAR. AND OUR NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. UM DO SOME CHANGING OF THE OF THE GUARD OUT THERE AS WE MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER 12 WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE.THIS TITLE DOESN'T READ RIGHT, BUT AN ORDINANCE SEVERAL SECTIONS OF THE METRO LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE LDC AND SECTION 1 15 OF THE LOUISVILLE JEFFERSON COUNTY METRO GOVERNMENT CODE OF ORDINANCES, LMC OH, RELATING TO SHORT TERM RENTALS. CASE NUMBER 23 L E C 001. PROBABLY MOVING IN SECOND, AND WE'RE READY FOR DISCUSSION. BUT BEFORE WE MOVE ON, WE HAVE BEEN JOINED BY FORMER COUNCILMAN JAMES PETEN. WELCOME, JAMES. HE MISSED US SO MUCH AND ZONING SO MUCH. HE HAD TO COME DOWN AND WATCH US WALKING IN HERE. OH, I WAS PART OF THE. GOOD TO SEE YOU. MY MOTHER SAYS SHE MISSES SEEING YOU ON TV. COUNCILMAN PEDEN WAS MY MOTHER'S, UM, COUNCIL PERSON AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU HE TOOK VERY GOOD CARE OF MY MOTHER AND FATHER AS PART OF HAVE YOU FIRE DEPARTMENT. I HAD TO MAKE SEVERAL TRIPS OVER THERE WITH SERVICES FROM MY FATHER AND THEN MY MOTHER. SO THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU, JAMES. OKAY, WE'RE READY. GO AHEAD. INTRODUCE YOURSELF. HABERMAN PLANNING AND DESIGN SERVICES AND ODDEST NO. COUNCILMAN PETERSON WAS THE SPONSOR OF OUR VERY FIRST SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE. SO THIS IS ALL COMING FULL CIRCLE RIGHT NOW. BUT UM, WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO DO A PRESENTATION OF THE WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED RECOMMENDED. YES, THAT WOULD BE PERFECT. I HAVE A PRESENTATION, CHERYL. THANK YOU SO WHOEVER PRESENTING NOW IS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCE, AS RECOMMENDED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION, AS MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE COUNCIL PASSED A RESOLUTION LATE LAST YEAR, ASKING STAFF IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION TO TAKE A LOOK AT THE EXISTING REGULATIONS THAT ARE IN BOTH THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AND THEN METRO CODE AND MAKE SOME SUGGESTIONS.
I'LL GET TO SOME OF THE SPECIFIC ASKED THAT WERE IN THAT RESOLUTION HERE IN A SECOND, BUT UM, WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE IS SHORT TERM RENTALS AS YOU'RE PROBABLY ALSO WHERE ARE REGULATED DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHER TRANSIENT OPTIONS SUCH AS HOTELS AND BED AND BREAKFAST THAT WAS INTENTIONALLY DONE WITH OUR INITIAL ORDINANCE BACK IN 2016 SO WE ADOPTED THEM. WE MADE SOME SIGNIFICANT REVISIONS ALONG THE WAY, MOST OF WHICH WERE DONE LAST AND A FAIRLY EXTENSIVE ORDINANCE IN 2019. I WILL NOTE THAT WHY WE MADE RECOMMENDATIONS , NOT ONLY THE METRO COUNCIL, WE ALSO MADE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE OTHER CITIES THAT HAVE ZONING AUTHORITY. MOST HAVE NOT ADOPTED ANY REGULATIONS RELATED TO SHORT TERM RENTALS. BUT LYNDON MIDDLETOWN IN SAINT MATTHEW'S HAVE THEY DIFFER FROM WHAT IS IN METRO CODE, BUT THEY DID ADOPT SOMETHING AND I'LL NOTE BETWEEN THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THIS HEARING. WE FOUND OUT THAT LONDON PAST THE LOCAL ORDINANCE, SO ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION THAT WAS NOT NOTED. UM SO THE HEARING WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS HELD ON JULY 17 TO 2023 AND ALL KIND OF GET INTO THE REGULATIONS. BUT FIRST I JUST WANT TO EXPLAIN THAT WE ADDRESS THESE DIFFERENT SITUATIONS BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST
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ONE TYPE OF SHORT TERM RENTAL. THERE'S MANY, SO WE TRIED TO LOOK AT IT FROM ALL THE DIFFERENT ANGLES. SO WHAT WE HAVE IS WE'VE SEEN THREE DIFFERENT FORMS TAKE PLACE IN METRO WE HAVE THE HOST AT HOME SHARING WHERE THE HOST IS ON SITE WITH THE GUESTS SHARING THE HOME. WE HAVE UNHO STED HOME SHARING WHERE IT'S SOMEBODY'S HOME. AND THEN THEY LEAVE WHILE THE GUEST IS STAYING THERE, SO THERE'S NO SHARING. UH OF SPACE . BUT THEY'RE SHARING OF THE HOME. THEN WE HAVE THE DEDICATED WHERE THERE ISN'T REALLY A PERSON WHO HAS A PRIMARY RESIDENCE OR HOME ON SITE, AND IT'S USED EXTENSIVELY FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND THEN THAT KIND OF GETS TO THE FREQUENCY. THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT DO THIS JUST FOR SPECIAL EVENT LIKE KENTUCKY DERBY OR LOUDER THAN LIFE. THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE TO DO IT REGULARLY EVERY COUPLE OF WEEKS. THEY MIGHT DO IT, BUT NOT , YOU KNOW, TRYING TO MARKET THE HOUSE FOR 365 DAYS A YEAR. THEN THERE'S THE PEOPLE THAT DO IT CONTINUOUSLY WORDS CONTINUOUSLY ON THE MARKET, UM, AND CAN BE RENTED AT ANY DAY DURING THE YEAR. SO JUST TO GIVE SOME NUMBERS, UM HAVE MORE DATA THAN THIS, BUT THIS IS JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIGGER SCOPE. AND I PUT AS OF JULY 12TH BECAUSE THESE NUMBERS LITERALLY CHANGED DAILY AND SOME CASES HOURLY AS THE LICENSES GET APPROVED AND SOME EXPIRE BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT RENEWED. BUT AS OF JULY 12TH WE HAD ALMOST 1300 ACTIVE REGISTRATIONS. WE MIGHT HAVE PASSED 1300 MARK SINCE THEN. WE'VE HAD OVER 5000 APPLICATIONS COME IN, BUT I'LL NOTE THAT A LOT OF THOSE ARE RENEWAL. ZAC'S L A. DOESN'T LET US DISTINGUISH BETWEEN A NEW ONE IN A RENEWAL, SO A LOT OF THOSE ARE THE SAME PROPERTY COMING IN EACH YEAR, AS REQUIRED. WE'VE HAD APPROXIMATELY 900 CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATIONS SINCE 2016. BUT NOT ALL THOSE MADE IT TO BOZA. SOME OF THEM. UH DIDN'T SUBMIT THE FORMAL APPLICATION BECAUSE THEY HEARD FROM THE NEIGHBORS DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING THEY HEARD FROM STAFF