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GOOD AFTERNOON. THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.SCOTT REEDER, VICE CHAIR. IT IS. JULY, THE 18TH 2023 REGULAR CHAIRMAN, BRENT AKERSON HAS AN EXCUSED ABSENCE. WE HAVE IN CHAMBERS, UM, COUNCIL PERSON. MCDONOUGH FLOOD. WE HAVE
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VIRTUALLY COUNCILMAN JEFF HUDSON , COUNCILMAN ANDREW OWEN AND COUNCILMAN DAN SYME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO READ THE DISCLAIMER? PLEASE. THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO KRS 61.826 IN COUNTABLE, RED AND FULL. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. UH WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF ITEMS HERE. THE FIRST[Pending Legislation]
ITEM IS A RESOLUTION DETERMINING A PORTION OF REAL PROPERTY LOCATED AT 7 20, WEST JEFFERSON STREET TRACK ONE OF A CERTAIN PLOT AS SURPLUS AND NOT NEEDED FOR GOVERNMENTAL PURPOSES OF METRO GOVERNMENT AND AUTHORIZING ITS TRANSFER. DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? NO. I BELIEVE THAT WAS COUNCILMAN HUDSON MOVING AND COUNCILWOMAN FLOOD THE SICKENING AND WE HAVE HERE IN CHAMBERS, DEPUTY MAYORS DANA MAIDEN AND DAVID JAMES THAT WILL SPEAK TO THIS. DEPUTY MAYOR DAVID JAMES.LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THANK YOU . THANK YOU, MR CHAIR. UH DAVID JAMES, DEPUTY MAYOR, EMERGENCY SERVICES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY, MR CHAIR. THIS IS TO THAT PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT YOU JUST THE CLERK JUST READ IS ACTUALLY THE OLD YOUTH DETENTION CENTER. AND AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH THE STATE IN ORDER FOR THE STATE TO TAKE OVER YOUTH DETENTION. HERE IN JEFFERSON COUNTY. AND AS PART OF THAT UM, WE NEED TO TRANSFER. WE NEED TO SURPLUS THE PROPERTIES THAT IT CAN BE TRANSFERRED INTO THE STATE ITS HANDS SO THEY CAN DO WORK ON THAT BUILDING AND GET IT READY TO RECEIVE YOUTHFUL OFFENDERS AT THAT LOCATION, AND WE NEED THE ASKING FOR THE METRO COUNCIL'S APPROVAL IN ORDER TO DO SO. OKAY? UM I HAVE A QUESTION JUST IN A BEST CASE SCENARIO. IF EVERYTHING GOES AS PLANNED, AND I'M SURE IT WON'T, BUT IF IT DOES WHAT'S THE TIMELINE INVOLVED IN THIS? UM I WOULD. I WOULD GIVE IT TWO YEARS . UM TO TRY TO GET THIS TO ALL DONE. THERE'S SOME WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THE STATE JUST RECENTLY PUT OUT AN R P FOR CONTRACTOR ONCE THAT CONTRACTORS SELECTED THEN THEY WILL EXAMINE THE BUILDING AND DETERMINE THE BUILDING PLANS, WHICH THEY NEED TO DO. UM SO I WOULD SAY, UM WITHIN TWO YEARS FROM THE BEGINNING OF THIS YEAR, OKAY? HOPEFULLY. KNOCKING WOULD DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? THAT'S SEEING ANYONE IN THE QUEUE. THIS IS A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR A VOICE BOAT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. I UH, PROPOSED. NO ONE OPPOSED THIS PASSES AND WE'LL GO TO CONCERN. CONSIDER IN THE NEXT COUNTY COUNCIL MEETING. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. MR CHAIR. TAKE CARE. NEXT IS ITEM NUMBER TWO, WHICH IS AN ORDINANCE 0-153 DASH 23 IN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER 72 OF THE LOUISVILLE METRO CODE OF ORDINANCES RELATING TO METRO GOVERNMENT TOLD AUTHORITIES AND FEES, STORE TEA AND FEES. DO I HAVE A MOTION? SO MOVED SO MOVED BY COUNCILMAN OWEN. YOU HAVE A SECOND. 2ND 2ND BY COUNCILMAN HUDSON AND WITH US WE HAVE HIGH WE HAVE OLYMPIA, MAJOR EMILY
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MCKINLEY AND LIEUTENANT ARMAND WHITE TO SPEAK. TO SPEAK TO THIS SO FLOOR IS YOURS. UM ACTUALLY, THAT I AM DEPUTY GENERAL COUNSEL MEGAN METCALF. I WORKED FOR MAYOR GREENBERG AND I HAVE WITH ME. SERGEANT BATES. UM, I GOT IT WRONG BOTH TIMES. SORRY. ASSISTANT U WOULD YOU INTRODUCE YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD, PLEASE? ASSISTANT CHIEF RAMPAGE WITH OKAY. UM AND JUST TO LET YOU KNOW, SO THIS IS AN UPDATE TO AN EXISTING TOLA ORDINANCE THAT, UM , PROVIDES SEVERAL UPDATES THAT WE NEEDED, THE FIRST OF WHICH WAS TO REFLECT THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT OF THE TOE. LOTS ORIGINALLY THAT WAS UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS AND PARK SEVERAL YEARS AGO THAT SHIFTED TO L N P D BECAUSE THEY USED THE IMPOUND LOTS FOR A NUMBER OF THEIR PURPOSES. UM, THIS MAKES CHANGES THAT WOULD JUST DIRECT PUT THESE UNDER THE DIRECTION OF GLOBAL METRO GOVERNMENT. IN IN GENERAL. SO IF THERE WAS ANY CHANGE IN THE ADMINISTRATION THAT THEY WANTED TO PLACE IT UNDER A DIFFERENT AGENCY OF GLOBAL METRO GOVERNMENT, THEY WOULDN'T REQUIRE AN ADDITIONAL ORDINANCE CHANGE. UM THE SECOND MOST IMPORTANT CHANGE HERE IS, UM, UPDATES TO THE STRUCTURE OF THE BOTH THE TOWING AND THE STORAGE FEES FOR ONCE VEHICLES HAVE BEEN IMPOUNDED. UM LOUISVILLE METRO GOVERNMENT, UH, IS CURRENTLY SETTLING A CLASS ACTION BECAUSE OF THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE WE IMPROPERLY RAISED FEES THAT WASN'T IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE PRIOR ORDINANCE. THIS WOULD RAISE THE FEES WHILE STILL BEING , UH, CONSISTENT WITH WHAT ARE SISTER CITIES ARE CHARGING FOR BOTH IMPOUNDING IN FOR STORAGE. IT SETS IT AT A LEVEL THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO KEEP THESE FEES STABLE FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS WOULDN'T REQUIRE US TO RAISE THEM TO KEEP UP WITH LABOR AND OTHER COSTS. UM AND ALSO, YOU KNOW, JUST ALLOWS US THE FLEXIBILITY TO STARTED A NEW WITHOUT ADDING TO THIS, THE CLASS OF FOLKS WHO COULD BE PARTY TO THE CLASS ACTION, WHICH WE HAVE SETTLED NOW THERE'S ACTUALLY A FAIRNESS HEARING IN FRONT OF THE FEDERAL COURT TOMORROW MORNING TO FINALIZE THAT SETTLEMENT. OKAY? WELL WHEN YOU SAY SISTER CITIES GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE, YES. SO WE HAVE A NUMBER OF THEM. SO NASHVILLE, UM , THEY CHARGE AT $225 FLAT FOR A TOWING FEE. THEY CHARGE $55 PER DAY. UM AS A STORAGE RATE. IT'S TWO HOURS