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JUST LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY FOR ME.HMM. WELCOME TO THE COMMITTEE MEETING OF PUBLIC WORKS. I AM CHAIRPERSON, COUNCILWOMAN DONNA
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PURVIS, MY CULTURE COUNCILMAN ROBIN EAGLES IS PRESENT TODAY. TODAY WE ALSO HAVE COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL COUNCILMAN SIGN AND ONLINE. WE HAVE COUNCILMAN STUART. WE HAVE TO EXCUSE ABSENCES FROM COUNCILMAN WERE SHOT AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN ACKERSON. UM TODAY. WE WERE I'M SORRY. UM. MISS BENNET, WOULD YOU PLEASE READ THE LANGUAGE MAN'S LANGUAGE? THIS MEETING IS BEING HELD PURSUANT TO CARE. A 61.826 AND COUNCIL RULE 58 READ IN FULL THANK YOU, MA'AM. TODAY[Special Discussion]
WE HAVE ROBERT KERCH. DORIS BROUGHT HER HERE AS WELL AS GO CROW FROM COLD ENFORCEMENT. TO TALK ABOUT SOME, UM, DISTRICT EFFICIENCIES THAT ARE NOT ONLY IN DISTRICT FIVE, BUT IN A FEW OTHER WESTERN DISTRICTS AS WELL. BUT TODAY OUR FOCUS WORLD. OUR FINDINGS ARE OUT OF DISTRICT FIVE AND ALSO AS AT ITS SUPPORT. WE HAVE, UH PETE FELL OUT OF HERE AND JENNIFER KERN FROM PUBLIC WORKS. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK MR CURSED, OFFERED TO COME TO THE PODIUM AND, UM, IF YOU WOULD PLEASE GO AHEAD AND START IT OFF. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. ROBERT KURDS TO REFER DIRECTOR OF CODES AND REGULATIONS. UH TODAY, I WAS ASKED, YOU KNOW, THE KIND OF EXPLAIN THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE ENFORCEMENT PROCESS. UH BASICALLY FROM THE INSPECTION THAT COMPLAINT ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE PROCESS, SO UH, IN A NUTSHELL. WILL TRY TO EXPLAIN IT THE BEST I CAN. I'VE TRIED TRAVEL TIMES TO TRY TO ANSWER THINGS, BUT NOT ALL CASES ARE THE SAME SUMMER DOOZY. SHOULD I SAY THAT WE RUN INTO VERY PROBLEM AND IT TAKES ADDITIONAL STEPS. BUT FIRST OF ALL, MOST COMPLAINTS COME IN THROUGH METRO 311. AH WE HAVE SET UP OUR SYSTEM. IT'S BEEN FOR MANY YEARS AND SET UP THAT WE TAKE THE COMPLAINTS IN THEY GO THROUGH THE CARD IN THE SYSTEM AND THEN THROUGH THE SYSTEM, THEY ARE ASSIGNED TO OUR INSPECTORS AUTOMATICALLY. THEY GO TO OUR INSPECTORS AND THEIR ASSIGNED AREAS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE BASICALLY 28 AREAS SET UP FOR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AREAS AREAS AND THEN WE HAVE NINE INSPECTORS THAT ARE FLOATERS IF WE WERE FULLY STAFFED AND WE HAVE 12 CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO DOING SECTION EIGHT PROPERTIES. SO WE HAVE A TOTAL OF 49 IF WE WERE FULLY STAFFED. RIGHT NOW, AND WE'RE ANTICIPATING TO HIRE ADDITIONAL NINE INSPECTORS AND OTHER SUPPORT STAFF FOR THE RENTAL REGISTRY THAT WILL BE COMING ONLINE THIS YEAR. AS SOON AS WE GET EVERYBODY HIRED, THE SYSTEM DEVELOPED, BUT IT'S IN THE PROGRESS. PROCESS RIGHT NOW, SO BASICALLY. GO BACK AND WE HAVE OUR INSPECTORS ARE INSPECTORS WILL GO OUT. THEY GET THE COMPLAINT. IT WILL SHOW UP IN THEIR COMPUTER. THOSE SEARCH FOR THEIR NEW COMPLAINTS TODAY OR THEIR DUBAI DUE DATES WILL BE NEW COMPLAINTS AND THEY WILL GO OUT AND MAKE INSPECTION AND THEN INSPECT THE PROPERTY IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE CHAPTER 1 56 FOR VIOLATIONS TO GO BACK IN SO IF THEY FIND A VIOLATION THEY WILL KNOW THAT WILL ISSUE A VIOLATION NOTICE. TYPICALLY WE ISSUE A VIOLATION NOTICE ON THE VIOLATIONS AND WILL GIVE THE PERSON A SET TIME TO COME AND COMPLIANCE WITH THE DUE DATE. AH WE ALSO RESCHEDULE THAT BACK AFTER THAT, DUE DATE TO DETERMINE IF THEY COMPLIED OR NOT WHEN WE COME BACK AND THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE. WE WISH YOU CITATION UNLESS THEY[00:10:07]
HAVE MADE STEADY PROGRESS. THERE WERE FIVE VIOLATIONS AND THEY SHOWED THAT THEY WERE MAKING GOOD PROGRESS, GOOD FAITH AND HAVE TAKEN CARE OF SEVERAL OF THEM. AND THEY'RE GOING IN. WE MIGHT PUT IT ON HOLD WAIT TO THE NEXT ONE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN MAKING STEADY PROGRESS. SO ON THOSE IT WILL BE HOLDING THIS GIVEN NEW AND RE INSPECTION DATE WILL COME BACK OUT. IF THE VIOLATION IS STILL THERE WILL BECOME BACK OUT AGAIN AND WILL ISSUE ANOTHER CITATION AND OUR FEE SCHEDULE IS BASED ON CHAPTER 1 56 IN THE APPENDIX, OR IT'S $100 FOR BASICALLY EACH VIOLATION. SO IF THERE WERE THREE VIOLATIONS FOUND ON THE FIRST CITATION, AND WE ISSUED A CITATION, WE WOULD ISSUE THE A $300 FINE. THE NEXT TIME OUT BEFORE 105 100, SO ON IT GOES UP EACH EACH STEP. BASED ON THAT FEE SCALE. SO IT'S EASY FOR US TO GET UP TO OVER $1000 THE MAXIMUM 1500 ON THOSE BY THE SCALE IF THERE ARE MULTIPLE VIOLATIONS. GOES BACK THROUGH SO ALSO REMEMBER ON THIS. ANYTHING OR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE GOES THROUGH THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD TO BELIEVE FOR THE CIVIL PENALTIES, SO ANYBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO APPEAL. ANY ANY VIOLATION THAT WE GIVE OR CITATION THEY WILL APPEAL. UH IF THEY DO APPEAL WITHIN THE TIME FRAME, THEY GO. THEY WOULD BE SCHEDULED FOR THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARDS, SO THEY CIVIL PENALTIES STOOD IN THE BAND'S UNTIL THE BOARD RULES AND BECOMES A FINAL HEARING. I MEAN, FINAL ORDER. AND YOU KNOW ONCE AND THAT IF IT'S