DURING THE PRE APPLICATION MEETING, AND THEY DECIDED NOT TO MOVE AHEAD FOR WHATEVER REASON. UM, SO OF THOSE AROUND 500 HAVE BEEN ACTED UPON BY THE BORDER ZONING ADJUSTMENT. AND I'LL NOTE THAT OF THAT NUMBER THAT 486 NUMBER 413 HAD BEEN APPROVED IN 73 HAVE BEEN DENIED. SO THEY'RE NOT APPROVING. ALL OF THEM, BUT THAT'S JUST THE GENERAL IDEA OF WHAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR. SO WITH THE PROPOSED AMENDMENTS, WE DID, UH PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD WHERE WE PUT OUT SOME INITIAL IDEAS THAT STAFF HAD AFTER TALKING TO COUNCIL AND JUST REVIEWING THE ORDINANCE AND LOOKING AT SOME OTHER CITIES AND WHAT THEY DID, AND WE DID A 30 DAY PUBLIC PERIOD PERIOD, PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD THAT WAS ACTUALLY A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN 30 DAYS. AND THEN WE TOOK THAT COMMENTS, AND THEN WE MADE SOME ADDITIONAL CHANGES. BASED ON SOME OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT CAME IN SO OUT OF THIS PROCESS, WE GOT WELL OVER 200 COMMENTS AND WRITTEN FORMS AS WELL AS A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CALLED US AND WANTED TO TALK TO US DIRECTLY, AND A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SPOKE AT PUBLIC HEARINGS.THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT WITH THIS COMPARED TO OTHER SIMILAR ZONING AMENDMENTS WAS PRETTY ROBUST, AND WE DID GET A LOT OF FEEDBACK FROM ACROSS THE METRO AREA. SO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE MOST PART REMAINED AS WE INITIALLY OFFERED WITH SOME CHANGES, BUT I'LL JUST KIND OF GO OVER THESE ONE BY ONE, THE FIRST IS AMENDING THE REQUIREMENT, UM FOR HOST OWNER FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS ON RESIDENTIAL HIS OWN PROPERTIES THAT DO NOT HAVE CPS. THIS WILL EFFECTIVELY PROHIBITED OWNER FROM ASSIGNING ANOTHER PARTY TO BE A HOST TO AVOID THAT CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. I'LL JUST TAKE ONE STEP BACK. WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES TO WHERE SHORT TERM RENTALS CAN GO IN TERMS OF ZONING. THERE'S STILL WE'RE RECOMMENDING KIND OF A APPROACH OF IF THE RESIDENTIAL IS OWNED. THEY NEED A CONDITIONAL USE IF THEY DON'T LIVE THERE, AND IF THEY'RE COMMERCIALLY ZONED OR THE OWNER LIVES THERE THAT THEY CAN DO IT WITH THAT ANNUAL REGISTRATION AND THERE ARE SOME CHANGES SUGGESTED TO O R. BUT I'LL TOUCH ON THAT IN A SECOND. WE'RE SUGGESTING TO STRENGTHEN THE 600 FT SEPARATION REQUIREMENT. BY NOT ALLOWING A WAIVER TO THAT BY THE BORDER ZONE IN ADJUSTMENT IF THERE'S ALREADY TOO SHORT TERM RENTAL, CONDITIONAL USES, AND OUR ENTIRE BUFFER AREA IS RESIDENTIAL ZONED, AND I'LL NOTE THAT ALSO INCLUDES THE EQUIVALENT OF RESIDENTIAL ZONING FOR THE MAPPED AREA IN T N Z. D. SO THAT WILL. MEAN THAT RELIEF JUST ISN'T ELIGIBLE, UM, FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT ARE IN THAT SITUATION IN THE BOARD, WILLIAM BE ACTING ON THOSE APPLICATIONS . WE ALSO ADDED SOME LANGUAGE TO ENSURE THAT THE APPLICANT ADDRESSES WHEN THEY HAVE A 600 FT ISSUE. THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OVER CONCENTRATION OF SHORT TERM RENTALS IN THEIR JUSTIFICATION. THEY CAN'T JUST BASED THAT
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JUSTIFICATION ON FINANCIAL INFORMATION OR WHAT THEY PERCEIVED. THE CHARACTER OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THEY CAN STILL ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. BUT THEY HAVE TO AT LEAST TOUCH ON OVER CONCENTRATION, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM SO WE ALSO PUT IN AND THIS IS DIRECTED IN SOME PART BY THE RESOLUTION AN EXEMPTION TO THE 600 FT REQUIREMENT IF THE OWNER LIVES ON THE PROPERTY, BUT NOT IN THE DWELLING, SO THIS WILL APPLY. TO SITUATIONS WHERE THERE MIGHT BE A CARRIAGE HOUSE ON THE PROPERTY OR THE OWNER. MIGHT LIVE IN A SECOND DWELLING UNIT ON THE PROPERTY. SO THAT'S WHERE THAT WILL COME INTO PLAY WHERE IT WON'T COME INTO PLAY IS IN 80 US. THAT RECEIVED THE EFFECT OF DENSITY BONUS 80 US AND SINGLE FAMILY ZONING WHERE WE ALLOW IT.AND WE DID THAT IN PART TWO YOU KNOW, INCREASE AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THEY WOULD STILL NEED A CONDITIONAL USE AND POTENTIALLY RELIEF TO THIS. UM OR THE REQUIREMENTS IN THE AU ORDINANCE, I SHOULD SAY. WE ADDED A RESTRICTION TO 12 ADULTS IF THE MAXIMUM OCCUPANCY ALLOWS FOR 13 PLUS TOTAL OCCUPANTS. THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION WITH THIS. THIS REALLY ONLY APPLIES TO PROPERTIES. UM WHERE THE HOUSE HAS OVER FIVE BEDROOMS, BECAUSE IF YOU HAVE OVER FIVE BEDROOMS, TWO FORMULA ALLOWS 12 GUESTS BECAUSE IT'S TWO TIMES THE NUMBER OF BEDROOMS. PLUS TWO WITH A BUMP IF YOU HAVE A LARGER PROPERTY UM, SO IT DOESN'T APPLY TO SMALLER ONES, BUT OF YOUR TOTAL OCCUPANCY, 12 CAN BE ADULTS. THE PLANNING COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDED CHANGE TO THAT TO DEFINE WHAT WE MEANT BY ADULTS, AND WE SETTLED AT 16. UM OR OVER IS AN ADULT AND THE REASONING PART OF THIS IS TO ADDRESS PARKING, SO 16 AND OVER HELPS WITH THAT. AND HOUSES WHERE THERE MIGHT BE LOUD. UM YOU KNOW EVENTS OR PARTIES AND LIMITING THE NUMBER. ADULTS SHOULD HELP WITH THAT SO THAT'S A RECOMMENDATION. RELIEF IS ELIGIBLE TO THAT. THAT'S CAN BE GRANTED BY THE PLAN OR BY THE BOZA IF THEY NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT OR BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR. IF THEY DON'T WE ALSO MADE A SUGGESTION TO ALLOW AND MULTI FAMILY BUILDINGS OF SOUND O R THREE AND R O T F SO THIS IS KIND OF THE FIXING OVERSIGHT. THE INITIAL ORDINANCE IN 2016 DIDN'T ALLOW AND MULTI FAMILY AT ALL. AND THEN WE ADDED AN EXCEPTION. UM, THAT'S HARD TO EVEN EXPLAIN THAT'S BASED ON PROXIMITY TO CERTAIN NUMBER OF THINGS WITH COMMERCIAL ZONING.