FREE AND THEN $35 PER PER DAY THEREAFTER, UM, ST LOUIS CHARGES $100 PLUS $80 AN HOUR PER HOUR FOR TOWING FEES. SO IT'S $100 FOR THE JUST THE FACT THAT YOU ARE HAVING THAT VEHICLE TOWED PLUS 80 PER HOUR. THEIR STORAGE RATE IS 25. INDIANAPOLIS IS 100 AND $50 PER DAY, WHICH IS WHAT WE WOULD BE RAISING OUR TOWING FEET TO $150 PER HOUR. THEIR STORAGE RATE IS $25 PER DAY. CINCINNATI IS $190 FOR A TOWING FEE. UM IT'S $25 FOR A STORAGE FEE, BUT THEY AFTER FIVE DAYS, THEY RAISED THAT TO $75 PER DAY. UM UH, KNOXVILLE IS $234 AS A FLAT RATE TOWING. THEY HAVE ONE FREE DAY AND THEN $30 PER DAY STORAGE. MEMPHIS IS 100 AND $25 TOWING CHARGE AND $30 PER DAY STORAGE. UM SO AS YOU CAN SEE THE FEES THAT WE HAVE, UM UPDATED. AH IT'S 100 AND $50 PER HOUR OR FRACTION OF THE HOUR. FOR TOWING, AND, UM WE USED TO HAVE A STRUCTURE THAT IT WAS $10 PER DAY FOR STORAGE AND THEN $5 AFTER THE FIRST SEVEN . THAT WAS PART OF THE PROBLEM THAT WE ENCOUNTERED WHEN THEY IMPROPERLY RAISED THE FEES IS THAT THEY DIDN'T TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THAT BIFURCATED THE STRUCTURE FOR THE STORAGE FEES. THIS WOULD JUST RAISE IT TO A FLAT $30 PER DAY. NO MATTER HOW MANY DAYS THAT THEY ARE IN THE LOT. SO WHAT IS THE GOAL OF FEES . ARE WE TRYING TO JUST SIMPLY COVER COSTS? ARE WE TRYING TO PUTTING IT IN BUSINESS TERMS.[00:15:01]
MAKE A PROFIT MARGIN. WE CERTAINLY AREN'T TRYING TO MAKE A PROFIT ON THIS. THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THIS SERVICE FOR BOTH THE L NPD RECORDS AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE CONTRACT RECORDS. THESE FEES DON'T GO DIRECTLY TO THE CONTRACT RECORDS. UM IT GOES INTO THE GENERAL FUND, SO IT IS A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET. BUT WE ARE TRYING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH BOTH WHAT EXISTING RATES ARE BUT ARE INCREASED LABOR COSTS ARE AND, UM WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE ADEQUATELY LIKE SPENDING METRO RESOURCES AND THAT FOLKS AREN'T GETTING A SERVICE FOR LESS THAN WHAT IT ACTUALLY COSTS US. UM FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE EQUITY CONCERNS OR CONCERNS THAT FOLKS WON'T BE ABLE TO GET THEIR FEES OUT OF THE IMPOUND LIKE WE DO HAVE THAT AMNESTY ORDINANCE AND YOU PUBLIC WORKS, WHICH HAS THE AUTHORITY TO DECLARE AMNESTY INTENDS TO REGULARLY USE IT PERIODICALLY THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. ARE THERE ANY LABOR ISSUES NOW WITH HAVING CARS? IMPOUNDED. BRILLIANT FIVE VACANCIES. AS FAR AS RICHARD TRAVERS GONE AND TWO VACANCIES A LOT OF TENANTS CONTINUALLY POSTING TRYING TO HIRE AN INTERVIEW. THE PROCESS, OKAY? UM, DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M NOT SEEING ANYBODY IN ACUTENESS AND NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS TECHNOLOGY. COULD I ASK A QUESTION? YES, COSMONAUT, ONE. UM SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE I HEARD YOU PRACTICE SO WE STILL HAVE AN ACTIVE, ONGOING CLASS ACTION LAWSUITS THAT HAS