Jul 19, 2023 Government Oversight/ Audit and Appointments Committee

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UM COUNCILMAN REED COUNCILMAN. BENSON. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS IN CHAMBERS. WE HAVE COUNCILMAN RENO WEBER COUNCILMAN, DANCE SIGN, AND COUNCILWOMAN, UM JENNIFER CHAPEL. OKAY COUNCILMAN RICK BLACKWELL HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE TODAY. WE HAVE. SIX OR 76. UM APPOINTMENTS AND THEN A SPECIAL DISCUSSION AFTER THAT. OUR FIRST CAN YOU RAISE THESE FIND REPLACE THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CARE, A 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE FILE. UH A READ IN FULL. THANK YOU, MA'AM. SO OUR FIRST APPOINTMENT IS A P 071923 PB APPOINTMENT OF PHILIP BOND TO THE AFFORDABLE

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UM DO WE HAVE ANYONE ON THE COMMITTEE THAT HAS ANY QUESTIONS? LOOKING TO SEE. OKAY? NO ONE AND SO WITH NO ONE IN THE CUTEST SPEAK. THIS IS AN, UM, AN APPOINTMENT. WE CAN DO A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. BYE. UM, KNOWS ABOUT LIKE SIGN. UM THIS WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I'M NUMBER TWO IS A P 071923 MG. A APPOINTMENT OF MARIAH GRANTS TO THE GREATER LOUISVILLE LODGING MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BOARD TERM EXPIRES MAY 1ST 2026. DO I HEAR A MOTION? PROPERLY MOVED IN SECOND IN, UM, THIS MORAL BECAUSE TOMORROW MAY A GREENBERG'S OFFICE WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF MARIAH GRANTS TO THE GREATER LOCAL LODGING MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BOARD. MARIAH IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT EIGHT AND HAS LIVED IN LOUISVILLE FOR 30 YEARS. MARIAH IS THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER FOR WAYLON VENTURES. MARIAH HAS PREVIOUSLY SERVED ON THE FOLLOWING BOARDS GREATER LEVEL INC. UNIVERSITY OF OVER REAL ESTATE FOUNDATION AND THE LOCAL DOWNTOWN DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION. THANK YOU, MA'AM. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? SEEN, UM. SOMEBODY HAS THEIR. DO YOU WANT? OKAY? UM . THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT THAT WE CAN DO WITH A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. UH HUH. I LIKE SIGN. UM THIS PASSES AND WILL ALSO GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ADAM, NUMBER THREE IS A P 071923 80 APPOINTMENT OF ANN THOMPSON. TO THE KENTUCKY AND A WORKS GREATER LEVEL OF THEIR WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 17 2024, DO I HEAR A MOTION? YOU SHOULD READ. PROPERLY WITH THE SECONDED MISS MORE THAT'S ALL TOMORROW. MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF AN THOMPSON TO THE GREATER LOUISVILLE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT BOARD AND IS THE CURRENT MANAGER OF THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT FOR FORD MOTOR COMPANY. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM FROM THE COMMITTEE. UM COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL DOES MISS THOMPSON LIVED AND KENTUCKY AND MOVE FORWARD THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE SO. BUT I CAN CHECK ON THAT FOR YOU. IS THAT WEREN'T HER BEING APPOINTED TO THE BOARD. SHE DOESN'T DOES THAT WARRANT HER BEING APPOINTED TO THE BOARD IF SHE DOESN'T LIVE HERE? SOMETHING I CAN FOLLOW UP ON FOR YOU. AND MAYBE, LIKE TWO MOTION THE TABLE THAT UNLESS ANYONE UM ALICE LAMB WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND I

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TO THE LOCAL CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 28 2026, DO I HEAR A MOTION MOTION PURPOSE? THANK YOU PROPERLY MOVED THE SECOND MISS MAUREL TOMORROW, MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE. YOU'RE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF CHRISTIE LINDA ROBINSON TO THE GLOBAL CONVENTION AND VISITORS BUREAU. CHRISSY IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 19 AND HAS BEEN A RESIDENT OF LOCAL FOR 53 YEARS. CHRISTIE IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNICATIONS AND STRATEGIC PARTNERSHIP FOR LBGT DEVELOPMENT. IN THIS CAPACITY, CHRISTIE HANDLES ALL BRANDING, COMMUNICATIONS AND MARKETING EFFORTS. THANK YOU, UM. COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. WERE YOU IN THE QUEUE FOR THIS APPOINTMENT? OKAY I'VE BEEN CLEAR IT, OKAY? ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE ON THIS ONE? WE'VE BEEN JOINED THE COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS. UM. OKAY SEE, YOU KNOW ONE THIS CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. UH I LIKE SIGN AND THIS WILL ALSO GO TO THE, UM TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. ADAM. NUMBER FIVE IS R P 071923 SB REAPPOINTMENT OF SHARON BOND TO THE BOARD OF THE ZONING ADJUSTMENT TERM EXPIRES JUNE 30TH 2026, SO I HEAR A MOTION MOTION PURPOSE. PROBABLY MOVED AND SECONDED THIS MORAL THE TOUR TOMORROW, AND THEY'RE GREENBERG'S OFFICE. WE ARE ASKING FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF SHARING BONDS TO THE BOARD OF ZONING ADJUSTMENT. SHARON IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT FIVE. SHARON IS THE DEPUTY CHIEF OF THE CIVIL WORKS, PLANNING PROGRAMS AND PROJECT MANAGEMENT DIVISION FOR THE LOCAL DISTRICT . CORPSE OF ENGINEERS SHARING IS AN AVID SUPPORTER OF HER COMMUNITY AND HAS PRIORITIZED THAT FROM VERY EXPORTS INCREASED. INTO THE EFFORT. THANK YOU. LOOKING TO SEE IF THERE'S ANYBODY IN THE QUEUES. ADAM SAID. THIS IS COUNCILMAN REED. I'M TRYING TO LOG IN, AND I CANNOT FOR SOME REASON, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE GO AHEAD. I NOTICED THAT THERE ARE NO NONE OF THESE, UH, APPLICANTS THAT ARE ACTUALLY LIVE AND IN PERSON WAS WONDERING IS THE ADMINISTRATION NOT ASKING FOR THESE PEOPLE TO ACTUALLY FROM THE CITY HALL SO THAT WE CAN ASK THEM QUESTIONS? THE LAST ADMINISTRATION I THOUGHT WITH A PRETTY GOOD JOB OF THAT. AT LEAST FOR THE LAST 2 TO 3 YEARS. IT'S ALWAYS BEST IF YOU CAN PUT A NAME WITH A FACE. SO ARE YOU ASKING ME A QUESTION? I MEAN, BASICALLY, WE AFTER TALKING WITH IT. I'M SORRY, ARE WE ARE WE ASKING THE APPLICANTS TO ACTUALLY COME TO CITY HALL SO WE CAN ASK WHERE GIVEN ABOUT? WE'RE GIVING THEM THE OPTION. THAT THEY THEY'RE WELCOME TO COME. OKAY THEY'RE NOT TOLD US MANDATORY. NONE OF THEM WERE MANDATORY BEFORE. UM I GET THAT BUT WE WERE GETTING MANY MORE THAN ACTUALLY CAME. AND I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO VERY STRONGLY ENCOURAGE THEM TO COME. PARTICULARLY IN CERTAIN WORDS, RIGHT SOME SOME MORE IMPORTANT THAN OTHERS, BUT RIGHT YEAH, AND AGAIN. I'M NOT. I'M NOT KNOCKING ANYWAY, I'M JUST SAYING THAT THAT WE DON'T WANT TO GET INTO THE HABIT OF JUST SIMPLY RUBBER STAMPING SOMETHING AND MAYBE SOME QUESTIONS THAT THAT THERE ARE MORE RAPID APPLICABLE AND SOMEBODY IS ACTUALLY LIVE AND IN PERSON. YOU