EITHER THE CODE BOARD MIGHT WORK WITH ONE OF THE BIG GAVE THEIR STORY TOLD HIM THE REASON WHY THEY WEREN'T IN COMPLIANCE. THE CODE BOARD HAS THAT THE JUDGE AT THE TIME THEY CAN WORK WITH THE PEOPLE THEY APPEAL. PELANT AND YOU KNOW, GIVE THEM MORE TIME SCHEDULING BACKUP FOR ANOTHER HEARING THAT COME BACK IN FOR FULL COMPLIANCE , SO IT GOES TO THE PROCESS THEY APPEAL IF THEY DON'T APPEAL AH, AFTER THE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DATES IT GOES BACK IN. WE USE THE, UH, THE LEANING NOTIFICATION SYSTEM WERE PUBLISHED AND OVER ITEMS THERE AND IT BECOMES A FOUND ORDER AFTER IF THEY DIDN'T APPEAL AFTER SEVEN DAYS. THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS OF THE COMMENTS THAT YOU JUST MADE OKAY? WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE FRAME REACHES 1500? WELL, THAT'S JUST A MAXIMUM AND IT'S SAID THERE THEN WE GO TO THE NEXT INSPECTION. IF THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE WOULD BE 1500 IF THEY TOOK CARE OF SEVERAL OF THE VIOLATIONS. THAT MIGHT ONLY BE A $300 FINE THE NEXT TIME IF THEY RESOLVE SOME OF THE OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS. SO IF THERE ARE THREE VIOLATIONS, AND THERE'S A FINE FOR EACH ONE OF THIS, $300 AND THEN IF WE MADE OUR SECOND INSPECTION ON THAT IT WILL GO TO 300. THEY DIDN'T COMPLY. 405 100 ON THAT JUST THREE VIOLATIONS THAT IT GOES UP. SO I SAY I HAVE THREE VIOLATIONS AND I'M ALREADY AT $100 PER VIOLATION. WHEN YOU COME BACK OUT, AND I HAVE NOT MADE ANY CORRECTIONS. WHAT WILL I BE FINDING THAT POINT? THREE AND THERE'S THREE INSPECTIONS.MHM. OH, THAT WOULD BE BASICALLY IT BE OUR FOURTH TRIP OUT THERE. FOURTH TRIP OUT. THREE VIOLATIONS THAT WOULD BE $600. OKAY SO OKAY, SO EVERYTHING GOES OKAY. I SEE WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
SO INCREASES BY $100 EACH TIME YOU GO OUT, RIGHT? OKAY OKAY. THE NUMBER OF OUTSTANDING VIOLATIONS AND THEN BY THE NUMBER OF INSPECTIONS. OKAY, UM IT IS A PASSPORT FOR YOU TO GIVE ME A COPY. UH ALL OF THE VIOLATIONS AND DISTRICT FIVE THAT HAVE REACHED THAT 1500 MORE. I DON'T EXPECT IT TODAY, BUT I CAN GIVE YOU TODAY QUICK. NUMBER BASED ON OUR CONVERSATION THE OTHER DAY, I WAS ABLE TO GET STAFF PULL UP THE TOTAL NUMBER. HAVE YOU? I MEAN, I'LL TAKE A TOTAL TO DATE, A TOTAL NUMBER IN COUNCIL DISTRICT. FIVE. THAT'S JUNE. UH YOU KNOW, TO JUNE 30TH FROM JANUARY 1ST THAT WE HAVE ISSUED CURRENTLY ON THE BOOKS 1,235,900. UH IN CIVIL CITATIONS IN DISTRICT FILE, SO THAT'S LIKE 1.3 MILLION OKAY POINT TO AND FOR A TOTAL 4 MILLION. AND 74,671. THAT WAS THROUGH JUNE 30TH. NOT SAYING THAT ALL THOSE THAT COULD BE APPEALED. GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, BUT THOSE WERE ONES THAT WE WENT OUT AND MADE INSPECTIONS. WE'VE MADE A
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TOTAL OF 30,788 INSPECTIONS. IN YOUR AREA AND DISTRICT FIVE. WE'VE MADE 7000. 46 INSPECTIONS.AND THAT'S. YOUR INFORMATION, AS YOU ALREADY KNOW, IN YOUR DISTRICT HAS A LOT OF VACANT PROPERTIES AND OTHER ISSUES THAT IS MORE THAN DOUBLE THAN UH, ANY OTHER DISTRICT SO IF YOU ROUGHLY IF WE ROUGHLY HAVE, LIKE 1.3 MILLION IN FIND SOME DISTRICT FIVE OUT OF 4 MILLION DISTRICT FIVE HAS LIKE A THIRD. OF YOUR. EVERYTHING'S FINE, AND AM I CORRECT IN SAYING. IT WOULD BE A OVER A QUARTER. SO IN YOUR. I'M NOT. I WOULD NEED MY CALCULATOR BUT TONY SIX DISTRICTS. THAT IS A LOT. BUT DO YOU THINK THE MAJORITY OF THESE ARE VACANT PROPERTIES OCCUPIED PROPERTIES? UM BASED ON. PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE. A LOT OF THESE ARE NO, PROBABLY MORE THE VACANT PROPERTIES. UM. YOU KNOW WHAT A LOT OF THE FOLKS WILL ISSUE VIOLATION NOTICE AND PEOPLE WILL CORRECT THEM COME BACK IN IF THEY DIDN'T CUT THE GRASS TO CUT IT WITHIN A WEEK OR SO. UM BUT WE COULD I COULD TRY TO GET YOUR DAD ON THAT. BUT YOU'RE I KNOW, BASED ON NUMEROUS YEARS YOUR YOUR DISTRICT AND I HAVEN'T REALLY SEEN HOW THEY REDISTRICTING CHANGED A LITTLE BIT. BUT YOU'RE YOU'VE ALWAYS HAD THE MOST VACANT PROPERTIES. THAT DISTRICT THAT IS A PROBLEM.
AND OF THE VACANT PROPERTIES OF THESE INVESTOR PROPERTIES. SOME MIGHT BE, BUT MOST INVESTORS TRYING TO GET THEM. AH! OCCUPIED A LOT OF THESE PEOPLE HAVE WALKED AWAY OR THEY'RE VACANT LOTS. OKAY? AT SOME POINT. UM AND I DON'T WANT TO PUT IN A STRESS ON YOU. BUT I DO NEED THIS INFORMATION TO TRY TO FIGURE THINGS OUT. AT SOME POINT ANYWAY, YOU CAN BREAKDOWN STRUCTURE VERSUS VACANT LOT. UM IF YOU CAN IDENTIFY THE OWNERS. ONLY PROPERTIES. AND IF YOU COULD JUST QUICKLY TELL US WHAT . MOVES A CASE TO COURT THE COURT THE COURT ASPECTS OF IT AND WE WILL GET WITH YOU AND WORK WITH OUR OTHER AGENCY. THAT HELPS US A LOT TO YOU. BOWMAN'S GROUP OVER IN HOUSING COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, THE VACANT PROPERTIES THEY'VE DONE SOME OTHER RESEARCH WITH OUR DATA AND CAME BACK IN AND I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF THE VACANT LOTS. AND THEY OCCUPIED PROPERTIES KIND OF BROKEN OUT. BUT WE SHOULD BE WORKING ON TRYING TO GET YOU THAT INFORMATION REPORT FROM THE SYSTEM, BUT ON THE COURT PROPERTIES SOMETHING JUST SAY, AS I SAID, THAT'S OUR STANDARD PROCESS ISSUE, THEN THE CIVIL PENALTY UM, HOWEVER, WHEN THAT'S NOT WORKING. UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS THAT AREN'T GOING TO CARE ABOUT.