NOT BEEN SETTLED. IS THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY? NO, IT HAS BEEN SETTLED , SO WE CAME TO A PRELIMINARY SETTLEMENT FOR $1.5 MILLION. THAT CLASS WAS FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAD THEIR VEHICLES. UM TOTAL IMPOUNDED AFTER. UM I CAN GIVE YOU THE DATE, BUT IT WAS A DATE IN, UH 2008 FEBRUARY 2ND 2008 WHO ARE CHARGED MORE THAN $10 A DAY FOR THE FIRST SEVEN DAYS AND $5 A DAY FOR ANY DAY THEREAFTER , THE LAST STEP IN THE PROCESS OF FEDERAL CLASS ACTION LIKE THIS IS A HEARING IN FRONT OF A FEDERAL JUDGE WHO UH, JUST IS TRYING TO ENSURE THAT THE SETTLEMENT IS FAIR TO ALL CLASS MEMBERS. SO UM, OUR REPRESENTATIVES WILL BE IN FEDERAL COURT TOMORROW, JUST WITH WITH ALL THE PARTIES TO ENSURE THAT THIS IS A FAIR SETTLEMENT. SO THE THING THAT HAPPENS IT'S HAPPENING. TOMORROW IS THE FINAL STEP IN THAT PROCESS. AND I'M ASSUMING THAT WE HAVE THAT THE NEW RATE STRUCTURE THAT WE'RE PROPOSING HAS BEEN CLEARED AS BEING CONSTITUTIONAL AND NOT INTERFERING ON ANYBODY'S LEGAL RIGHTS AND WHERE MOVING FORWARD KNOWING THAT THIS TIME YES. SO UM, THE GOOD THING ABOUT PASSING THIS ORDINANCE IS IT RESETS EVERYTHING SO THAT IT IS REASONABLE UNDER THE KENTUCKY STATE STATUTE THAT AUTHORIZES US TO DO THIS. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REASONABLE BASED ON WHAT COMPARABLE CITIES ARE DOING AND IT ALSO HELPS US CLEAR OUT THE FACT THAT WE WERE CHARGING RATES THAT WERE NOT FAIR. UM AFTER FEBRUARY, 2ND 2008 BECAUSE WE HADN'T GONE THROUGH THE PROPER PROCESS OF RAISING THEM. THIS IS A PROPER PROCESS OF RAISING THEM. THERE'S ANOTHER PROPER PROCESS TO RAISE THEM THROUGH THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS, BUT RIGHT NOW WE'RE SET BASICALLY RESETTING. UM GOING FORWARD ANYBODY THAT WE'RE IMPOUNDING AFTER THIS ORDINANCE HAS PASSED WILL ABSOLUTELY NOT BE PART OF THAT CLASS. THAT'S GREAT. I WANT TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. LET'S NOT DO IT. LET'S NOT DO IT FOR A LONG WAY AGAIN. THAT'S GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU ANYONE ELSE? I'M NOT SEEING ANYONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE. SO WITH THAT THIS IS AN ORDINANCE THAT REQUIRES A ROLL CALL VOTE, MADAM CLERK. COUNCILMAN ARE YOU ALL LOCKED IN? OR SHOULD I CALL YOU VERBALLY? COME IF INCOMING VERBALLY THAT WOULD APPRECIATE THAT, OKAY? COUNCIL MEMBER OWEN . YES, COUNCIL MEMBER SIGN. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER HUDSON. I'M SORRY, SIR. DID YOU SAY YOU'RE MUTED. YES. ACCORDING HIM AS A YES, SIR. MR. CHAIR. YOU HAVE[00:20:08]
FIVE YEARS, FOLKS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THIS PASSES AND WE'LL GO TO CONSENT IN THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING WITH THAT. I'M NOT SEEING ANY MORE BUSINESS SO I BELIEVE WE ARE ADJOURNED.[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]
THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A NICE EVENING.* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.