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WOULD YOU FEEL MORE COMFORTABLE ? WE ADDRESS THAT WHEN SHE'S BACK. YEAH, THAT'S FINE. YEAH AND SO WHEN EMPTY A COMES BACK ON THE 15TH. I THINK THAT WE'VE GOT A MEETING SET UP. UM WE'RE WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO SET ONE, BUT I DON'T. I DON'T THINK WE GOTTA SET YET. BUT UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE, UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT SOME OTHER THINGS AS WELL. SO YEAH. YEAH SO I, BUT I WANTED TO DO THAT AFTER SHE GOT BACK IN FAIRNESS TO HER. OKAY THANKS.

THANK YOU, COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. IT'S WONDERFUL THAT WE HAVE PEOPLE SERVING ON THESE BOARDS BECAUSE THEY'RE DIFFICULT JOBS, BUT I WAS WONDERING IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT PROHIBITS. HUSBAND AND WIFE FROM SERVING ON BOARDS, EVEN IF THEY'RE DIFFERENT. SO WE JUST APPOINTED PHILIP BOND, THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING TRUST FUND, AND NOW WE'RE APPOINTING SHARON BOND, WHO I'M ASSUMING IS HIS WIFE, WHO HE REFERENCED IN HIS EMAIL OR IN HIS COVER LETTER. IS THERE ANYTHING THAT BARS A HUSBAND ENTIRELY DIFFERENT BOARD SO IT DOESN'T APPLY? DARWIN WILL . OKAY UM, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE ? I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE? BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU THOSE ON LAND A CHANCE. IF YOU'VE GOT ANY QUESTIONS, I DON'T SEE ANY. UM SO THIS ALSO CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY, AYE. AH AND KNOWS BY LIKE SIGN THIS WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR. I DON'T NUMBER SIX IS R P 071923 A H REAPPOINTMENT OF ANDREW HARPER POLL TO THE SORRY . TO THE CEMETERY BOARD TERM EXPIRES APRIL 13TH 2026, DO I HEAR A MOTION MOTION PURPOSE? PERFECTLY MOVED HIS SECOND. IT IS BEFORE US MISS MORAL THAT'S ALL TOMORROW. MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE. WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF ANDREW HARPAL TO THE CEMETERY BOARD. ANDREW WAS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN. ANDREW HAS BEEN VOLUNTEERING WITH VARIOUS GROUPS SINCE 2013 TO IMPROVE IT CONDITIONS AT CEMETERIES. AND DO YOU KNOW THAT IS THAT JUST THE CEMETERIES THAT WE OVERSEE? AND JUST METRO GOVERNMENT. THAT I WOULD NOT KNOW FOR SURE. OKAY IT'S JUST A QUESTION. I KNOW THE PARKS DEPARTMENT COVERS THE GUIDELINES. WE CAN GET THOSE FROM HIM. YEAH, OKAY. UM. NO.

ONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS? UM I DON'T SEE YOU IN HERE. BUT YOU'RE WELCOME TO SPEAK.

COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL. I JUST WANTED TO THANK MR HART PULLS EFFORTS FOR, UM, EVERYTHING HE'S DONE IN EASTERN CEMETERY. SECONDED. I'M SORRY. WHAT NOW? I MISSED THAT. OH, YES. YEAH.

YEAH, THAT'S WONDERFUL. THAT'S WHAT THAT SO TOO. I WAS LIKE, WAIT A MINUTE. WHAT? BECAUSE YOU SAID SECOND, AND I WAS LIKE, WHOA, WHOA, WHOA, WAIT, WAIT. GOOD JOB TODAY. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO THANK MR HART PULP FOR HIS EFFORTS IN THE EXCITED TO HAVE HIM AS PART OF THE CEMETERY PROCESS. OKAY UM SO THIS THIS CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. YEAH UM , I LIKE SIGN. THIS ALSO WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR AND I'M TOLD THAT WE CAN GO BACK TO NUMBER THREE WAS THAT NUMBER THREE? UM AND THAT IS, UM UH, NEED A MOTION TO UNTAES ABLE.