PUTTING A CIVIL PENALTY ON WE CAN'T FIND ON WE'RE GOING IN, SO WE WILL MOVE TO COURT AFTER WE'VE FOUND THAT THIS ISN'T WORKING, OR WE USUALLY WILL SITE UP TO THREE TIMES AND WE KNOW THIS IS NOT GOING TO GO ANYWHERE. WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO GO HERE, BUT WE NEED TO GET THEM IN COURT IN FRONT OF A JUDGE. IF THEY WILL SHOW UP IF THEY CAN GET IN THERE, AND THEN WE CAN HOPEFULLY GET THE JUDGE. TO ASSIST US OR GET THEM IN CONTEMPT OF THEY DIDN'T TAKE CARE OF THE PROPERTY TO GET IT CLEANED UP, THEN WE MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE LEVERAGE TO TRY TO HELP PEOPLE ENCOURAGE THEM TO TAKE CARE OF THE PROBLEM. IF THEY DON'T KNOW WE WILL GO IN AND CLEAN IT. I AM HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE. I KNOW YOUR PROPERTY. SHORT STREET TOOK A WHILE TO GET CLEAN. I'M HOPING IT WILL STAY CLEAN. WE'VE CLEANED IT BEFORE AND HEADED IN SHAPE AND IT CAME BACK, BUT I MEAN, IT'S ON HER EYE AND WE HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DOWN ON THE 44TH STREET IN YOUR DISTRICT THAT WAS TOTALLY OUT OF CONTROL SALVAGE YARD. HOPEFULLY WE GOT THEIR ATTENTION . UH, WE'LL HAVE TO SEE BUT WE'LL STAY. FOLLOWING UP ON THOSE, BUT THOSE ARE WE HAVE OTHER ONES LIKE THAT AROUND. BUT THOSE ARE WOULD SAY VERY BAD. YEAH. SO. LET'S LOOK AT THIS IN A HYPOTHETICAL MANNER. I AM A PROPERTY OWNER AND MY PROPERTY IS A TOTAL NUISANCE. I DON'T CUT THE GRASS. I HAVE RODENTS EVERYWHERE HAVE BROKEN WINDOWS, AND YOU'VE CITED ME AND I IGNORE THIS CITATIONS. I IGNORE THE FINES. YOU TAKE ME TO COURT. I IGNORE THE COURT. CASE I IGNORE
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EVERYTHING. WHAT HAPPENS TO ME AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THAT PROPERTY? WELL, WE WILL GO BACK AND USUALLY ON THAT. BY THE TIME WE WENT TO COURT, WE HAVE HAD FINDS PUT ON THE PROPERTY AND WE WENT IN AND CIVIL PENALTIES ARE THERE. YOU'VE GOT TO REMEMBER THOSE ALSO BEAR INTEREST. THEY WILL FILE LEGAL COUNSEL RECEIVED WILL FILE A LIEN. THERE'S ADMINISTRATIVE CHARGE ADDED ONTO THAT. THAT PENALTY FEES SO EACH DAY THAT'S GOING ON THAT IS DRAWING 18% INTEREST BY THE ORDINANCE. THAT'S GOING IN. SO THAT'S THAT'S ONE DETERMINE IF THE GET THAT THEN WE HAVE THE RIGHT. GO AFTER THOSE DOLLAR ZONE. WE COULD GO FORECLOSURE. AH, HOWEVER, I MEAN, THAT'S WE PASSED THAT ON TO ANOTHER AGENCY THAT HANDLES THOSE THAT GOES THROUGH AND THERE'S ONLY SO MANY UH, FORECLOSURES THEY CAN DO EACH YEAR AND YOU KNOW, THEY KIND OF EVALUATE THOSE AND GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS. THEY CREATED A BLIGHTED PROPERTIES ACTION TEAM AND HAVE MEETINGS AND TRY TO LOOK AT THOSE AND MEET WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY AND A GROUP OF FOLKS TO TRY TO GET THE WORST OF THE WORST, AND WE WILL BRING SOME UP. TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE THAT TO MOVE THOSE FORWARD. CERTAIN ONES. THEN THERE'S IF THEY'RE IN REALLY BAD SHAPE. THEY'LL GO THROUGH THE DEMOLITION WILL PUT THEM IN DEMOLITION AGAIN THE CITY'S DEMOLITION PROGRAM AND, UH, THEY MIGHT COME DOWN THERE. WE MIGHT TEAR THE HOUSE DOWN IF IT'S IN THAT BETTER SHAPE OR IF IT'S DECLARED AN EMERGENCY. WE HAVE A LOT OF FIRES AND STUFF. THERE'S A LOT OF EMERGENCIES THAT ARE TAKEN DOWN. AND THOSE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE AND THE AGENCY THAT DOES THE DEMOLITION DOLLARS. ARE EMERGENCIES. TAKE A LOT OF THAT FUNDING. SO THEY GO THROUGH A PROCESS AND THEY HAVE TO NOTIFY ERRORS, YOU KNOW, DO THE DUE DILIGENCE TO GET THE PROCESS. AND THAT WE ALSO TAKE DOWN. I KNOW THAT THE HOUSE IS SO THAT'S THE OTHER OPTION. PEOPLE COULD HAVE THEIR HOUSE TORN DOWN THEIR PROPERTY. TAKE IT THROUGH AND WHEN WE TEAR THOSE DOWN, WE STILL DON'T OWN THE PROPERTY.PEOPLE THINK PEOPLE THINK METRO TOWARD THE HOUSE DOWN. THEY THINK THAT WE OWN THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN, AS YOU KNOW, WILL END UP CUTTING THE GRASS. THANK YOU, COUNSEL FOR GRANTING US MONEY TWO YEARS AGO MIDYEAR THAT WE WERE ABLE TO DOUBLE BASICALLY UNDER STAFF AFTER THE PANDEMIC.