THEN WE REMOVED THAT EXCEPTION BECAUSE IT WAS FAR TOO CONFUSING. AND WE ALLOWED IN COMMERCIAL ZONING WITH THE JUSTIFICATION WILL HOTELS ARE ALLOWED ANYWHERE. O R THREE AND R O T F ALSO ALLOW HOTELS, SO IF SOMEBODY CAN'T DO A SHORT TERM RENTAL IN THOSE ZONING DISTRICTS THAT ARE JUST CALLING THEMSELVES THE HOTEL. SO THIS JUST FOR CONSISTENCY IF THE HOTEL IS ALLOWED A SHORT TERM RENTALS ALLOWED UM SOME ADDITIONAL THINGS AND SOMEBODY'S ARE KIND OF SOUND ROUTINE, BUT HELPED. IT'S TO CLARIFY THAT THE HOST OF RECORD IS THE PRIMARY PARTY RESPONSIBLE AND CANNOT PASS ALL THOSE RESPONSIBILITIES TO ANOTHER PARTY. THIS WILL HELP WHEN SOMETIMES WE CALL A HOST. AND THEY SAY, OH, NO, YOU NEED TO CALL SOMEBODY ELSE AND WE'RE TRYING TO GET THE HOST TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT THE PERSON OF RECORD ANOTHER IS TO REQUIRE AN OWNER TO LIVE AT THE RESIDENTS FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS. BEFORE SUBMITTING AN OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION. ANOTHER IS TO REQUIRE THE ON OWNER OCCUPIED REGISTRATION TO INCLUDE A KENTUCKY ISSUED I, D OR RESIDENCY HEARING IS REQUIRED. I KNOW WE GOT SOME COMMENTS ON THAT. BUT THE LARGE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THAT APPLY FOR HOST OCCUPIED AND THAT IT KENTUCKY LICENSE. THERE'S ONLY BEEN A HANDFUL OF CASES WHERE THAT HAS NOT HAPPENED SO I DON'T. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE WERE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. BUT I DON'T THINK THAT WILL AFFECT MANY PEOPLE. WE WANT TO IMPROVE THE PRESIDENCY HEARING PROCESS, AND THIS IS THAT PROCESS BY WHICH IF THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS TO CLAIM RESIDENCY TO NOT HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THAT WE CAN TAKE THAT TO THE BORDER ZONING ADJUSTMENT AND HAVE A HEARING WHERE EVERYBODY'S UNDER OATH AND HAVE TO KIND OF EXPLAIN. WHERE THEY'RE AT. WE HAD SOME LANGUAGE IN THERE THAT AUTOMATICALLY TRIGGERS THAT IN SOME INSTANCES AND KIND OF CODIFIES HOW THAT PROCESS WILL UNFOLD RATHER THAN RELY ON BYLAWS. NEXT IS IF THIS IS THE HELP WITH THE BAD ACTORS TO PROHIBIT A REGISTRATION IF A CITATION WAS ISSUED IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS FOR AN UNLAWFUL SHORT TERM RENTALS, SO THIS IS KIND OF IF YOU'RE ASKING FOR FORGIVENESS RATHER THAN PERMISSION. THERE IS A WAY TO GO TO THE BORDER ZONE AND ADJUSTMENT IF THERE IS A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE AND ASK TO BE EXEMPTED FROM THIS REQUIREMENT, BUT THE STANDARD IS YOU CAN'T BE UM, ISSUED REGISTRATION IF YOU HAVE A CITATION IN THE PAST 12 MONTHS WE HAD SOME TECHNICAL REVISIONS , WHICH GO THROUGHOUT THE ORDINANCE AND THE NEXT THREE OR
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CHANGES THAT HAPPENED AFTER THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. WE ARE SUGGESTING A REGISTRATION FEE, WHICH IS SET IN THE METRO CODE ORDINANCE OF 250. UM, CURRENTLY IT'S 100. THE PLANNING COMMISSION ASKED COUNCIL TO CONSIDER A TWO TIERED AH, THE BASED ON OWNER OWNER OCCUPANCY RECORDING ONE FEE AND NON OWNER BEING ANOTHER. THEY DIDN'T PROVIDE SET AMOUNTS. THEY JUST FELT OTHER CITIES HAD DONE THAT OR THAT MADE SENSE. I'LL NOTE IN SOME WAYS IT'S ALREADY DONE BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, WHICH HAS AN ADDITIONAL FEE, WHICH IS SET BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT THAT IS A RECOMMENDATION THAT THEY MADE. UM TO INTRODUCE AN AUTOMATIC REVOCATION HEARING FOR CPS AFTER THE TWO SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS. THAT DOES NOT MEAN YOU'RE AUTOMATICALLY. LOSE YOUR CONDITIONAL USE THAT JUST REQUIRES US TO HOLD THE HEARING RATHER THAN HAVE IT BE ARBITRARY AND DECIDED BY THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OF WHAT VIOLATION IS SIGNIFICANT ENOUGH. TO CALL FOR THE HEARING. AND THEN THE FINAL ONE, WHICH IS RATHER SIGNIFICANT IS TO ADD O R O R ONE AND R TWO. TO DESIGNING DISTRICTS THAT REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS FOR NON OWNER OCCUPIED SHORT TERM RENTALS, AND THAT WILL ONLY APPLY TO THE TRADITIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD FORM DISTRICT SO YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT KIND OF OVERLAP. THAT CHANGE WAS MADE DUE TO SIGNIFICANT PUBLIC COMMENTS. RELATED TO THAT NOT ONLY IN OUR PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD, BUT TO A DEGREE AND THE PROCESS OF CREATING THE PHOENIX HILL NEW LOU AND BUTCHER TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD PLAN. THERE WAS A LOT OF COMMENTS TO THAT EFFECT IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH HAS A LOT OF OUR BUT THAT IS NOT THE ONLY THREE NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT WAR. THERE ARE SEVERAL NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE THIS OWNING THAT HAVE ASKED FOR THIS CHANGE. AND THIS IS JUST SOME DATA THAT I DON'T NEED TO DWELL ON. BUT I'M PUTTING IT UP HERE BECAUSE OF OUR STANDING REGISTRATIONS THAT WE HAVE. WE HAVE 90 R ONE SKIPPED OVER OR BECAUSE THERE'S ONLY 110 R AND 101 0 R TWO. SO THAT'S ACCOUNT. THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT UH, WOULD NOW NEED A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THEY'LL LIKELY BE DEEMED NON CONFORMING UNLESS COUNCIL MAKE A DECISION RELATED TO THAT, BUT THAT'S JUST KIND OF THE NUMBERS. AND THIS IS JUST A MAP OF THE WAR, WHICH IS PROBABLY VERY DIFFICULT TO SEE IN THIS, UM IN THIS POWER POINT PRESENTATION. SO I'LL QUICKLY JUST ADDRESS WHAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION. THAT COUNCIL SPECIFICALLY ASKED US TO ADDRESS THAT THE FIRST THING THAT'S IN THE RESOLUTION PASSED BY COUNCIL IS YOU WANTED US TO TAKE A LOOK AT ALLOWING SITUATIONS WHERE AN OWNER AND A PRIMARY STRUCTURE OR UNIT ON A GIVEN LOT MAY USE THEIR OTHER UNIT, INCLUDING THE OTHER UNIT, AND THE DUPLEX SLASH CARRIAGE HOUSE LAST 80 US AND SDR WITHOUT TRIGGERING TO 600 FT GROUP. SO THE DRAFT AMENDMENTS EXEMPT SUCH FROM THE 600 FT. RULE OF THE OWNER LIVES ON SITE , SO WE ADDRESSED THAT IN THE ORDINANCE. THE NEXT IS POSSIBLE INCENTIVES FOR NEW SHORT TERM RENTALS TO BE REGISTERED AND OR PENALTIES FOR THOSE THAT DO NOT REGISTER, INCLUDING THOSE WHO ONLY ATTEMPT TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE. ONE SIDED. SO AS I MENTIONED, WE ADDRESSED THAT WITH THE 12 MONTH. PROHIBITION FROM APPLYING AND WE LOOKED AT THE FINES. WE THINK THE FINES ARE APPROPRIATE AS THEY'RE CURRENTLY CONSTRUCTED. BUT IF WE , UM HAVE ENHANCED ENFORCEMENT WE CAN FIND MORE, WHICH HAS THE SAME EFFECT OF RAISING DEFINE. THE NEXT IS THE INTRODUCTION OF AUTOMATIC REVOCATION HEARING IS TRIGGERED BY A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TYPES VIOLATIONS. WE ADDRESSED THAT BY ADDING THE AUTOMATIC RE VOCATION HEARING. FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS. UM AFTER TWO SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS, WHICH IS ALREADY THE THRESHOLD NOTED, IT'S JUST RIGHT NOW. IT'S THE PLANNING DIRECTOR MAY CALL FOR REVOCATION HEARING AFTER TWO NOW IT WILL AS FAR AS THE RELOCATION HERE, PROCESS FOR REGISTRATION. THAT'S ALREADY AT THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR, AND YOU CAN APPEAL THAT DECISION TO REVOKE THE BOZOS SO THERE IS NO HEARING. FOR THAT PROCESS. AS IT STANDS, WE COULD ADD IT, BUT IT'S NOT REALLY NECESSARY. THEY WOULD JUST APPEAL OUR DECISION, SO WE DIDN'T ADDRESS IT AND THAT SITUATION. THE EFFICIENCY AND EFFECTIVENESS OF CURRENT POLICIES. AND WE THINK THAT ALL THESE CHANGES WILL HELP IN THAT REGARD. AND THEN THE FINAL IS THE PLANNING COMMISSION SHALL NOT MAKE OR CONSIDER MAKING THE CCP REQUIREMENT AND TEENSY D LESS RESTRICTIVE THAN IS CURRENTLY THE TNC DIESEL LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. IT REQUIRES A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THE HOST OR OWNER LIVES THERE. WE DID NOT MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT REQUIREMENT. SO WITH THAT ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF THE STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS WITH THE CHANGES . I NOTED WITH SIX MEMBERS VOTING YES. ONE MEMBER VOTING NO AND ONE MEMBER ABSTAINING. THEY ALSO MADE A RECOMMENDATION THAT[01:50:04]