PURPOSELY MOVED. OUR BOAT MOTIONED AND TWO UNPAYABLE, UM MISS LYONS. THIS IS ALICE LINE WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, AND I LOOKED AT THE ENABLING ORDINANCES AND STATUTES , AND THERE'S NOT A JEFFERSON COUNTY RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT FOR THAT BOARD. OKAY? DOES THAT? ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS? MAYBE NOT. THE JEFFERSON COUNTY ATTORNEY DID A GREAT JOB. THANK YOU. IT ANSWERED MY QUESTION. IT DOESN'T HELP ME FORMULATE MY OPINION ON IT. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? OKAY? SO THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT THAT WE CAN HAVE A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN

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THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT UM AND THANK YOU, MISS LYONS. UM SO NOW WE HAVE, UM. SPECIAL

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UM WE HAVEN'T SCHEDULED BUT OBVIOUSLY FOR 24 HOURS A DAY. SO IF SOMEONE ON VACATION THAN SOMEONE WHO COVER IT, SOMEONE'S TRAINING OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT THERE IS LEAST ONE ON CALL 24 HOURS A DAY, BUT GENERALLY 24 HOURS A DAY ON SITE. SO YOU YOU KEEP THE CANINE PROTOCOL AND PROCEDURES IN HOUSE OR IS THAT IN YOUR TRAINING FACILITY? THE SURE THAT ARE SEEKING THIS CERTIFICATION. YEAH, THAT'S ALL IN HOUSE. OKAY OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND, UM DO YOU HAVE A GOAL FOR RECRUITING AND RETAINING MINORITIES AND WOMEN? YES WE'RE VERY FOCUSED ON AGAIN. I JUST TOLD YOU SOME OF THE AREA CODES THAT WERE I'M SEARCHING AND RADIO AND NONE OF THAT OR MINORITY BASE CAN GO OVER THE NUMBERS WE HAVE CURRENTLY WITH THAT, BUT WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING TO MAKE SURE OUR OUR NUMBERS ARE GREAT TO GO ACROSS METRO GOVERNMENT, ESPECIALLY PUBLIC SAFETY AGENCIES. BUT I CAN GO OVER THOSE NUMBERS. CAN YOU? CAN YOU JUST GIVE ME A BREAKDOWN? THE MATRIX? HOW MANY WOMEN? UM HOW MANY TOTAL STAFF FORSWORN LIKE TO HAVE BOTH. OKAY FIRST TOTAL. WE HAVE 316 MALES WITH 69% 145 FEMALES THAT STARTING 1% ASIAN YOU. YOU SPEAK THE FIRST LANGUAGE TO HOW MANY WOMEN DO YOU HAVE? UM 316, MILES 300. THIS IS TOTAL STAFF 316 MILLS MILLS, OKAY. 145 FEMALE. OKAY? THREE ASIAN MALES. THREE ASIANS . YES, OKAY, 88. BLACK MALES.

OKAY? 14 HISPANIC MALE. OKAY TO 109 WHITE MALES. I'M GOING TO THE FEMALES NOW. OKAY THREE ASIAN FEMALE. 87 BLACK FEMALES. YOU SAID EIGHTIES 87 BLACK FEMALES. YES, MA'AM. YOU SAID YOU HAVE 88 BLOCKS 87 BLACK FEMALES. HEY, BABY. YEAH. IT PROBABLY WOULD BE EASY BECAUSE BUT YOURSELF. OH YOU SAID 88 MEN AT FIRST. OKAY MEN WERE 88. I'M SORRY. I'M SORRY. OKAY. AND THEN YOU HAVE 87 BLACK FEMALES CORRECT. OKAY? HISPANIC MALE IS THREE. WHITE FEMALE IS 52.

THAT'S THE TOTAL IMMIGRANTS THICK AND I CAN GO OVER THE SOARING DEMOGRAPHIC IF YOU LIKE.

OKAY? OKAY SO ANY OF THE WOMEN AND THE MINORITIES HOLD LEADERSHIP ROLES. UH YES. ACROSS THE ACROSS THE BOARD. I MEAN FROM CIVILIAN TO, UM, SWORN HOW MANY, UH, MAJORS DO YOU HAVE THAT ARE WOMEN. UM SENIOR STAFF. I DON'T HAVE ANY MAJORS THAT ARE WOMEN, BUT SENIOR STAFF, I HAVE

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IS THAT TRUE? WE HAD WE HAD LATERALS TO LATERALS FROM RUTGERS OWN. OKAY, SO, UM AND I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT SKILLS OR TALENTS DID THEY HAVE? UH VERSUS ANYONE LOCALLY THAT YOU BROUGHT THEM FROM ANOTHER MARKET. UH OUT OF STATE. THAT WAS PART OF OUR LATERAL PROGRAM, AND WE RECRUIT LOCALLY FOR THAT, TOO. BUT THAT'S COMING FROM OTHER JAILS. SO THAT WASN'T LIMITED TO KENTUCKY. I THINK 90% HAVE COME FROM KENTUCKY, AND I THINK THOSE ARE THE ONLY TWO OUT OF STATE FOLKS. SO IF THEY ARE MAKING MORE AT THEIR OTHER JOBS. ARE YOU ALL COMPENSATING THEM? THE SAME, SAY YOU OFFICERS MAKE 35,000 AND THEY'RE MAKING 60,000. ARE YOU BRINGING THEM HERE? MAKING 35,000 OR 60,000? NO IT GOES BY EXPERIENCE AND THAT WAS AGREEMENT BECAUSE WE'RE IN COLLECTIVE BARGAINING WITH THE F O P ON SWORN SO YOU CAN COME IN UP TO 10 YEARS OF YOUR EXPERIENCE AT OUR PAY SCALE. UM WE CAN'T GO TO SOMEBODY ELSE'S PAYSCALE BECAUSE THAT'S COLLECTIVE BARGAINING, AND WE HAD TO AGREE WITH THAT WITH THE PUPPY. SO WE COULD GO UP TO 10 YEARS. BUT IF YOU HAD FOUR YEARS EXPERIENCE THEN YOU WOULD COME IN AT FOUR YEARS EXPERIENCE ON OUR PAY SCALE. OKAY? OKAY, UM. WHAT'S THE PROTOCOL FOR DISCIPLINE AND WHO CONDUCT DISCIPLINE? ISN'T YOU YOUR MAJORS? NOW THIS ONE STARTS AT A LOWER THERE'S MULTIPLE WAYS DISCIPLINE CAN START EITHER FROM AN INVESTIGATION OR FROM A FROM DOWN TO THE SERGEANT LEVEL OF THE PROGRESSIVES TO ME, UM ON A TERMINATION LEVEL OR AGREEMENTS OR STEP TWO AGREEMENTS FROM THE DIRECTOR'S LEVEL, SO IT PROGRESSES. FROM THE LOW LEVEL. TO THE MAJOR. IF THEY GRIEVE IT, THEN THEY CAN GRIEVE IT TO ME WHEN I HEAR THAT STEP TWO AGREEMENTS OR THAT GRIEVANCE FOR IT NOW, TERMINATION WILL GO DIRECTLY TO ME. TERMINATE ALL TERMINATIONS OF CLEAR THERE.