WE HAD IN 28 FOLKS AND SOME EXTRA CREWS GOT AWAY FROM THE INMATE CREWS. UH COMING IN AND THAT'S REALLY HELPED US TO GET TO THE PROPERTIES. BUT IT'S BEEN A LOT OF RAIN ACTION QUALITY AIR DAYS WHEN WE'RE NOT CUTTING. WE DO HAVE SOME EQUIPMENT THAT WE CAN RUN ON THOSE DAYS WERE PROPANE, PROPANE MOWERS AND ALSO ELECTRIC WEED EATERS. BUT YOU'VE SEEN THE LOTS THAT WERE CUTTING . WE'RE NOT CUTTING REGULAR YARDS. THESE ARE YOU KNOW, VERY TALL GRASS DUMPED ON CLEAN THOSE UP. IT TAKES A LITTLE MORE POWER, BUT MORE FOR DAILY OUT THERE, REMOVING NOTES AND CLEANING THOSE PROPERTIES WE HAD OVER 1500 ON OUR ANNUAL LIST. NOT TO MENTION THE LAND BANK PROPERTIES THAT WE TAKE CARE OF ANOTHER 600 OR SO ON THAT LIST, AND THEN OUR REGULAR REFERRALS THAT WERE CALLED R BOARDINGS, REGULAR CLEANINGS THAT AREN'T ON THAT LIST IF THE OWNER AND WE CITE THEM GO BACK AND THEY DON'T TAKE CARE OF IT. IT WILL BECOME A REFERRAL AND THEN ON THE VACANT PROPERTIES, I WILL SAY OCCUPIED PROPERTIES. LIKE THE SHORT STREET AND 44TH STREET. UH PROPERTY. THOSE OCCUPIED PROPERTY SHARE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A PROBLEM. THE VACANT PROPERTIES WE CAN GO ON, BUT THEY CAN BE CONTENTIOUS STUFF. WE LIKE TO GO TO COURT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE JUDGES WHERE EVERYBODY'S WE'RE HAVING A LITTLE MORE COVERAGE. THERE WE GO IN AND START CLEANING. OR A LOT. WE TRIED TO GET ARREST WARRANTS ON THE FOLKS BECAUSE IF THEY DIDN'T SHOW UP, TRY TO GET IN FRONT OF JUDGE. HEY, WE'VE THEY DON'T SHOW UP FOR COURT.
THIS IS A MESS. WE'RE ABL TO SHOW THEM PICTURES. IT'WEN FOR THIS TIME FRAME. AND THEY'RE MORE INCLINED TO GIVE US AN ARREST WARRANT ON ON AN OWNER. AH! IT MAKES THEIR CLEANING A LOT EASIER. YOU MENTIONED AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU MENTIONED, UM. THE COLD ENFORCEMENT BOARD. SO FOR THE PUBLIC CAN YOU JUST GIVE US LITTLE INFORMATION WHO THEY ARE? AND YOU KNOW WHEN AND WHERE DO THEY NEED? YES THE CODING BIS CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD IS I LOCA ORDINCE. AS PAIR OF 65. THATS ESTABLISHED ESTABLISHES THAT WE CAN ESTABLISH A LOCAL CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD AND IT IS THERE TO TAKE ANY THROUGH A CIVIL PROCESS THAT THEY CAN RULE ON ANY ORDINANCE IF IT'S SPELLED OUT TO GO TO THE CODE
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ENFORCEMENT BOARD. UH, JUST SET UP TO HEAR THOSE APPEALS. SO THEY'RE HEARING WERE THE BIGGEST, UM. USER OF THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, BECAUSE WE DO THE VOLUME. BUT ALSO ANIMAL CONTROL GOES IN FRONT OF THEIR CASES GOING FROM THEIR POLLUTION CONTROL. SMOKING ORDINANCE ILLEGAL DUMPING. UH THOSE TYPE THINGS THE NEW RACING ORDINANCE IS OUT. THERE IS IT'S ONE THAT GOES IN FRONT OF CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD, AND THESE ARE THESE ARE CITIZENS. THAT HEALTH BASICALLY, VOLUNTEERS SIGNED UP AND WERE APPOINTED TO THE BOARD. OKAY? UM WE HAVE A PRESENTATION THAT WE LIKE TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL, UM ARE YOU GUYS BRINGING THAT UP OR YOU KNOW, AND PURPOSE JUST POINT OUT. WESLEY BARBER IS OUR MANAGER OF OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DIVISION. I WANT TO GIVE HIM A SHOUT OUT. I MEAN HIS HIS GROUP AND OUR PROPERTY MAINTENANCE DIVISION IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST DIVISIONS THAT WE HAVE, BUT IT'S ONE OF THE MOST ACTIVE THAT IS DEALING WITH PROPERTY MAINTENANCE VIOLATIONS , BUT I WANTED TO POINT THEM OUT. WE HAVE A LOT OF NEW MEMBERS. PEOPLE JUST WESLEY WESLEY'S FACE THERE FOR THE FACE WITH THE NAME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OKAY SO WE HAVE A PRESENTATION OF THAT. I LIKE TO SHOW AND WE'RE GONNA HAVE SOME DISCUSSION BASED OFF OF THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO STAY THERE. IF YOU WANT TO SIT AND TALK THEM THERE. IT DOESN'T MATTER, UM STICK AROUND WITH WE MIGHT BE AWARE OF SOME OF THE QUESTIONS, THAT'S ALL YOU CAN BRING UP. SHE EXCUSE ME, YOUNG MAN. CAN YOU LOOK OUT THAT DOOR AND SEE IF COW THAT'S IN THE DOORWAY? PLEASE? I'M SORRY. SO LAST WEEK, YOU AND I HAD A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS HUGE LIST THAT MY COMMUNITY OUTREACH COORDINATOR AND I CREATED WE RATHER DISTRICT WEEKLY LOOKING FOR DEFICIENCY NEEDS. AND THESE THIS ONE RIGHT HERE. IS ONE THAT I HAVE NO SONG THAT CAME BACK FROM YOUR FOLKS THAT SAID THAT AH, THE HOUSE WAS NICE AND CLEAN AND A NICE HOUSE. SO I'LL GO BACK, AND THIS IS WHAT I FIND. AND THE GRASS IS STILL ABOUT FOUR INCHES AS YOU CAN SEE. UH BASED ON THE SIDE OF THE OTHER FRIENDS, THE GRASS IS STILL PRETTY TALL. SO I WANTED TO ADDRESS THIS, UM, THAT I'M FINDING THIS. THE EFFICIENCY AFTER YOUR PERSON SAID IT WAS NICE AND CLEAN AND EVERYTHING WAS TAKEN CARE OF. THIS IS WHATO MOVE TO THE NEXT, PLEASE UM, ALSO, THIS IS THE BACK. THIS IS THE FRONT. AND THIS IS THE BACK OF THIS PROPERTY THAT YOU WON'T SAY WAS NICE AND CLEAN AND A VERY NICE HOUSE. I WANTED YOU TO SEE THAT. UH, OVERGROWN VEGETATION AND FOR THE RECORD, IF YOU ALL CAN IDENTIFY THE PROPERTY OWNER'S RESPONSIBILITY AS TO HAVE FAR MORE THEY TO GO. INTO THE ALLEY OR INTO THE STREET. IF THERE'S TRASH AH, OVERGROWN VEGETATION. WHAT HAVE YOU CAN YOU? UH, EITHER ONE OF YOU ALL CLEARLY TELL US WHAT INSTANT PROPERTY OWNERS RESPONSIBILITY OF CLEANLINESS.YES I MEAN THEY PROPERTY MAINTENANCE CODE ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES. WELL, BASICALLY SPELL OUT THAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTY CLEAN. ESPECIALLY AND GRASS. IT REFERS TO THE CENTER LINE, THE STREET OR TO THE ALLEY AND THE ALLEY. OKAY SO YOU CAN SEE THAT'S BASED. I MEAN, THAT IS RIGHT AGAINST THE PROPERTY OF THE BACK OF THE PROPERTY. THEN YOU COME AROUND THE FRONT AND THEY HAVE ALL KIND OF JUNK ON THE PORCH. SO WITH THAT. UH THAT DEEM OF VIOLATION FROM WHAT WE'RE SEEING HERE. OBVIOUSLY IT'S ABOUT IT WOULD BE A VIOLATION FROM SEEING AND I WOULD IT'S HARD FOR US TO GO BACK IN. I WOULD I WOULD WANT TO GO BACK AND WORK WITH YOU TO GO. IF YOU GIVE ME THE ADDRESS, IF WE CAN CHECK WON'T CALL IT PUBLICLY BECAUSE IT WOULDN'T KNOW. I MEAN, YEAH, WE LIKE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON AND MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT ADDRESS, AND, UH YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE MIGHT HAVE BEEN ON THE ANNUAL CUT LIST, AND IF IT'S IF IT'S ON ONE OF THOSE IT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED TO GO BACK IN AND
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CLEAN ON SOME OF THOSE, SO I KNOW A LOT OF THOSE THE GRASSES GETS APART. I THINK WHAT REALLY CAUGHT ME BY SURPRISE WAS THE COMMENT. VERY NICE HOUSE, CLEAN HOUSE. VERY NICE HOUSE, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT. IT'S JUST NOT THE CASE, SO WE'LL TALK ABOUT THAT, UM, LATER. SO CALIPH PIZZA. SO AGAIN. ALL OF THIS IS, UM, TRASH THAT'S IN ALLEYS, BUT IT'S AGAINST PRIVATE PROPERTY. BUT UH , TRUST IN. THIS IS WHY I HAVE PUBLIC WORKS HERE. EITHER THE TRASH WAS OVERFLOWING OR IT WAS MISC. THIS WAS A SUNDAY EVENING AND TRASH SHOULD HAVE BEEN PICKED UP ONLY THURSDAY OR FRIDAY IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS SO MUCH TRASH LEFT BEHIND IN THAT ALLEY. WOULD YOU LIKE TO ADDRESS THAT MR FLOOD? YES PEOPLE FLOOD, LOCAL METRO DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC WORKS SWIMS DIVISION. WELL. FIRST OFF. IT'S OBVIOUSLY THESE ARE PICTURES AND IT'S HARD TO TELL, BUT IT COULD BE THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS GENERATING MORE WASTE THAN WHAT CAPACITY THEY HAVE IN THEIR GARBAGE CART. UH IT COULD BE THAT THEY DON'T KNOW THEY'RE WAITING FOR ANOTHER GARBAGE CARD, WHICH WE HAVEN'T HAD FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THE LARGER ITEMS THAT COULD BE THAT THEY HAVE NOT MADE A AN APPOINTMENT FOR US TO COME. PICK THAT UP. SO IT COULD BE MANY DIFFERENT THINGS AND REASONS FOR THIS, SO IT'S A PROBLEM THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO GO AND TAKE A LOOK AT SITE OF PROPERTY OWNER IF NEED BE, IF THEY'RE WAITING FOR A GARBAGE CART. IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SIGHT SOMEONE FOR AN OVERFLOWING GARBAGE CART.THEY COULDN'T PICK UP WHAT THEY SELL THEM. WE DO GENERALLY WE IT'S AGAINST ORDINANCE TO PUT STUFF OUTSIDE OF THE GARBAGE CARD AND WHAT'S IN THE GARBAGE COURT. WHAT'S ON TOP OF IT. SO THE KEEPING MAN THAT THESE GARBAGE COLLECTORS THEY'RE DOING 812 100 HOUSEHOLDS TODAY. THE SYSTEM IS SET UP TO WHERE YOU DON'T HAVE TO GRAB BAGS OF TRASH AND THAT SAFETY ISSUE SO WE PREFER THAT WE DO NOT GRAB BAGS . HYPODERMIC SIX SHARPS CHEMICALS, AND WHEN YOU DO THAT 8 TO 1200 HOUSEHOLD TODAY. THE RISK OF YOU COMING ACROSS SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE GOING TO GET POKED WITH. YES, SIGNIFICANT. SO WE DON'T HAVE ANOTHER METHOD FOR THIS, SO WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE TRASH LIKE THIS. AND THIS ALLEY IN MANY ALLEYS. AGAIN THIS IS WHY WE HAVE LIFE SIZED ROBOTS WALKING AROUND THAT YOU COULD PROBABLY PUT A LEASH ON AS A PET. BECAUSE OF THINGS LIKE THIS THAT INVITE THEM, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOME TYPE OF SYSTEM TO NOT ONLY ADDRESS THIS, BUT CORRECT THIS BECAUSE I SEE THIS TOO OFTEN IN DISTRICT FIVE ALONE . I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE ALLEYS AND THE OTHER DISTRICTS THAT ARE NEARBY, SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING. THIS JUST CANNOT HAPPEN. I WOULD SAY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE NUMBER OF STOLEN GARBAGE CARTS. UH YOUR DISTRICT DISTRICT FIVE. I BELIEVE THE HIGHEST. UH SO WHEN YOU PUT OUT A CART, AND IT GOES MISSING PEOPLE DON'T BRING THEIR CARTS BACK UP. OTHER PEOPLE UTILIZE THEIR CARDS AS WELL. YOU KNOW, WE MADE A MAJOR DEPLOYMENT OF GARBAGE CARDS IN 2003. GARBAGE CARS ARE BUILT TO LAST ABOUT 10 YEARS. IN 2013, THE NUMBER OF REPORTED MISSING AND STOLEN AND DAMAGED STARTED INCREASING BACK. GREAT DEAL. WE HAVE NEVER HAD A REPLACEMENT PROGRAM FOR THOSE UH HUH. AND CART INFRASTRUCTURE IN THE ALLEYS IS AND SOMETIMES DOUBLE THE LIFE EXPECTANCY. SO IT WOULD TAKE. IT WOULD AGREE WITH YOU 100% THAT IT'S AN ISSUE AND SOME OF THESE PEOPLE CAN'T AFFORD TO PAY FOR REPLACEMENT CARD. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE GET TO LEAVE THE TRASH ALL IN THE ALLEY. SO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO COME UP WITH SOMETHING.
THIS IS JUST NOT ACCEPTABLE AT ALL. SO I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU CREATE SOME TYPE OF PLAN OF ACTION. TO ADDRESS THIS BECAUSE THIS IS PROBLEMATIC. WE'RE ALL OPEN FOR SUGGESTIONS AND WORKING ON TRYING TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM AS WE HAVE BEEN FOR QUITE SOME TIME. THANK YOU. NO.