THE COUNCIL CONSIDER PROVIDING FINANCIAL RESOURCES AS NECESSARY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL STAFF AND RESOURCES TO BETTER ENFORCE AND ADMINISTER THE METRO CODE AND LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE PROVISIONS. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE, AND I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. I'LL START OFF WITH A QUICK QUESTION BECAUSE I THINK IT'S SOMEWHERE ALREADY IN HERE, UM, CONCERNED ABOUT, SAY, I'M AN LLC THAT OWNS I SHORT TERM RENTAL PROPERTY. AND, UM, IT'S GOING TO BE REVOKED. EXCUSE ME. LET ME BACK UP. IF I IF I OWN PROPERTY IS AN LLC IF I SELL MY LLC, WHICH INCLUDES THAT PROPERTY IS THERE SOMETHING IN HERE THAT REQUIRES THEM TO REREGISTER EVEN THOUGH THEY BOUGHT THE LLC WITH THAT PROPERTY? THEY DEFINITELY HAVE TO REREGISTER. SO IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE ALREADY. AND NOT IN THE CHANGES THAT A CHANGE IN OWNERSHIP. OR A CHANGE IN HOST OF RECORD REQUIRES A NEW REGISTRATION. SO IF YOU SELL YOUR PROPERTY, REGARDLESS OF WHETHER YOU'RE AN LLC OR NOT YOUR EXISTING REGISTRATION BECOMES NO. AND THE NEW OWNER NEEDS TO COME IN. THEY DON'T GET THE REMAINING TIME ON YOUR REGISTRATION. THEY HAVE TO COME IN AND GET A NEW REGISTRATION IN THEIR NAME. AND IF THEY DON'T DO THAT WITHIN SIX MONTHS, AND THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE INVOLVED. THE CONDITIONAL USES FORFEITED. THANK YOU. EMILY AND I HAD THAT CONVERSATION. AND WE WERE JUST, UM, MAKING SURE THAT THERE WAS THAT IT IS COVERED BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME OTHER AREAS NOT NECESSARY. LOUISVILLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING SOME ISSUES, WITH PEOPLE TAKING OVER L. L. C S AND WELL, THAT'S A SEPARATE ISSUE IF THE LLC SO IF THEY OWN UNDER AN LLC, AND THEY BY THE LLC. THE OWNERSHIP DIDN'T REALLY CHANGED. THE OWNER OF THE L. C CHANGED. I DON'T KNOW IF I ANSWERED THAT QUESTION, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF I HAVE AN ANSWER TO DAD. IS THERE SOME WAY THAT WE CAN FIX THAT? THAT IF THE L L. C IS SOLD THAT IT HAS TO BE CONSIDERED NEW I WILL WORK WITH TRAVIS ON THAT, UM. I'M TAKING NOTES. OKAY THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT LOOPHOLE IS NOT NOT IN THERE. JUST IN CASE. I'M SORRY.MY SCREEN. UM. I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING. YES, MISS. SORRY, DIDN'T MAKE POWER TO ADDRESS GAME. THAT'S. THANK YOU. I HAVEN'T ANYONE IN THE QUEUE, COUNCILMAN OWEN UM. THANK YOU CHAIR. UH AS IT RELATES TO THE LAST, UM PLANNING COMMISSION RIGHT RECOMMENDATION THERE.
WHERE THE RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSIDER PROVIDING FINANCIAL RESOURCES. FIRST OFF THE $100 FEE THAT'S BEING CHARGED CURRENTLY. WHERE DOES THAT FEE GO? SO INCREASING THE FEW. WOULD HELP IN THIS AREA. SO THAT IS PART OF SUGGESTION. THE $100 FEE COMES BACK TO PLANNING AND DESIGN. THAT WE THEN USE FOR STAFF AND TO ADMINISTER THE ORDINANCE. PENALTIES. WHICH WE ALSO ASSESSED. DO NOT COME BACK TO PLANNING AND DESIGN. THEY JUST GO. INTO THE GENERAL FUND.
SO THOSE DON'T COME BACK TO US AND PROBABLY CAN'T COME BACK TO US SO THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF INCREASING THAT FEE AS WELL AS TAKING A LOOK AT THE CONDITIONAL USE FEES, WHICH ARE SET BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION WILL HELP IN THIS AREA. SO DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING SPECIFIC WITHIN THE ORDINANCE TO SAY WHETHER WE WANT THAT ADDITIONAL FEE TO GO BACK TO 2.2 PLANNING.
UM SO THAT SO YOU GUYS COULD POTENTIALLY HIRE ADDITIONAL STAFF TO HELP. DO WE NEED TO DO ANYTHING SPECIFICALLY WITHIN THE ORDINANCE TO TRY TO ADDRESS THAT? THAT SOUNDS LIKE MY QUESTION TO ANSWER. SO CURRENTLY OUR DEPARTMENT IS FUNDED IN TWO WAYS. ONE IS THROUGH THE FEES.
ONE IS THE GENERAL FUND. MORE FEET. WE HAVE THE VEST JOURNAL. FINE. WELL, WHAT GETS SO IT'S KIND OF ALTOGETHER. AH FOR THIS , FOR EXAMPLE, CURRENTLY WE CHARTER $100,000 100 DOLLARS, WHICH IS ABOUT, UH, $130,000 TOTAL A YEAR. THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR THE WELL. WHEN WE INCREASE THAT FEE FROM $100 TO $250 PER REGISTRATION, DO THE MATH TIMES 150 EXTRA TIMES, 100 AND 30 THAT COMES ABOUT $200,000 MORE. SO UP, BUT THAT FUN CAN CAN BE DEDICATED, YOU KNOW, JUST
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FOR BECAUSE THAT FUND HAS TO BE USED FOR SHORT AND RENTAL RELATED ACTIVITY. I DON'T THINK YOU CAN USE THAT FUND FOR SOMETHING ELSE. UH SO YOU KNOW YOUR RESOLUTION IF YOU WANT TO SAY THAT THIS NOLFI GENERATED WHICH IS 100 $200,000 ROUGHLY $200,000. YOURSELF STAY WITH PLAN EIGHTIES I FOR SPECIFIC PURPOSES, SO NEXT BUDGET YEAR WHEN EARLY NEXT YEAR I WORKED WAS ON B, UH, FOR STAFFING AND SOFTWARE. WHATEVER WE NEED TO DO PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT, THEN THE FUNDING IS ALREADY THERE FOR THIS SPECIFIC PURPOSE IS POTENTIALLY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT SOME SPECIFIC LANGUAGE WITHIN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAID THAT THAT THE MONEY WOULD STAY WITHIN PLANNING AND DESIGN FOR SHORT TERM RENTALS FOR SHORT TERM RENTAL PURPOSES MIGHT BE HELPFUL IF THERE WAS SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE THAT SAID THAT YES. UM. TRAVIS. I'M LOOKING AT YOU. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE AS A GROUP OUGHT TO CONSIDER, UM, BECAUSE I THINK AGAIN. WE'RE TRYING TO BEEF UP WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE WITHIN PLANNING DESIGN AS IT RELATES TO SHORT TERM RENTALS AND AH, MAKING SURE THAT THAT MONEY IS USED CAN BE USED OR IS USED BY THEM TO ADDRESS THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ISSUE, I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT WE DO THAT.TRAVIS FEATURES ISN'T COUNTY ATTORNEY HAD TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. I THINK THEY'RE SORT OF TWO QUESTIONS, WHICH ONE SORT OF TEXTUALLY. WHERE DOES IT BELONG IN TWO? ARE THERE ANY LIMITATIONS? I DON'T DO A WHOLE LOT WITH BUDGETING, INVITED MY CURRENT CAPACITY, SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT RUNNING AFOUL OF SOME OTHER FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS. BUT I'VE GOT IT IN MY NOTES HERE AND I'M HAPPY TO GET BACK TO YOU ON IT. OK SECOND QUESTION. I HAD, UM SO I DON'T THINK IT WAS OUR INTENTION. UH ON THE FRONT END, TOO. KIND OF CLAW BACK. UH LICENSES THAT HAD ALREADY BEEN ISSUED. SO IF WE'RE CHANGING THE RULES ON PEOPLE NOW UM, THERE WILL BE SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE WHO BECOME NON CONFORMING TO THE NEW ORDINANCE . RIGHT SO CAN YOU GIVE HIM GIVE US A FEW EXAMPLES AS TO WHO? WHO WHAT? WHO THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOW THAT WILL NOW BE CONSIDERED NONCONFORMING. THAT'S THE FIRST PART OF THE QUESTION. AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT QUESTION IS HOW LONG DOES THAT NONCONFORMING RIGHT LAST AND DOES IT? LAST AND DOES A SALE OF THE PROPERTY AND THAT NONCONFORMING RIGHT, FOR EXAMPLE. SO THE ANSWER TO LAST QUESTION BECAUSE THAT'S THE EASIEST TO SAIL. DOES NOT. AND THE NONCONFORMING, RIGHT? THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT TERMINATES IT. SO I'M GOING TO ANSWER THIS NOT CONFORMING RIGHTS TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE. ALL THAT TRAVIS ADDRESS POTENTIAL. RIGHTS YOU MIGHT HAVE TO THE METRO CODE PROVISIONS, WHICH ERNEST RELEVANT IN TERMS OF WHO WOULD NEED THEM, BUT IF YOU DON'T ADD ANY SPECIFIC LANGUAGE IN THE ORDINANCE, SAYING WHAT WILL HAPPEN THEN JUST GENERAL RULES WOULD APPLY WITH NONCONFORMING RIGHTS AND BASICALLY IF YOU YOU'RE YOU'RE. YOU'RE UNDER THE RULES THAT WERE IN PLACE WHEN YOU BECAME THE USE, AND YOU LOSE THOSE NONCONFORMING RIGHTS IF YOU ABANDON THE USE, WHICH MEANS YOU BECOME SOMETHING NEW OR THE USE. ISN'T ACTIVE FOR A YEAR.