WERE YOU CORRECT ONE IS TERMINATED UNLESS IT COMES THROUGH YOU. CORRECT OKAY. OKAY, UM. SO. DO YOU FOLLOW THE. REPRIMAND SUSPENSION TERMINATION. UM THAT IS DESIGNED FOR LOCAL METRO GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES, OR DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN FOR GENERAL DISCIPLINE NOW FOR EXTREME THIS ONE LIKE A EXTREME MATTER. UM WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT. NO, WE WON'T GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS, BUT FOR TIME AND ATTENDANCE AND THINGS LIKE THAT, THEN WE'LL GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS. SO SO FOR GENERAL DISCIPLINE, YOU FOLLOW L M G S. AH FORMAT. BUT YOU SAID FOR EXTREME YOU HAVE YOUR OWN. NO, NO. FOR SOME. IF YOU WANT TO GIVE ME EXAMPLE FOR INSTANCE, UM . WHAT I'M ASKING YOU IS DO YOU HAVE YOUR OWN SET OF RULES AND STANDARDS SPECIFICALLY FOR LMDC? YES. SHOULD YOU BE FOLLOWING SHOULD YOU CREATE AND FOLLOW YOUR OWN? OR SHOULD YOU BE FOLLOWING? L MGS? IT'S GENERALLY MIMIC SELLING JESUS. I'M NOT CORRECT PROCEDURE. THERE'S A SET OF LMDC POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE L MG POLICIES AND PROCEDURES VARIES DEPENDING ON IF YOU'RE WHICH CEIBA YOU FALL UNDER. IF YOU'RE A NONUNION EMPLOYEE AND WE ALWAYS CONSULT WITH METRO HR IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S BEFORE WE IMPLEMENT ANY DISCIPLINE THAT RESULTS IN A SUSPENSION OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. OR TERMINATION. ANYTHING ABOVE ANYTIME YOU ARE, SUSPEND, OR TERMINATE SOMEONE YOU CONSULT WITH AH ACCOUNT JOHNSON COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, THE ONLY THE ONLY EXCEPTION TO THAT IS A TIME AND ATTENDANCE AND THAT'S AN AGREEMENT THAT WE HAVE WITH METRO HR. IN THE COUNTY ATTORNEY. WE FOLLOW THE PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE FOR THOSE . OKAY, UM WHO OVERSEES YOUR PUBLIC STANDARD UNIT, AND, UM.

YOU'RE THE INVESTIGATE AND WHO DO THEY SHARE THEIR FINDINGS WITH THEY INVESTIGATE ANY ADMINISTRATIVE FINDINGS WITHIN AN APARTMENT. IF THERE'S SOMETHING VIOLENCE THE LAW THAN BP W B CURRENTLY, SERGEANT WOULD BE WHETHER THE ISSUE PROFESSIONAL STANDARDS UNIT OKAY? UM ANY HOSTILITY IN THE WORKPLACE. EXCUSE ME ANY HOSTILITY IN THE WORKPLACE? I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING. YOU HAVE ANY HOSTILE? EMPLOYEES OH, YEAH, OF COURSE. UM, YOU KNOW,

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CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE INCIDENT? BRIEFLY IF YOU WANT TO JUST BRIEFLY, WHAT HAPPENED AND SAID THINGS WHETHER IN CONTEXT OR OUT OF CONTACTS. NOW YOU'D HAVE TO TELL ME A SPECIFIC INCIDENT AND I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CASE. YOU DON'T KNOW ANY OF YOUR MAJORS HERE CAN INTERVIEW MAJORS HERE. SPEAK TO THAT. GOOD LUCK. YOU KNOW THAT SPECIFIC CASE. YEAH THE LAST ONE RESIGNED IN LIEU IN TERMINATION IN LIEU OF TERMINATION. UM BUT AGAIN, THAT'S THAT'S NOT TOLERATED. AND THERE'S ANY SPECIFIC CASES YOU'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. YOU KNOW, WE CAN TALK. IN PRIVATE, BUT I DON'T THINK ON CASES BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES, UM WHEN THERE IS TERMINATION OR DETERMINATION, THEN THAT'S GOING TO BE ON GOING TO ARBITRATION AND POSSIBLY WHAT ACTION SO WE CAN SPEAK. I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK. WELL, THAT'S FINE. I SAID. YOU DIDN'T HAVE TO IDENTIFY THE PERSON OR PERSONS INVOLVED IF HE COULD JUST SPEAK ON THE INCIDENT. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT THAT PERSON THAT USE THAT DEROGATORY TERM IS NO LONGER EMPLOYED BY LMDC? CORRECT? OKAY ALL RIGHT, UM. CAN WE DISCUSS SECONDHAND KNOWLEDGE OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT? YES. IF YOU WILL, WITH OUR POLICY AND OUR TURNING IF YOU KNOW OF SEXUAL HARASSMENT AS AN EMPLOYEE LMDC, THEN YOU'RE REQUIRED TO REPORT IS THAT YOUR POLICY OR L M G S POLICY POLICY THAT WE ADOPTED THAT WE DIDN'T NEED RIGHT. WE GO WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY THAT WROTE THE SEXUAL HARASSMENT WE CAME IN. WE HAD A SEXUAL HARASSMENT PROBLEM AND WE HAD ADDRESSED IT. WE HAD TO BE FIRM ON IT, SO THERE WAS A ZERO TOLERANCE FOR SEXUAL HARASSMENT SO PART OF THE POLICY WITHIN THAT AND WHEN I WHEN I CAN SPEAK A LITTLE BIT MORE SPECIFIC, BECAUSE SHE DOES THE TRAINING IS THE REQUIREMENT TO REPORT SEXUAL HARASSMENT. IF YOU'RE WITNESSING IT OR ACKNOWLEDGE OF IT. SO IF MAJOR, A. OFFENDED SOME OFFENDED UH, OFFICER B. SEXUALLY AND OFFICER V. C. MAY HAVE HEARD IT MAY NOT HAVE ACTUALLY WITNESSED IT. BUT HEARD ABOUT IT IS OFFICER SEE RESPONSIBLE FOR COMING. FORWARD AND TELL HIM HIS SUPERIORS WHAT HE THINKS TOOK PLACE OF WHAT HE HEARD TOOK PLACE IF IT WAS FROM A DIRECT KNOWLEDGE OF THE PERSON THAT HAD HAPPENED TO, YES, UM, BUT MM HMM . WE CAN HYPOTHETICAL ALL DAY.