OKAY, SO MR CURSED OFFER. SO NOW THIS IS WHERE YOU COME IN. MHM YOUR GUYS GO OUT AND THEY SEE ALL OF THIS OVERGROWN VEGETATION ON PRIVATE PROPERTY THAT IS EXTENDING OUT INTO THE PUBLIC
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RIGHT AWAY. NOTHING'S BEEN DONE. TO MAKE A CORRECTION. SO AT THAT POINT ISN'T THAT A VIOLATION? WHEN YOU'RE SAYING NOTHING HAS BEEN DONE. I MEAN, WE WOULDN'T IN MOST CASES, WE WOULD CITE THE PERSON AND WE CITE PEOPLE. THIS IS WHAT I LIKE TO CUT THROUGH THERE IN THE BACK AREA THERE. AH YOU KNOW, THERE WOULD BE A VIOLATION. HAVE WE BEEN THROUGH EVERY ALLEY? UH NO. IF WE'VE BEEN TO THAT PROPERTY, UH, THAT SPECIFIC PROPERTY THERE, UH, SHOULD HAVE ADDRESSED THAT. YEAH SAYING THAT WE MIGHT HAVE ADDRESSED IT IN THE OWNER DIDN'T COMPLY. YOU KNOW, THAT'S THAT'S A PROBLEM. YOU KNOW THAT THAT PLAGUES AND WE WILL CONTINUE. TO GO OUT TO A PROPERTY AND YOU KNOW WHEN THEY'RE NOT IN COMPLIANCE, AND WE WOULD BE CITING MR FLOWED. SO ONE SECOND MR CURSED OFFER, MR FLUID, SO ARE YOUR GAS NOT COMING BACK AND SAYING, HEY, LISTEN, WE CAN'T GET THROUGH THIS ALLEY BECAUSE OF ALL THE TREES GROWING, I DO. DO THEY EVER COMMUNICATED TO YOU ABOUT A LOT OF THE EXTRA VEGETATION IN THE ALIENS THAT PREVENTS THEM FROM GETTING THROUGH TO DO THEIR JOBS? WELL OBVIOUSLY WHEN THERE'S BRANCHES AND STUFF THAT DAMAGES EQUIPMENT , AND, MORE IMPORTANTLY, IT SOMETIMES INTEREST EMPLOYEES. SO YES, WE TRY TO IDENTIFY THOSE PLACES WHERE IT'S A PROBLEM. ONE OF THE ISSUES IS THAT THIS IS A COMMON ISSUE THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE U. S. D. SO IT BECOMES SO PERVASIVE THAT WHERE DO YOU START? AND. YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE OF THESE DIFFICULT THINGS TO DO. TO REPORT THEM BECAUSE YOU CAN REPORT PROBABLY YOU KNOW? 80,000 HOUSEHOLDS. FOR THE SAME ISSUE, AND WITH THE RESOURCES THAT YOU HAVE YOU IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO ADDRESS THOSE IN A TIMELY MANNER. SO YES, THE ALLEYS ISSUES IS THAT. NEEDED TO BE CUT BACK OR IMPORTANT FOR A LOT OF REASONS TO INCLUDE OUR COLLECTION SYSTEM. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES. CLEAR VIEW OF THE ALLEYS SO THAT IT REDUCES CRIME. SO THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS FOR IT. YES. IT'S VERY PERVASIVE AND. VERY DIFFICULT TO ENFORCE ALL OF THESE THINGS. THANK YOU AND APOLOGIZE. MY COLLEAGUE, COUNCILWOMAN FOLLOWED HAS BEEN IN THE Q AND I'VE BEEN TALKING TALKING LIKE HIS MY PARTY ONLY MA'AM. YOU MADAM CHAIR AND THIS IS FOR ROBERT OR WESTLEY'S WESLEY STILL HERE? HEY, HEY, I COULDN'T SEE WAS IT? UM. AND YOU MAY NOT HAVE THE ANSWER TO THIS, BUT I'M TAKING THIS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, GOING BACK TO THE CODE ENFORCEMENT BOARD WHEN THEY CONDITIONALLY DISCHARGE FINDS, UM DO THEY EVER COLLECT THOSE? IF THIS REPEAT OFFENDER COMES BACK AND BACK, OR DO THEY JUST CONTINUALLY CONDITIONALLY DISCHARGED? IF THAT, YOU KNOW, LIKE I COME AND COMPLIANCE, AND I HAVE I CALL IT ON THE SHELF. I HAVE A $3000 FINE ON THE SHELF. UM AND THEY DON'T COLLECT AT THIS TIME AND I COME BACK IN AGAIN WITH ANOTHER PROBLEM. BUT OH, MY GOSH. I DID CUT MY GRASS AGAIN. DO THEY COLLECT THAT MONEY, OR IS THERE ANY WAY TO TELL IF THAT'S BEING COLLECTED OR THEY JUST CAN'T KEEP CONDITIONALLY DISCHARGING? I WENT WEST. I FIGURED HE'D NEWLY ANSWERED OKAY. YES MA'AM.SO ON THE CONDITIONAL DISCHARGES IF WE GO BACK, AND WE NOTICED THE INSPECTOR NOTICES, THERE WAS A CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND THEN IT'S THE SAME VIOLATION TYPE. THEN THEY'LL DO WAS CALLED A SHOW CAUSE HEARING, SO THEY BRING THE PERSON BACK FOR A SHOW CAUSE AND NOT PUT IT BACK ON THE DOCKET. AND SO THEN AGAIN, IT'S BACK INTO THE HEARING OFFICER'S HANDS ON WHAT THEY DECIDE TO DO WITH IT. SO I'M NOT SAYING THEY WILL NECESSARILY UPHOLD THE SHOW CAUSE IT'S TOTALLY UP TO THEM IF THEY DO OR NOT. DO YOU KNOW WESLEY IS WITH OUR NEW SYSTEMS AND STUFF THAT WE HAVE. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN FIND OUT? IF THEY'RE IF THEY'RE COLLECTING THAT IT MAY NOT, YOU KNOW, I THINK THERE MAY BE A REPORT WE CAN RUN ON IF SOMETHING HAD A CONDITIONAL DISCHARGE AND WITHIN 365 DAYS WAS BROUGHT BACK FOR A SHOW CAUSE I THINK POTENTIALLY, I KNOW IT'S NOT BUILT RIGHT NOW, BUT I CAN TALK TO OUR PEOPLE AND GET IT. I WOULD JUST BE INTERESTED BECAUSE I KNOW YEARS AGO THAT YEAH. I DON'T THINK THEY'RE NEARLY AS FREQUENT AS THEY USED TO BE, HONESTLY, SO YEP. OKAY, THANKS. EXCUSE ME FOR THE RECORD, CAN YOU STATE YOUR NAME, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM. WESLEY BARBER. THANK YOU. CAL CAN WE CONTINUE ON? UM MR CURSED REFERRING YOU GUYS. HERE ARE A