THOSE ARE VERY GENERAL WAYS TO EXPLAIN IT SO YOU CAN LOSE NONCONFORMING RIGHTS. THEY'RE NOT FOREVER, BUT THEY ARE TRANSFERABLE TO THE OWNER. SO EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE NONCONFORMING WITHIN THE SHORT TERM RENTAL ORDINANCES. THE INITIAL ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED IN 2016. THEN IN 2019. WE MADE SOME CHANGES, INCLUDING REDUCING OCCUPANCY. UM THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE APPROVED IN 2016, AS LONG AS THEY'VE ALWAYS STAYED ACTIVE WITH THEIR LICENSE CAN HAVE THAT ADDITIONAL OCCUPANCY THAT WAS IN PLACE. WHEN THEY WERE APPROVED. SO. IF WE MAKE A CHANGE, SAID TO O R TWO, WHICH HAD THAT 100 PROPERTIES AFFECTED THEY WOULD NOT NEED TO CONDITIONAL USE THEY WOULD BE LAWFUL. UM AS NONCONFORMING USES, THEY JUST WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO EXPAND, WHICH I DON'T EVEN REALLY KNOW HOW AND SHORT TERM RENTAL EXPANDS, OTHER THAN PERHAPS ADDING BEDROOMS. AND IF THEY WERE TO STOP DOING IT FOR A YEAR, THEY WOULD LOSE THOSE RIGHTS. LET ME ASK YOU MORE SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT NONCONFORMING. WHAT IF SOMEBODY HAS BEEN OPERATING A NON OWNER OCCUPIED PROPERTY USING A HOST. UM THAT WITHOUT A C U P UH, WOULD THEY THEN BE CONSIDERED NONCONFORMING GOING FORWARD BASED ON THIS ORDINANCE? WITHOUT LANGUAGE AND THE ORDINANCE TO THE THAT'S IT ADDRESSES THAT SITUATION. THEY'D BE NONCONFORMING UNDER ZONING, BUT THAT'S ONE OF THE TRICKY ONES BECAUSE THAT ALSO APPEARS IN METRO CODE WHERE I THINK WE ALSO SAID THAT THERE HAD TO BE OWNER OCCUPIED, BUT IF IN GENERAL
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UNDER ZONING, YES, THEY WOULD BE NON CONFORMING. IF THEY WERE LEGALLY. OPERATING UNDER THE RULES THAT WERE IN EFFECT WHEN THEY STARTED AND THEY DIDN'T LAPSE FOR A YEAR. THEY'LL BE NONCONFORMING UNDER THE ZONING PIECE. AND WHEN YOU SAID NONCONFORMING RIGHTS ARE TRANSFERABLE. DO THEY HAVE TO BE? THAT'S AN EXCELLENT QUESTION , WHICH AGAIN I WILL DEFER TO TRAVIS NONCONFORMING RIGHTS ARE LARGELY TIED INTO CONSTITUTIONAL TAKINGS LAW, WHICH IS MORE OF A LEGAL MATTER THAN A PLANNING MATTER. THANKS, JOE AGAIN, TRAVIS RESEARCH, ASSISTANT COUNTY ATTORNEY. SO THERE'S A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON HERE. JOE SPOKE WELL ABOUT THE YOU KNOW THE LAND USE AND ZONING CONCERNS. COMMISSION USE PERMITS THOSE SORTS OF THINGS. GENERAL TYPICALLY RUN WITH THE LAND, AND SO YOU KNOW, IT'S ATTACHED TO THE PROPERTY THAN TO THE PERSON.UM, SO YOU KNOW IF I GET MY LOT REZONED AND I SELL IT TO SOMEBODY. IT'S STILL THAT SAME ZONE IF I GOTTA CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR WHATEVER. AND I SAW SOMEBODY BASEBALL HAVE THAT CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. UM, GENERALLY, THOSE THINGS HISTORICALLY. AGAIN THE LAND ARE TRANSFERABLE. UM, THE. WRINKLE HERE IS THE REGISTERED THE REGISTRATION PIECE THAT TOOK A LOOK AT THE LMC. OH THAT IS NOT, YOU KNOW, ZONING REGULATION THAT'S REALLY DEALING MOSTLY WITH THE SORT OF FINANCIAL END OF THINGS AND METRO'S TRACKING, AND THAT SORT OF, UM AND SO WE HAD THIS SORT OF DUAL REGULATORY SYSTEM THAT IS UNIQUE TO SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND FRANKLY, WE DON'T HAVE REALLY ANY GUIDANCE. AS FAR AS CASE LAW GOES EXACTLY HOW FAR ONE MIGHT BE ABLE TO OVERLAP WITH THE OTHER AND WHAT THE IMPLICATIONS OF THAT MIGHT BE. UM AND SO THERE ARE PROVISIONS IN THE EXAMPLE THE SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH PORTION OF THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE THAT REQUIRES YOU TO COMPLY WITH THE REQUIREMENTS OF THE L M. C. O S REGISTRATION PROVISIONS. UM AND SO YOU GET, YOU KNOW, WE GET ONE CODE POINTED TO THE OTHER. AND IF YOU IF, AS JOE COVERED YOU COME OUT OF COMPLIANCE WITH YOUR , UH, CONDITIONS PERMIT REQUIREMENTS, THEN YOU CAN BE REVOKED. AND SO THAT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S NOT TRANSFERABLE. BUT IN THEORY, UM ONE PERSON COULD, YOU KNOW? HAVE A PROPERTY. HAVE A CCP HAVE A REGISTRATION SELL IT? UM NEW PERSON TO COME ALONG , NOT GET REGISTRATION. UM, SOME TIME PASSES. AND NOW THEY COME OUT OF COMPLIANCE AND THEY TRY TO COME BACK IN AND GET A NEW REGISTRATION. UM AND SUDDENLY THEY CAN'T COMPLY WITH, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE NEW TERMS OF THE NEW REGISTRATION ORDINANCE, WHICH IS AN ANNUAL RENEWAL VERSUS A SORT OF PERMANENT GOING FORWARD SAID THINGS GET MURKY, BUT THERE ARE OPPORTUNITIES, I GUESS. OR RISKS, DEPENDING ON YOUR PERSPECTIVE FOR EXISTING C UPS. TO END UP BEING REVOKED AND THE NUMBER OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES INCREASE WITH THESE CHANGES IN THE LAW. SO LET LET ME BE SPECIFIC ABOUT WHY I'M ASKING THE QUESTION OR I MEAN UM , A COUPLE OF REASONS. ONE UM.