EACH CASE WILL BE DIFFERENT. BUT IF YOU HAD DIRECT KNOWLEDGE FROM THE PERSON WHO WAS EITHER HARASSED OR YOU WITNESSED IT, YES, YOU'RE REQUIRED TO COME FORWARD SO THAT IF THAT IF OFFICER C DOESN'T COME FORWARD WHAT? WHAT WHAT ARE THE REPERCUSSIONS FOR OFFICERS SEE? DISCIPLINARY ACTION. TO INCLUDE . I'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU'RE ASKING TO INCLUDE YOU SAID DISCIPLINE ACTIONS. OUR POLICY IS RELATIVELY NEW ON THAT HOW LONG IT'S BEEN FIRST IS WHEN WE IMPLEMENTED ONLY HAD ONE CASE WHERE THAT'S HAPPENED SO FAR, AND THAT'S BEEN SUSPENSION FOR A DAY. SO THEY'RE NEVER TERMINATED IF THEY DON'T COME FORWARD. HMM NO, THAT'S NOT HAPPENING. WE'VE ONLY HAD ONE AND IT WAS VERY RECENT. UM THAT DIDN'T REPORT A SECONDHAND OR HAD KNOWLEDGE OF IT. AND THAT WAS DISCIPLINED WITH THE RECOMMENDATION OF ONE DAY, AND THAT'S THE FIRST STEP THAT COULD APPEAL THAT THAT COULD BE REDUCED. UM BUT WE'RE TRYING TO ENCOURAGE HIS ZERO TOLERANCE IN THE WORKPLACE, AND THAT'S NOT A, UM, THE PLACE WHERE THAT SHOULD HAPPEN. BUT I'M EXCUSE ME. UM THIS IS NOT GERMANE TO OUR CONVERSATION. WHAT WAS ON THE AGENDA? I MEAN, IF WE WANT TO ASK THEM TO COME BACK, ABSOLUTELY IS ABSOLUTELY RETENTION, RIGHT? THIS IS IMPORTANT. THESE THINGS ARE BROUGHT OUT. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL POLICIES ARE SET IN PLACE, AND EVERYONE HAS BEEN TREATED FAIRLY TO RETAIN EMPLOYEES BECAUSE THIS IS A VERY, VERY DELICATE ENVIRONMENT. YOU KNOW THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE BEFORE

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IF I YOU KNOW, I HEAR SOMETHING THAT'S THAT'S NOT TRUE, BECAUSE I THAT'S UM, DETRIMENTAL TO THE AGENCY. AND I THINK THAT I CANNOT BOARD ACCOUNTABILITY IS VERY IMPORTANT. MHM UM I THINK COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. SHE JUST TEXTED CUTE. YEAH THANK YOU. I'M DONE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I WAS, UM UM, CONTACTED BACK, COUNCILMAN, UM ARTHUR ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS THAT YOU'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT, TOWARDS THE END, AND, UM , YOU KNOW, IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT WE HAVE ANOTHER MEETING. THAT WAS WHERE I WAS GOING TO COVER THOSE THINGS. UM, TO BE FAIR TO DIRECTOR COLLINS, HOPEFULLY COUNCILMAN AUTHORS ON THE MEETING OR WE'LL GO BACK AND REVIEW THIS MEETING, HOPEFULLY COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS. YEAH. COUNCILWOMAN HAWKINS THAT CAN HERE. OKAY THIS IS DEFINITELY ACCOUNTABILITY. RIGHT SO. SO, HOW DID YOU KNOW I'M STILL FAIRLY? CAN YOU HEAR ME? NO. LET'S GO ON IN AND OUT ON THE WAY YOU'RE GOING. YOU'RE GOING IN AND OUT. UM, COUNCILWOMAN THAT YOU CAN YOU IMAGINE HIM? YES OKAY, SO THIS IS GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, I'M FAIRLY NEW. ACTUALLY THIS IS MY FIRST GOVERNMENT.

ACCOUNTABILITY. UM MM. COMMITTING MEETING SO THE DEPARTMENT HEADS ARE ABLE TO BE CALLED IN IF COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE A QUESTIONS, RIGHT? UM SO I'M NOT. I'M ASKING THIS QUESTION TO KNOW SHOULD I SHOULD SHOULD WE SHOULD THEY BE BROUGHT BACK WITH WAS CANCELED. WOMAN CAN'T SEE YOU. OKAY BUT YOU CAN HEAR ME, RIGHT? YEAH, BUT BUT THAT THE BATTLE LONG WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE YOU. YOU DO YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SEE ME. YES, MA'AM. SORRY. CAN YOU SEE ME NOW? YES, MA'AM. OKAY. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, MA'AM. OKAY ALL RIGHT. SO THIS IS GOVERNMENT ACCOUNTABILITY. SO UM, WE CAN BRING HEAD DEPARTMENT SEEM TO TRY TO SEE ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE DEPARTMENTS, RIGHT? SO DONALD, I'M NOT MISTAKEN. HE HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON IN LSD SCENE. THAT'S WHY THEY WERE CALLED OVER SOJA QUARRY IS. IS HE GOING TO CALL THEM BACK? OR CAN WE CONTINUE TO ASK QUESTIONS? BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW. UM IT'S THE MAN NOR IT EASE UP. YOU KNOW, COLLINS, DO YOU FEEL LIKE THAT? THE MONASTIC MINORITIES ARE GETTING THE SAME EXACT TRAINING. UM AS ALL THE OTHER EMPLOYEE. DID YOU DIFFERENCE? OR DID YOU FEEL LIKE THAT? THEY'RE GETTING EQUAL OPPORTUNITIES THERE AS FAR AS TRAINING AND ADVANCEMENT. CAN YOU SPEAK TO THAT? DID YOU ASK ME THAT? ARE THEY GETTING THE SAME TRAINING? YES, THE SAME YOU