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FEW OTHER PROPERTIES. SO HERE'S MY QUESTION IN REGARDS TO THIS IS WHEN YOU ARE BECAUSE YOU STATE THAT YOU ALL ARE COMPLAINT DRIVEN. SO PASSE. I NEED YOU TO GO TO AGREE ONE ANYWHERE STRAIGHT. WHEN YOU GET 2 TO 31 ANY WORSE STREET AND YOU'RE THERE TO FOCUS ON THAT ADDRESS ONLY WAS A POSSIBILITY OF GOING TO GO AHEAD AND ANY OTHER VIOLATIONS THAT YOU SEE ON THIS STREET WAS WAS A CHANCE OF GOING AHEAD AND WRITING UP THOSE VIOLATIONS. IF YOU SEE A VIOLATION THAT 2 30. 2 28. WHAT HAVE YOU WORTH THE CHANCE OF TAKING CARE OF THOSE OTHER VIOLATIONS WHILE YOU WERE ON THAT STREET. WELL. I'M GONNA SAY WHEN THINGS ARE OBVIOUS TALLGRASS. IF IT'S TO FEED, I WOULD I WISH OUR INSPECTORS WOULD PICK THEM ALL UP. UH ONE THING THAT HELPS US SCHEDULE THINGS IF WE REFERRAL AND GO BACK IN, HOWEVER, THEY ARE ON A CASELOAD. THERE'S GOT THEIR SCHEDULED INSPECTIONS FOR THE DAY. IF THEY STOPPED ON CERTAIN BLOCKS, WE MIGHT BE HELD UP. THE WHOLE DAY AND NEVER GET OFF AND MAKE THE OTHER OTHER INSPECTIONS . YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE, WE MIGHT THEY MIGHT KNOW THEY ALREADY HAVE AN OPEN CASE ON IF YOU RIDE BY THAT MIGHT BE ON THE ANNUAL CUT LIST. THAT IS THAT IS GOING THROUGH THERE, AND IT'S ALREADY SCHEDULED TO BE RECUT. I WISH THAT I COULD SAY THAT. WE WOULDN'T GET TO THESE, BUT YOU KNOW WE HAVE 1500 ON THAT LIST AND WE TRY TO GET BOMB EVERY 30 DAYS IN THE WEATHER. WE'VE HAD LIGHTLY. THEY WOULD BE THAT TALL. UM BEFORE WE GET BACK, SOME OF THEM SO I MEAN, IT'S THERE. WE WOULD. WE WOULD LIKE TO, BUT WE HAVE. EACH INSPECTOR HAS A LARGE LIST OF OPEN CASES TRYING TO GET THROUGH THOSE. YES, IT IS, IT WOULD BE IN NONCOMPLIANCE. AH VIOLATION, BUT IT MIGHT BE CUT SO THEY TRY TO LOOK AT THE PROPERTIES NEXT DOOR. BUT I MEAN, THEY GO DOWN AND RIDE DOWN THE STREET. WE DO HAVE FLOATERS. WE DID HAVE SINNED WEST LEAKING WHEN I ELABORATE. WE WERE SENDING INSPECTORS SOME FLOATERS OUT IN FRONT OF OUR CUT FOLKS TO SEE WHERE THEY STOOD. WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE TO TRY TO SEE IF THE GRASS WAS CUT ON A PROPERTY BEFORE SO WE CAN SPEED UP THE PROCESS. SO WE'VE TRIED DIFFERENT THINGS TO GO BACK IN, BUT THIS IS AN ONGOING I WISH IT WAS. YOU KNOW THROUGHOUT. I WISH WE DIDN'T NEED THE NUMBER OF INSPECTORS DIDN'T NEED MY VACANT LOTS. I WAS HOPING THAT WE COULD REDUCE THAT NUMBER. BUT WE'RE CUTTING CUTTING MORE GRASS FOR SIGHTING. PLENTY OF VIOLATIONS OUT THERE. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE JUST AREN'T COMPLYING. SO I THINK WE HAVE COUNTY ATTORNEY UM ROBBIE HOWARD HERE. IF YOU CAN CLARIFY. MR CURSED ROW, FIRST STATEMENT. IS THAT DEPARTMENT POLICY OR IS THAT LEGISLATIVE THAT THEY ARE COMPLETE? DRIVEN? MR KURT STORE FOR WOULD BE ABLE TO ANSWER THAT. MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IT'S JUST POLICY. I DON'T KNOW OF ANY STATUTE THAT REGULATES HOW YOU ENFORCE THE ORDINANCES IN THAT MANNER, SO BUT MR CHRISTOPHER WOULD PROBABLY BE A BETTER SOURCE ABOUT HOW THEY DETERMINE WHEN THEY DO THAT WERE SET UP TO BE COMPLAINT DRIVEN. THERE'S NOTHING PREVENTING ONE OF OUR OFFICERS. IF THEY SEE SOMETHING THAT'S A MAJOR VIOLATION TO PICK AND GO THROUGH. THEY COULD PULL OVER ANYWHERE THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO DO WE WANT I'M DOING THAT IS ANOTHER. NO QUESTION OR TRYING TO GO IN AND RESPOND TO ALL OF THEM THAT GO IN WHERE THEY MIGHT HAVE THEIR PASSING BY ONE WHERE THEY'RE GOING TO THEIR DISTRICT MIGHT BE ANOTHER INSPECTORS DISTRICT. AH! SO MEAN. YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING TO COVER WESLEY. YOU PHIL, YOU WANT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION? TRYING TO ADD ADD TO IT. BUT I MEAN, WE CAN BE PROACTIVE AND WE ARE PROACTIVE. WE DO SWEEPS. WE DO AREAS WE GO IN AREAS AND PICK UP AND TRY TO PICK UP PROPERTIES.WE DO THAT, BUT WE'RE NOT REGULARLY SET UP TO JUST GO OUT AND ROME. AH AND JUST STARTED PICKING OUT VIOLATIONS. YOU KNOW WHEN THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THEM? YOU MADE THE CITY A LOT OF MONEY IF YOU DID. WE'RE HITTING, BUT I MEAN, YOU GOT TO REMEMBER WE'RE GOING OUT THERE AND WE'LL ISSUE A VIOLATION NOTICE. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL CUT THEIR GRASS YOU KNOW, IN BETWEEN THERE MORE BROKEN STUFF LIKE THAT COLLECTING ON THAT THAT MONEY IS ONE THING. OUR GOAL IS COMPLIANCE AND EVERYBODY SHOULD BE. WE USE THAT. THE BR HAMMERED , PUT IN AND TRY TO ENCOURAGE