IF, IF A. THIS IS AN EXTREME EXAMPLE. BUT I'VE USED THE ANALYSIS WITH NEW YORK CITY TAXI CABS BEFORE AS IT RELATES TO SHORT TERM SHORT TERM RENTALS. AND LET'S SAY AT A TIME IN THE FUTURE, WE BECAUSE OF THE 600 FT RULE BECAUSE OF A NUMBER OF OTHER THINGS. IT'S GONNA BE REALLY, REALLY HARD TO GET A SHORT TERM RENTAL, UH, LICENSED OR C U P FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL. AND SO YOU HAVE COMMODITIZED THESE THINGS TO THE POINT WHERE A HOUSE THAT HAS A C U P IN A CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOOD COULD BE WORTH THREE TIMES AS MUCH AS EVERY OTHER HOUSE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE IT HAS THAT T U P YOU'VE BASICALLY COMMODITIZED. THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED WITH IN NEW YORK CITY WHEN THEY WHEN THEY PROVIDED SCARCITY FOR TAXI MEDALLIONS AND MEDALLIONS. YOU KNOW WHEN CRAZY SO I DO THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AS WE'RE GOING FORWARD , WHETHER IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. YOU KNOW, WITHIN THIS ORDINANCE OR NOT, IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED. TO THINK ABOUT GOING FORWARD. IF IT'S TRANSFER, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE TRANSFERABLE. AND IT BECOMES A SCARCE COMMODITY. THEN YOU'VE GOT THIS WEIRD PRICING THING GOING ON WITHIN NEIGHBORHOODS AND LET ME ALSO JUST SAY IT FOR CLARIFICATION PURPOSES. I DON'T THINK IT WAS ANY OF OUR OUR INTENT TO TRY TO CLAW BACK. YOU KNOW THINGS SO THAT'S NOT REALLY WHAT I'M SUGGESTING HERE THAT WE'RE CALLING BACK RIGHTS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN GRANTED. WHAT I'M SUGGESTING IS THAT WE THINK ABOUT WITHIN THE CONTEXT OF MODIFYING. SHORT TERM RENTALS GOING FORWARD, AND I DON'T THINK WE WANT TO DO THAT. SO WHETHER
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SOMETHING EXPIRES AT SOME POINT IN TIME, WHICH OPENS UP A MARKET FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO THEN. APPLY FOR A SHORT TERM RENTAL. BUT YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THE 600 FT RULE DOESN'T APPLY TO THEM ANYMORE, OR WHETHER NONCONFORMING RIGHTS GO GO AWAY WITH A SALE OR SOMETHING ELSE. IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER WITHIN THIS CONSTANT CONTEXT. THANKS. THAT'S ALL I'VE GOT FOR NOW. COUNCILWOMAN RUI.YES THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS. AND I DIDN'T NOTICE ANYTHING SUBSTANTIATED COMPLAINTS AND WITHIN WHAT TIME PERIOD. IT'S THE EXISTING RULES WITHIN A 12 MONTH PERIOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. SO THAT WILL BE MAINTAINED THEN.
WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING ANY CHANGES TO THAT. OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME? I JUST FOLLOWING UP ON COUNCILMAN OWENS LINE OF QUESTIONING. I WOULD BE INTERESTED IN KNOWING WHETHER THERE'S A PRECEDENT FOR CREATING A TIME HORIZON BY WHICH, UH, CPS HAVE TO COME INTO TRIGGERED BY WHICH THEY WOULD HAVE TO COME INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THEIR EXISTING CODE JUST AS THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE CHANGES. YOU KNOW, WE'RE THINKING GENERATIONALLY. IT WAS CERTAINLY WANT TO PROTECT THE EXISTING PROPERTY OWNERS WHO HAVE BEEN GRANDFATHERED IN THEY BOUGHT IN AT A CERTAIN SYSTEM. WE WANT TO ABSOLUTELY RESPECT THAT, BUT OVER THE COURSE OF TIME WE DON'T WANT TO CREATE THAT SITUATION.
SO IS THERE, TRAVIS AND THIS MIGHT NOT BE RIGHT NOW QUESTION. BUT IS THERE A PRECEDENT FOR THAT WITHIN OUR EXISTING LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE, SO STATE LAW EFFECTIVELY PREVENTS A SUNSET PERIOD ON NONCONFORMING RIGHTS, AT LEAST FOR THE TIME BEING WITHIN LOUISVILLE METRO. I THINK LEXINGTON MIGHT HAVE A UNIQUE PROVISION OR RATHER ALL URBAN COUNTY GOVERNMENTS, BUT THAT'S JUST LICENSING FOR THE TIME BEING HAS A UNIQUE PROVISION THAT ALLOWS THEM TO DO THAT, BUT METRO DOES NOT AT THE MOMENT. UM AND SO AGAIN, SETTING ASIDE CPS THAT ARE, UM YOU KNOW SOMEONE'S IN VIOLATION OF THEIR FORMALLY UM. I FORGOT THE TERM. WE USED STROKE REVOKED, SETTING SIDE REVOCATIONS. UM THOSE ARE GONNA CONTINUE TO RUN AND LIEUTENANT TELL SOME STATE LAW CHANGES MADE. OKAY, SO JUST FOR CLARITY, THEY'RE THEY'RE ALL THE EXISTING OWNERS WILL BE GRANDFATHERED INTO THE THEIR PREVIOUS LEGISLATIVE REGIME. RIGHT. AND THEN THERE WILL BE NOW TWO DIFFERENT TIERS OF SORT OF GRANDFATHER DR. WILL BE ONE FROM THE FIRST ROUND OF YOUR TERMINAL ORDINANCES. NO. ONE FROM THE SECOND ROUND. UM THE EXCEPTION IS THE IS THE REGISTRATION POINT BECAUSE THOSE ARE ONE YEAR QUOTE UNQUOTE LICENSES. YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE GOING TO NEED TO BE THAT NEW LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BE NEED TO BE COMPLIED WITH AS THESE COME UP FOR RENEWAL, BUT THAT YOU KNOW THAT'S AGAIN. THAT'S THE LMC. OH, PLEASE, NOT THE LDC PIECE. THE ACTUAL CONTRIBUTE CONDITIONALLY USE PERMITS SHOULD REMAIN IN PLACE AGAIN UNLESS THEY ARE REVOKED.
AND AGAIN NOT TO BELABOR THE POINT. BUT SO THERE IS PRECEDENT YOU SAID WITHIN LEXINGTON, FAYETTE COUNTY'S STRUCTURE THAT WAS GRANTED TO THEM BY STATE GOVERNMENT. SO THERE'S PRECEDENT , BUT IT ONLY APPLIES TO THAT STRUCTURE OF GOVERNMENT AND NOT TWO HOURS SO WE WOULD HAVE TO THEN GO TO FRANKFURT TO HAVE THEM. GRANT US THE SAME RIGHTS THAT ARE GRANTED WITHIN LIKE LEXINGTON STRUCTURE IS THAT IS THAT MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT ON THAT. THAT'S A PRETTY GOOD THANKS. AND THEN THE SUNSET. JUST I'LL FINISH THIS LINE OF QUESTIONING, SO THE SUNSETTING PROVISION THAT ILLEGAL BY STATE LAW. ARE THERE TRIGGERS AROUND PROPERTY SALES OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT? THAT ARE. WE DO HAVE PRECEDENT FOR IF IT'S NOT A TIME BOUND SUNSET. SO BUT GENERALLY MOST OF THE CASE LAW IN THIS AREA DEALS WITH ZONE. ING'S AND USE IS NOT SO MUCH CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. SPECIFICALLY THERE'S A LITTLE BIT LESS GUIDANCE AND THAT, YOU KNOW, NARROW. FIELD.