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FROM THAT PERSON'S STANDPOINT, THAT'S WHY WE'RE CREATING WOMEN DEVELOPMENT GROUP AND, UM, ENCOURAGING MINORITIES TO TAKE THE TEST AND MOVE UP, UM, TO GO ACROSS THE BOARD. AGAIN THE FIRST STEP IS ENCOURAGING FOLKS TO TAKE THAT FIRST STEP AND START TAKING TESTS AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE DONE. SO. WITH ONLY 11 OFFICERS PERFECT FROM THE SECOND THING, THIS CITY YOU'RE CUTTING OUT AGAIN. UM, COUNCILWOMAN THIS PAST SATURDAY NIGHT. UM, WHAT WAS DONE? UH, OKAY, YOU HEAR ME? NOW CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, I AM. OK SO, UM, WITH ONLY 11 OFFICERS FROM THE SECOND TO THE SIXTH FLOOR THIS PAST SATURDAY NIGHT WHAT WAS DONE BY COMMAND STAFF TO ENSURE OFFICER SAFETY FIRST AND INMATES SET SAFETY SECOND AGAIN THAT YEAH, I WAS NOTIFIED SUNDAY . ACTUALLY MY MAJOR WAS NOTIFIED AND CAME IN. UM AND WE ALSO HAVE WHEN YOU SAY 11 OFFICERS.

THERE'S ALSO, UM SERGEANTS AND LIEUTENANTS. THEY'RE WORKING. UM AND YOU KNOW, WE CANNOT. I CANNOT ANTICIPATE IF THERE'S NON SICKLES. ON A NIGHT. THE FULLY SCHEDULED FOR THE STAFF. SO IF SOMEONE REFUSES A FORCE, AND WE HAVE NINE SICKLES UM, THAT'S VERY DIFFICULT. SO THE MAJOR CAME IN ASSISTED THE SAFETY ACTUALLY STAYED IN, WALKED THE FLOORS WITH THE LIEUTENANT'S SO YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES IT'S JUST YOU KNOW WHAT TOUGH SITUATION TO BE IN? UM AND THAT'S WHY ACCOUNTABILITY IS IMPORTANT. GOING BACK TO THE COUNCIL. UM PURPOSES POINT IS HOLDING FOLKS ACCOUNTABLE. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ACCOUNTABILITY ON FOLKS, UM, WITH INCREDIBLY BAD SICK TIME.

UM WITH REFUSING, UM, MANDATORY OVERTIME TWICE A WEEK, SO THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT ON ACCOUNTABILITY TO INCREASE THAT THE STABBING LEVEL FOR SATURDAY WAS SCHEDULED, AND IT WAS RIGHT. UM SO YOU KNOW, THAT'S SOME OF THE SITUATIONS WHEN YOU RUN INTO UM OKAY, SO. WHAT ARE THE PROTOCOLS ? UM I THINK I TOUCHED ON THIS BEFORE WE SPOKE TO THIS BEFORE. UM THIS IS JUST SORT OF A COUPLE OF THINGS. YOU CAN JUST ANSWER IT ALL THE 11 OF THE PROTOCOLS FOR AN OVERDOSE. AND HOW DO YOU REPORT AND DOCUMENT THE OVERDOSES AND WHAT TAKES PLACE AFTER AN OVERDOSE SEARCHED THE DORM TO BE USED. CHINA AND THERE'S THE CANINES USED AFTER EACH INCIDENT UNTIL THEY DOCUMENT EACH INCIDENT AND JUNE THEY DOCUMENT WHAT THEY HAD FOUND. IN WITH IT, WHICH AGE CITY? YES THERE'S A WHOLE PROTOCOL WE DEVELOPED JUST FOR THAT WHICH INCLUDES AND I CAN SEND IT TO YOU, UM, NOTIFYING CANINE. OBVIOUSLY, YOU GOTTA SECURE THE EVENT FIRST NOTIFYING CANINE, UM, SEARCHING THE DORM, NOTIFYING INTEL'S IMMEDIATELY START SEEING WHERE IT CAME IN AT , UM IT'S A WHOLE LIST AND THAT HAPPENS EVERY TIME. YES, IT'S DOCUMENTED. WHAT WAS, UM FOUND IF ANYTHING IS DOCUMENTED IF THE CANINES HIT ON ANYTHING IS DOCUMENTED, BUT IT'S A HOPELESS PROTOCOLS THAT, UM I CAN SEND YOU GUYS THAT IS LITERALLY. DONE EVERY TIME. OKAY SO WHAT PROCEDURES ARE IN PLACE TO PREVENT IT? EMPLOYEES WORN AND UNFORMED FROM BRINGING IN DRUGS AND CONTRIBUTING. AGAIN YOU WON'T GO INTO THE INTELLIGENCE PART OF IT, BUT YOU HAVE TO COME THROUGH. BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT YOU KNOW, WE HAVE ONE INJURY. UM BUT WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT IS IN A SMALLER THAN A THIMBLE THAT CAN KILL YOU. IT'S VERY HARD.

YOU'RE NOT. WE'RE NOT STRIP SEARCHING EMPLOYEES WHEN THEY COME IN. WE DO HAVE CANINES THAT GO TO THE TO FROM BOBBY, WHERE FOLKS COME IN, BUT A LOT OF TIMES SAY, FOR INSTANCE, UM AND YOU'RE TALKING SPECIFICALLY ABOUT EMPLOYEES CORRECT? YEAH MM HMM. WHEN THEY BRING THE COUNTRY BEING IN AND SO AGAIN, I WON'T GO INTO OUR INTEL MORE. WE TRACK AND HOW WE DO THAT, UM BUT THERE

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OKAY SO YOU DO SO THERE'S A PROCESS IN PLACE. SO WHAT HAPPENED IF THERE HAD HAVE BEEN A BACKUP CALL ON ANOTHER FOUR? AND WHAT HAPPENS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. OKAY SO WE'RE ALREADY SHORT STATURED . SO YOU FIND OF DRUGS IN A IN A SALE, SO? SO WHAT HAPPENS? UM IF YOU HAVE ANOTHER INCIDENT ON ANOTHER FLOOR YOU RESPOND TO IT ACCORDINGLY. YOU THE PERSON IN COMMAND ASSISTANCE, WHICH INCIDENT IS, UM BORN AND THEN YOU GET TO IT. YOU'RE DOING HYPOTHETICALS THAT THE SAY, FOR INSTANCE, UM, WE YOU HAD A POTENTIAL OVERDOSE AND WE OBVIOUSLY WE DEAL WITH THAT PERSON. YOU HAD A FIGHT. THERE'S OTHER OFFICERS WORKING THOSE WINGS. YOU PULL PEOPLE FROM AREAS SUCH AS THE BOOKING FLOOR BECAUSE WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SATURDAY NIGHT WAS UM JUSTIN, FLOOR SECURITY. WE HAVE OFFICERS AND PERSONNEL WORKING ALL OVER THE BUILDING. SO YOU PULL THOSE PERSONNEL TO WHERE THE BIGGEST EMERGENCY IS FOR THE NEXT EMERGENCY. FROM THAT, SO I THINK YOU'VE BEEN GIVEN A LITTLE BIT ABOUT INFORMATION. UM I'M NOT. I HAVE BEEN GIVEN OKAY? EVERYTHING THAT I'M ASKING, IF NOT POTATOES SATURDAY. IS THAT WHAT. IT'S JUST THAT ONE QUESTION WAS PREDOMINANTLY THINGS THAT I'M ASKING. THE ONLY IS JUST IN GENERAL JUST IN GENERAL QUESTIONS. UM AND I'M ASKING HIM THERE WAS A OVERDOSE INCIDENT, UM, ON ONE FLOOR BECAUSE OVERDOSE. THEY HAVE THE SAME. UH WHY WERE YOU SO IF YOU ARE REALLY SHORT SAYS, WHAT IS THE PROTOCOL IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN PLACE UM OR WHAT IS YOUR BACKGROUND? HMM YOU'RE KIND OF GOING IN AND OUT, BUT YOU'RE GOING OUT AGAIN. NORMAN URGENCIES? YES, WE DO HAVE PROTOCOLS IN PLACE FOR ANOTHER ONE. THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING.

WAIT GOING ON ONE CANCER WOMAN YOU'RE CUTTING OUT AGAIN. HONEY, I'M SORRY ABOUT SATURDAY. I WAS JUST TELLING HIM THAT IT EVER EVERYTHING THAT I WAS JUST ASKING. IT WASN'T PREDOMINANTLY JUST ABOUT SATURDAY. I WAS JUST WANTING TO KNOW, YOU KNOW, CALL PROTOCOLS IN PLACE FOR EMERGENCIES ALL OVER THERE, OBVIOUSLY IN JAILS AND LITTLE MINI CITY. SO, UM BUT IT WOULDN'T BE THE FIRST MULTIPLE EMERGENCIES AT ONE TIME THAT I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, BUT HAVING PROTOCOL AND HAVE UNTIL EVENTS AND ALREADY BEING SHORT STAFFED IS WHAT I WAS ASKING.

RIGHT AND TO THE POINT I WAS TELLING YOU THAT GENERALLY WERE NOT SHORT STAFFED. WE ARE MANNING THE FLOORS IN A RARE CASE, LIKE, UM SATURDAY NIGHT, AND THAT'S YOU'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT FLOOR SECURITY. THERE'S OFFICERS FROM A LOT MORE OFFICERS. IT'S NOT JUST ENFORCE SECURITY THAT CAN BE USED TO RESPOND TO EMERGENCIES ALSO I THINK WE HAVE HAVE LOST COUNCIL.

SO WOULDN'T THAT LEAVE ANY OTHER OFFICERS IN DANGER? IF YOU ALREADY SHORT STAFFED INCIDENTS GOING ON AT THE AT THE SAME TIME. I AM OF YOUR FULLY STABBED AND THERE'S TWO INCIDENTS OR THREE INCIDENTS GOING ON. AT THE SAME TIME, THERE WILL BE TOWNS WHERE FOLKS ARE OFF THEIR ASSIGNED AREAS, BUT THEY'RE STILL CONTROLLING OFFICERS THAT ARE WATCHING IN THAT AREA IN THAT, SO I THINK YOU HAVE TO HAVE A POOR CONCEPT AND WHERE EVERYONE IS WHEN YOU SAY 11 OFFICERS THAT'S NOT COMPLETELY ACCURATE. YOU GUYS SERGEANTS CONTROL ROOM OFFICERS MAIN CONTROL THAT ARE WATCHING AREAS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY PEOPLE RESPOND TO IF YOU HAD AN EMERGENCY RIGHT NOW ON THE SIXTH FLOOR. UM WHERE IT WAS A LARGE EMERGENCY. THE OFFICERS WOULD BE RESPONDING FROM OTHER AREAS OF THE JAIL AND THOSE AREAS WILL BE TEMPORARILY LEFT SHORT. BUT THOSE ARE THOSE AREAS ARE BEING MONITORED. AND I'M NOT JUST ASKING JUST FOR YOU KNOW THE SAFETY OF OTHER OFFICERS. I'M ALSO ASKING FOR THE SAFETY FOR THE INMATES THAT OUR HANDS ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING. UM ABSOLUTELY , THAT'S WHAT YOU ALWAYS HAVE TO THINK ABOUT, BUT I'M ASKING FOR BOTH PARTS. YEAH NO, I COMPLETELY THINK ABOUT BOTH PARTS WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT, BUT, YEAH, LIKE I SAID, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, YOU'RE GONNA BE LEFT SHORT. UM BUT WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP YOU FIX THAT. WELL THERE'S NOTHING YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO DO TO HELP ME FIX THAT. WE CAN BE FULLY STABBED AND IF THERE'S EMERGENCIES WE HAVE BEEN JOINED A LITTLE BIT AGO. UM, COUNCILMAN BAKER. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE,