UM. I DON'T THINK WE'VE EVER HAD ANY PROVISIONS OF THE CODE. NONE THAT I'M AWARE OF ANY ANY WAY THAT MIGHT UM COVER SOME OTHER SORT OF STANDARD BY WHICH I CAN CHOOSE PERMIT MIGHT BE REVOKED OTHER THAN TIME. UM DOESN'T MEAN NO ONE'S TRIED IT JUST NOTHING THAT I'M AWARE OF. THANK YOU. UM AND THEN FROM AN EQUITY PERSPECTIVE, INTERESTED IN IN ANY PARTS THAT YOU ALL HAVE HAD ABOUT. AH RENTERS WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNERS, PRESUMING THAT THE RENTER IS THE PRIMARY RESIDENT HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED AT ALL? WE? WE CONSIDERED THAT. BUT WHAT WE
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ULTIMATELY DECIDED IS ALL THE RENTERS. THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOWED UNDER TO HOST OCCUPIED HAVE THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNER. WE DON'T ALLOW YOU TO SUBMIT ANY APPLICATION TO OUR OFFICE WITHOUT THE OWNER'S SIGNING OFF ON IT, SO THAT HASN'T BEEN THE ISSUE. IF YOU'RE ASKING IF WE CONSIDERED WITH THE CHANGE FROM HOST OWNER IF WE CONSIDERED WHETHER OR NOT THERE WERE CERTAIN RENTERS THAT YOU KNOW, WE'RE ONLY RENTING REGULARLY, UM WOULD THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNER? BUT STILL REALLY MAINTAINED THEIR PRIMARY RESIDENCY. WE DID CONSIDER THAT, BUT WE FOUND THAT IT WOULD JUST BE EASIER TO MANAGE BY JUST CHANGING IT FROM HOST TO OWNER NOT HAVING ANY CARVE OUT UM TO ADDRESS A PARTICULAR SITUATION. IF THAT ANSWERS YOUR QUESTION, I THINK I SEE WHAT YOU'RE TRYING. TO HAVE US LOOK AT AND WE DID, BUT IT'S JUST IT WAS CLEANER JUST TO RECOMMEND FROM HOST TO OWNER AND NOT HAVE ANY PARTICULAR SITUATIONS WHERE THE RENTER MIGHT HAVE A UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCE. YEAH I MEAN, I'M JUST SO WE'RE 100% CLEAR THAT THE CIRCUMSTANCES I'M INTERESTED IN IS THAT THERE IS A LONG TERM RENTER WHO IS WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE OWNER INTERESTED IN OPERATING AN AIRBNB IS THAT POSSIBLE? UM AND THAT'S THE THAT IS THE QUESTIONING AND YOU'RE SAYING THIS WOULD BE ADMINISTRATIVELY VERY COMPLEX TO DO THAT? WE WOULD HAVE TO KNOW WHAT WHAT TYPES OF RENTERS QUALIFY, AND WE COULD LIKELY CREATE SOME KIND OF CARVE OUT TO THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT TO WHERE THEY WOULDN'T NEED IT. BUT AS IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, IF YOU'RE A RENTER, AND YOU HAVE RESIDENTIAL ZONING OR TMZ D ZONE AND YOU WOULD NEED YOU COULD STILL DO IT. YOU WOULD JUST NEED THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. THANK YOU. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. I'M JUST A FEW QUESTIONS AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE THEM QUICK. OUR FREQUENCIES DEFINED QUANTITATIVELY. AND THE AND THE ORDINANCE OR JUST UM. I'M TRYING TO FIND THE SLIDE. UM IT SAYS, WELL, THE SIDE THAT SAYS FREQUENCIES OF STRS OCCASIONALLY REGULARLY AND CONTINUOUSLY. I MEAN, OBVIOUSLY CONTINUOUSLY HAVE HAS 365 DAYS. BUT IS THERE A DEFINITION FOR REGULAR? WE DIDN'T DEFINE IT BECAUSE WHEN WE LOOKED AT OUR ORDINANCE AND WHAT SOME OTHER CITIES DID. IT'S VERY, VERY DIFFICULT. DETERMINE HOW MANY DAYS THE UNIT HAS BEEN RENTED. SOME CITIES HAVE TRIED TO REGULATE THAT BY SAYING. YOU HAVE 180 DAYS AND YOU CAN GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. IF IT'S MORE THAN 180 DAYS, YOU GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS. BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY DAYS THEY RENTED? UM YOU HAVE TO RELY ON INFORMATION PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANTS. SO WHILE WE LOOKED AT THOSE THREE SCENARIOS, WE DIDN'T REGULATE THEM ANY DIFFERENTLY IF YOU RENT ONE DAY OUT OF THE YEAR. UM YOU NEED THE REGISTRATION YOU RENT 365 DAYS YOU NEED THE SAME REGISTRATION.WE DIDN'T. CODIFY THAT WE JUST LOOKED AT THE SITUATION. UM SO IT'S NOT IN THERE. IT'S ARBITRARY AS WE PRESENTED IT. ARBITRARY IS A GOOD WORD. OUT OF THOSE 5014 APPLICATIONS. YOU SAID THAT MANY OF THOSE WERE REPEATS. DO YOU HAVE A NUMBER FOR THAT? NO UM, EXCEL. IT DOESN'T ALLOW US TO TRACK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY GIVE SOME BALLPARKS. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED . I'LL TRY MY BEST TO KIND OF FIGURE OUT HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE RENEWED FROM YEAR TO YEAR. BUT FOR SOME REASON, X L A HAD A RENEWAL OPTION. IT NEVER HAS WORKED. SO EVERYBODY EACH YEAR COME IN AS A NEW APPLICATION. WE COULD PROBABLY SORT OUT AND SEE HOW MANY ADDRESSES SHOW UP MULTIPLE TIMES AND GET YOU A BETTER NUMBER. IF YOU WOULD LIKE THAT. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE NUMBERS WITH THIS NEXT TIME THAT WE COME TO THIS TABLE WOULD BE GOOD, TOO. COMPARE DATA. YEAH UM, THE RESTRICTION FOR 12 ADULTS THAT LANGUAGE DOESN'T REALLY MAKE SENSE TO ME. NO QUESTION JUST TO COMMENT. WHEN IT SAYS, EXPLAIN HOW UM MY GOODNESS. EXPLAIN HOW THIS WORKS TERM RENTAL IF SO SORRY. UM TO GET A WAIVER FOR THE 600 FT RULE, IT SAYS, EXPLAIN HOW THEIR SHORT TERM RENTAL WILL NOT CONTRIBUTE TO THE OVER SATURATION OR NEGATIVELY IMPACT. AFFORDABLE HOUSING. UM THIS KIND OF SOUNDS LIKE A STUDENT ASSIGNMENT TO UNDERSTAND AFFORDABLE HOUSING.
UM IT'S COMPLETELY SUBJECTIVE BY THE PERSON WHO'S GRADING THIS CORRECT. AND IS THERE REALLY ANY POINT TO IT? BUT NEXT TIME AT LEAST ADDRESS THOSE TWO ISSUES RIGHT NOW THEY DON'T ADDRESS THEM AT ALL. AND WE CAN'T REQUIRE THEM TO ADDRESS SOME. I DO AGREE THAT AS IT'S WRITTEN
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RIGHT NOW, THEY DON'T HAVE TO NECESSARILY ADDRESS IT. TO A CERTAIN EXTENT, THEY JUST AT LEAST HAVE TO TALK ABOUT THOSE TWO THINGS. IT COULD BE. YOU KNOW, STRENGTHENED A LITTLE BIT MORE IF WE WANT THEM TO ADDRESS CERTAIN THINGS IN A LITTLE BIT TO A CERTAIN LEVEL OF DETAIL, OR WE COULD ALLOW THE PORT IS OWNING ADJUSTMENT TO ADOPT A POLICY. UM THAT HAS A CERTAIN STANDARD OF WHAT THEY EXPECT PEOPLE TO ADDRESS BUT YOU'RE RIGHT. IT IS BASIC, BUT AS IT'S WRITTEN TO A DEGREE FLEXIBLE, BUT. DICK THE COMMENT THAT WE GOT IS PEOPLE FELT THE 600 FT RULE WAS PUT INTO PLACE FOR THOSE TWO REASONS. AND I KNOW EACH COUNCIL PERSON THAT ADOPTED IT HAD MIGHT HAVE HAD THEIR OWN REASONS, BUT THE TWO THINGS WE HEAR THE MOST FROM THE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT PUT INTO PLACE IT WAS STOPOVER, CONCENTRATION AND TO STOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO STAFF'S RESPONSE TO THAT IS IF YOU'RE GOING TO ASK FOR RELIEF TO THAT PROVISION WHERE COUNCIL WAS VERY CLEAR ON THEIR INTENT. YOU SHOULD AT LEAST ADDRESS THOSE TWO ISSUES THAT COUNCIL OF ASKED AND BUT I DO AGREE THAT THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN IT THAT MIGHT NOT BE THE MOST DETAILED RESPONSE COMING FROM THE APPLICANT, BUT THE BOARD IS ON AN ADJUSTMENT. MIGHT EXPECT MORE TO GRANT RELIEF THAT'S ULTIMATELY GOING TO BE SUBJECTIVE TO THEM, AS YOU STATED RIGHT. IT JUST SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING THAT A I COULD JUST RIGHT IF THERE'S A CHECKBOX FOR WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AGAIN, THERE'S NO NOTHING REALLY TO GRADED OR A MATRIX OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. AND EVEN IF YOU CREATED A MATRIX AGAIN, JUST AS A STUDENT ASSIGNMENT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE THEY UNDERSTAND. WHAT THEY'RE WRITING SO UM, I KNOW THAT THERE WAS ANOTHER, UM. ISSUE WITH A CITATION DATABASE. NOT EXISTING , UM OR AT LEAST A PUBLIC FACING ONE. IS THERE A CITATION DATABASE AND ARE IS THAT MANAGED BY SHORT TERM RENTAL REGISTRATION OR BY. OWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER LLC. WHOEVER'S MANAGING THAT PROPERTY, SO THAT WAY WHEN SOMEBODY GOES AND LIKE APPLIES FOR ANOTHER HOUSE, WHAT WE SEE YOU HAVE ANOTHER HOME SHORT TERM RENTAL. THAT HAS A LOT OF CITATIONS. YOU'RE NOT A GOOD PLAYER. SO IS THAT BEING LOOKED AT? YEAH THAT'S THAT IS BEING LOOKED AT. SO THE ISSUE IS, I THINK YOU'RE ASKING. WE WE DO KNOW OF ALL THE SHORT TERM RENTAL CITATIONS THAT WE SENT OUT. THAT'S ALL TRACKED THROUGH EXCEL, AND WE KEEP SPREADSHEETS ON THAT, BUT I THINK YOU'RE ASKING ABOUT A SPECIFIC PROPERTY THAT MIGHT BE GETTING COMPLAINTS IN THE ISSUE OF TAKING AWAY THE REGISTRATION. WE TRACK EVERYTHING THROUGH EXELON NOW, SO THAT WOULD INCLUDE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS. ZONING VIOLATIONS AND. BUILDING CODE VIOLATIONS. WHAT ISN'T TRACKED IN X ELLA OR L NPT VIOLATIONS, BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM TO HAVE MORE COMMUNICATION. AND SHARING OF INFORMATION. SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN THOSE HAPPEN RIGHT NOW. THEY WILL TELL US ONCE IF WE EMAIL THEM, SO IF YOU GIVE ME A PROPERTY AND SAY, L N P D RESPONDED, I CAN CALL THEM IN HOTEL ME. BUT I DON'T HAVE A WAY TO CHECK THAT MYSELF, AND WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS THAT RIGHT NOW. BUT I DO HAVE A WAY TO IMMEDIATELY CHECKED PROPERTY MAINTENANCE AND BUILDING CODE VIOLATIONS. EVEN THOUGH I'M NOT IN THOSE DEPARTMENTS, SO WE'RE GETTING THERE. BUT THERE'S STILL WORK TO BE DONE. AND YOUR LAST QUESTION JUST AS A FOLLOW UP, UM AND THAT IS LOOKED AT BY OWNER OR HOST OR OCCUPANT. FROM THE CONTEXT OF THE COMPLAINTS. I MEAN, IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. THAT'S JUST IF YOU HAVE THE TWO VIOLATIONS. ON THE PROPERTY AS LONG AS THEY'RE ASSOCIATED WITH THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. IT DOESN'T REALLY MATTER. IF ITS OWNER OR HOST WE WOULD JUST. LOOK UP, WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A COMPLAINT TIED TO THE SHORT TERM RENTAL. I'LL BE DONE FOR NOW. THANK YOU. COUNCILMAN BET, SEAN. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION IS PRETTY IN DEPTH AND VERY INFORMATIVE. HAVE 22 THINGS. UM, FIRST OF ALL, WHO IS GOING TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR AUDITING ALL OF THE SHORT TERM. REYNOLDS UM, ON A REGULAR BASIS TO AVOID ANY OF THE COMPLICATIONS AND LACK OF OVERSIGHT ON CERTAIN ISSUES. PLANNING AND DESIGN. OUR OFFICE OF PLANNING NOW WOULD BE THE OFFICE THAT WOULD BE MAINTAINING THE DATABASE OF THE REGISTRATIONS. AND WE DO HAVE A PRETTY GOOD. LIST OF ALL ACTIVE REGISTRATIONS, AND WE EVEN MET THEM ONLINE. SO WE HAVE AN IDEA OF WHERE ALL THE REGISTRATIONS ARE AT ANY GIVEN TIME. SO IT[02:20:04]
ULTIMATELY BE OUR OFFICE THAT WOULD KIND OF MAINTAIN THAT. UM PIGGYBACK OFF FROM COUNCIL. UM AND ALL WINS. UH, COMMENTS IN, UM REFERENCING THE NEW YORK SITUATION. UM THE SALE OF A PROPERTY. UM WAS TO HAPPEN AND THE OWNERS WERE TO CHANGE. CERTAINLY WRITE SOMETHING INTO THIS, WHERE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY SO THAT THERE IS NO VALUE SECURITY AND INFLATING THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND CERTAIN HOUSES IN THOSE COMMUNITIES. WELL IT'S ALREADY ENDING LISTING ORDINANCE THAT THE NEW OWNER WOULD HAVE TO REAPPLY FOR THE REGISTRATION. UM, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS WHAT QUITE THE DISCUSSION OVER GRANDFATHER AND AS WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD DENY THAT APPLICATION, BUT RIGHT NOW, THE WAY IT'S ALREADY IN THE ORDINANCE THAT IF THERE'S A CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP, THE NEW OWNER HAS TO APPLY. AND IF THEY HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE, THEY FAILED TOPPLY WITHIN SIX MONTHS. THEY LOSE THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S ALREADY IN THE EXISTING ORDINANCE. OKAY, UM CIR IW H TION TO POSSIBLYABLE THIS AND WE CAN REVISIT SO WE CAN ACTUALLY, MAYBE A GROUP OF US CAN GET A CONSENSUS TOGETHER AND MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND REALLY THOROUGHLY GO OVER THIS. PROBLEM SO THAT'S ALLOWED, UM I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO TABLE, CAN YOU CAN YOU MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS THEIR WE HAVE 10 MINUTES LEFT. THEN IF WE'RE GOING TO GET SO THAT WE CAN, UM, WE HAVE TO VOTE ON BECAUSE IT'S SECOND. IT CAN YOU WITHDRAW ALL YOUR MOTION AND FOR JUST SO I CAN SEE IF ANYBODY ELSE HAS ANY QUESTIONS BECAUSE I'M HAVING I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT. YES I CAN WITHDRAW THE MOTION FOR A MOMENT AND I'LL COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU. UM I'M JUST HAVING, UM, SOMETIMES SPEAKERS ARE THERE SOMETIMES. THE SAME ONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS. ONLINE. UM MR RENO WEBER DISAPPEARED. OKAY? PARDON? THERE HE IS. OKAY OKAY. GOOD. THANK YOU. GOOD. ANYONE ELSE HAVE QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD BECAUSE TRAVIS HAS TAKING NOTES, SO IT'S A LONG LIST. OF THINGS THAT WE NEED TO STRAIGHTEN OUT BEFORE. I THINK WE NEED TO GO FORWARD. SO INDEED. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? MR BAKER? OKAY. SEEING NOTHING. THEN GO AHEAD. COUNCILMAN ABOUT SEAN. I'D LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTION TO TABLE THIS CIRCUIT. PROPERLY MOVING IN SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF TABLE AND SIGNIFY BY SAYING, AYE. I BUY LIKE SIGN HEARING ON THE MOTION CARRIES. UM AND I BELIEVE THAT IS. ALL THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE TIME TO GET INTO ON OUR AGENDA TODAY, AND WE ARE WE ARE ACTUALLY FINISHED WITH WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THINGS THAT ARE HELD, AND I JUST WANT TO REMIND THE COMMITTEE THAT WHEN DIRECTOR LIU SAID THAT WE'RE GONNA BE BUSY, BUSY, BUSY , UM, I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT AS A MANTLE AND USUALLY WE DO NOT GET CASES NECESSARILY. WE ALREADY HAD SIX CASES. THAT WILL BE INTRODUCED. AT OUR NEXT MEETING, AND THEY'RE NOT FINISHED. SO I'M JUST SAYING, SO. WE'RE GOING TO GET BUSY, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO, UH KEEP MOVING. THIS COMMITTEE USED TO BE 2.5 HOURS LONG BECAUSE IT WAS SO BUSY. SO UM THEY SHORTENED IT TO TWO BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE A LOT OF THINGS. AND NOW WE'RE GETTING BUSY. AND SO, UM, THANK YOU ALL FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK, AND IT WAS A LOT OF THINGS TO DIGEST OVER THE WEEKEND, SO I[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]
APPRECIATE ALL YOUR HARD EFFORTS, AND UNTIL WE MEET AGAIN WE ARE ADJOURNED. LIKEWISE, THANK YOU.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.