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DEFINITELY LIKE TO CALL THEM BACK IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS. OKAY IF YOU WILL, YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW BY EMAIL. UM YOU KNOW, OR COUNCILMAN ARTHUR? WHOEVER YOU KNOW, LET ME KNOW SO THAT I CAN GET IT ON THE SCHEDULE. OKAY? YES THANK YOU SO MUCH COUNSELING THE FALLON. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S SEE. WE HAVE GOT. CAN'T COUNCILMAN UM RASHAD? I SEE YOU'RE NOT DRIVING ANYMORE, RIGHT? THAT'S RIGHT. THAT'S RIGHT. SO YOU KNOW, MULTITASKING . I GOTTA DO BE MORE, UH, DECIPHER ON THIS TYPE OF THING, BUT I'M GONNA START IN PLACE RIGHT NOW, BUT I WAS LISTENING TO A WHOLE LOT OF EVERYTHING. AND UH, YOU KNOW, I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY, YOU KNOW WE ARE ALL IN THIS TOGETHER. YOU KNOW, I'M HEARING A LOT OF. TO WHAT I FEEL LIKE JUST SIMPLE QUESTIONS. UM SO I JUST WANT TO JUST REMIND US A STEP FORWARD. BUT AT THE SAME TIME I'M GOING TO ASK, UH UM, THE GOOD OFFICER. WHAT MEASURES HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO MAKE, UH UH THEN A BETTER WORKPLACE ENVIRONMENT. YOU KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN DONE TO IMPROVE THE CULTURE THAT PLACE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW ANY TYPE OF ENVIRONMENT TO WORK IN. THE NINE PEOPLE ARE CALLING IN. THAT'S BECAUSE THEY CAN'T STAND THEIR BOSSES REALLY CAN'T STAND THEIR BOSSES. SO THE BOSS HAS GOT TO DO SOMETHING BETTER TO REALLY GET GET INVOLVED IN THE CULTURE AND REALLY UPLIFTED. THAT PLACE . SO WHAT MEASURES HAVE BEEN TAKEN TO IMPROVE THE CULTURE THAT WORK AND LEARN? WELL, I THINK THERE'S A MULTI PLASTIC QUESTION AND I CAN ADDRESS IT ON SEVERAL LEVELS. ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO COME BACK IS BRING THE PROFESSIONALISM BACK BEING PROUD, AND THE OTHER THING IS WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER IS THE ACCOUNTABILITY. YOU KNOW, THE GOOD OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES WANT TO SEE PEOPLE BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE. SO YOU KNOW, ADDRESSING IT IS HUGE. THE OTHER ONE IS THE INTERIOR WORKPLACE. OBVIOUSLY, WE KNOW ABOUT THE FACILITY. BUT ALSO TRYING TO IMPROVE THE OPPOSITE WORKSTATIONS, IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE, GIVING THEM OPTIONS. UM ABOUT WHEN THEY'RE THEY'RE WORKING OVERTIME. UM BUT THE END OF THE DAY, YOU KNOW, CULTURE CHANGE, YOU KNOW, USUALLY TAKES 4 TO 6 YEARS AND WE'RE TRYING TO PUT THAT ON SPEED. ONE OF THE THINGS WE DID WITH THAT WAS REBRANDED, GIVING OFFICERS THE EQUIPMENT THEY NEED RETURNING OUR VEHICLES RE BURNING OUT APARTMENT, GIVING THEM VEST, GIVING THEM A RADIO HAS GIVEN THEM CHANGE PLAYERS AND THEN HOLDING THE MECHANICALS LIKE WE'RE GONNA YOU KNOW WHERE NEGOTIATED RIGHT NOW? WE'RE GONNA PAY PROFESSIONALLY, BUT WE DON'T EXPECT PROFESSIONALISM FROM THAT, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE FOLKS THERE ONE SPEAKING OF JORDI OF WHAT THE FOLKS ONE THAT LEADS ME TO THE QUESTION. HOW DO WE KNOW WHAT THE FOLKS WANT? I MEAN, ARE THEY PUTTING IN HOW THEY HAVING INPUT ON EVERYONE FROM THE GROUND LEVEL ALL THE WAY UP TO THE TOP? ARE THEY HAVING INPUT ON THE THINGS THAT THEY KNOW COULD BETTER THEIR CULTURE AND IF THEY ARE, WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE THINGS THAT THEY'RE ACTUALLY SAYING, OR IF THEY ARE SAYING WHAT YOU SAID THAT THEY'RE SAYING? HOW DO WE KNOW? WELL, I THINK YOU SWITCHED ON ME. I THINK HE WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES FIRST. AND THEN I KNOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PUBLIC CORRECT. NO I WAS TALKING ABOUT THE EMPLOYEES STRICTLY YEAH. YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT WE ASKED THEM AND WORKING WITH THE UNION AND GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK ON THAT. AND YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE SAY IS THE BEST IDEA WINS IS SOMETHING MAKES SENSE. THEN WE'RE GOING TO DO IT, BUT SOMETHING WE CAN ADJUST. WITHOUT SUFFERING OPERATIONS. THAT'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. UM YOU KNOW WHAT I'M ASKING. LIKE, WHAT MECHANISM WHILE WE'RE USING TO GET THIS FEEDBACK BECAUSE, YOU KNOW FEEDBACK TO COME THROUGH SURVEYS SOMETHING ONLINE. TALK ONE ON ONE CONVERSATIONS. HOW ARE WE GETTING THIS FEEDBACK BECAUSE THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AND

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[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]