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PEOPLE TO MAINTAIN THEIR PROPERTIES. UH A LOT OF TIMES IT WORKS. YOU KNOW THAT THAT HOMEOWNER THAT IS THAT IS THERE LIVING ON THERE WE GO AND HIT THEM WITH STUFF. I MEAN, WE'VE EXPERIENCED. WE TALK TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME. AND YOU KNOW WE WILL SKIM A VIOLATION OR SITTING CORRECT WILL COME BACK WITH A CITATION. AND HOPEFULLY SOMETIMES THAT GETS THEIR ATTENTION. SOMETIMES THEY DON'T RESPOND OR DIDN'T FEEL IT. OKAY? COUNT. SO THIS HOUSE RIGHT HERE IS OCCUPIED. HAVE A QUESTION. WELL, YOU LIVE IN THIS HOUSE. ONLY A FABULOUS UNDER REHAB, BUT THAT'S HARD WHEN I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK LOOKING AND ADDRESS AND IF WE HAVE TO DO QUALITY CONTROL ON INSPECTORS WE WILL, BUT YOU KNOW, I CAN'T SAY I'VE SEEN HOUSES LOOK LIKE THAT. THE INSIDE THEY'RE LOOKING GOOD. UH, YOU KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN UNDER BUT I MEAN, THE OUTSIDE USUALLY IS A GOOD INDICATION OF WHAT THE INTERIORS ARE WORSE. SO YOU SEE THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT HERE. THE GRASP HAS BEEN CUT. BUT THE PROPERTIES ARE STILL A MESS. THE PROPERTY ON THE RIGHT HAS ALL TYPE OF GRASS AND VEGETATION GROWING ON THE STEPS EVERYWHERE. UH, AND THE GRASS IS HARDLY EVER CUT LOW. IS CUT. WORK COMES RIGHT BACK. YOU CAN SEE THE GRASSES. YES. STILL VERY THICK.YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS ABOUT OUR ORDINANCES 10 INCHES. 10 INCHES TO ME IS VERY HIGH. AH! YOU STILL I MEAN, I'M UNAWARE OF A LAWNMOWER THAT HAS SET FOR 10 INCHES, BUT UH, YOU KNOW IF THERE'S JOHNSON GRADS MIXED IN THE HEAT AND RAIN TODAY, IT CAN GROW FORWARD FIVE INCHES IN A DAY. UH, BUT THOSE APPEAR TO BE VACANT PROPERTIES. I CAN SEE ONE OF THE BLOOD OUT BRIGHTER BOARDS THAT ARE WE HELP SPONSOR AND HAD THE EVENT ABOARD THOSE A FEW YEARS AGO. I CAN SEE THAT ON THAT. THE PROPERTY SO UH, I ASSUME WE HAVE A CASE ON THAT ONE. AND LIKE I SAID, THE PROPERTIES ARE CUT, BUT THEY'RE NOT CLEAN. SO YOU STILL HAVE GRASS EVERYWHERE. IT LOOKS LIKE EDDIE MUNSTER'S HOUSE RIGHT HERE ON THE RIGHT. COW. CLEAR VIOLATION OF STEPS ARE CROOKED.
OUTSIDE IS DIRTY. THIS IS THIS IS WHAT I'M SAYING. WITH YOUR GUYS ARE DRIVING THROUGH THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND I KNOW THEY ALREADY HAVE A CASELOAD. BUT SOMETHING. HAVE TO FIGURE SOMETHING OUT. HOW TO ADDRESS THE ONES THAT THEY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE COMPLAINTS ON.
OVERGROWN EASEMENT THAT WENT AT THE TOP, RIGHT. YOU CAN'T WALK DOWN THERE. YOU CAN'T GET A WHEELCHAIR THROUGH THERE. BECAUSE OF THE VEGETATION GROWING TOGETHER AS MEETING EACH OTHER. THIS PROPERTY HAD NO VIOLATIONS. ACCORDING TO THE LIST. YOU SENT ME AND HAD NO VIOLATIONS, BUT LOOKING HOW TALL THE GRASSES AND THEN THE BOTTOM PICTURE. IT'S ALL OF THE TREES AND THINGS IS GROWING IN TO MEET THE REST OF THE YARD. THAT THAT DEFINITELY WOULD NOT HIS KEEP SOMETHING IS. SOMETHING IS OBVIOUS WRONG THERE. I DON'T SEE THAT THE GRASS WOULD HAVE GROWN THAT. THAT MUCH OF THE TIME BETWEEN OUR INSPECTION AND IF YOU'RE OUT THERE, I KNOW WE WERE OUT THERE IN JUNE. SAY THAT GIVE THAT LIST TO THINK WE HAD FINISHED THE 18TH. 19TH OR 20TH , SO IT'S BEEN SEVERAL WEEKS, BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THAT PROPERTY THERE THAT WE HAD THE WRONG ADDRESS, OR WE MISSED SOMETHING. GO AHEAD. DON'T WORRY ABOUT THAT. YEAH. IS THIS ACCEPTABLE? DEBRIS OUT ON THE FRONT PORCH. I JUST WANT TO KNOW. DEBRIS IS UNACCEPTABLE. I MEAN, THAT'S AN INSPECTOR'S CALL THERE THAT FOLKS HAVE THEIR THEIR TABLE AND CHAIR. USUALLY IT'S IF IT'S COVERED OR ENCLOSED , CAME BACK AND SHOULDN'T BE INTERIOR STUFF. IT SHOULD BE MORE OUTDOOR FURNITURE, HOWEVER. A LOT OF PEOPLE FEEL THAT IT WOULD CHAIR IS FINE ALL OF YOUR INSPECTORS OF THE SAME PAGE. WE DO TRAINING. WE GO BACK IN, BUT I MEAN, IT'S IF WE WERE THERE ON THAT. WE MIGHT HAVE CITED THIS. I CAN'T REALLY SEE. TOTALLY IN THE PICTURE, BUT FROM WHAT?
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EVERYTHING IS THERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN BEHIND THERE. I CAN'T TELL WHAT THAT IS. I SEE SOME IT LOOKS LIKE CHAIRS. TO THE LEFT OR STOOLS. I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S BEHIND THE SHADE CURTAIN OR WHATEVER THAT IS.YOU SEE THIS? GO BACK. AND WE SEE THOSE EVERY DAY. YOU SEE THE PROPERTY OF THEIR WITH ALL THE BUSSES STORED. ON THE PROPERTY FRESH OVERFLOWING. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED A LONG TIME AGO. THEY HAVE PROBABLY LIKE I WOULD SAY ABOUT FIVE OR SIX HUGE TRAVELING BUSSES THAT THAT DON'T MOVE THAT ARE STORED ON THEIR PROPERTY. AS SOON AS OWNING HIS CITED HIM FOR THAT. GO AHEAD.
AND SO YOU KNOW, HERE'S MY QUESTIONS AND WE CAN GO THROUGH REAL QUICKLY. WHY IS THIS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN? WHY AREN'T INSPECTORS WORKING PROACTIVELY? WELL I DO FEEL INSPECTORS DO WORK PROACTIVELY. WE MIGHT NOT HAVE THE VOLUME TO DO IT AS PROACTIVELY AS WE CAN. AND THERE'S AN EXPECTATION THAT IS OUT THERE. YOU GOT TO REMEMBER. WE'LL GO OUT THERE WORK WITH FOSTER SITE, BUT THE OWNERS ARE NOT COMPLYING. AH! THAT ARE GOING IN THERE. I MEAN, I WOULD HAVE TO LOOK IN AND MORE THAN WELCOME TO WORK WITH YOU TO GO IN EACH CASE. IF WE MISS SOMETHING, WE WILL ADDRESS IT WITH OUR STAFF. LESLIE WILL WORK WITH THAT. AND YOU KNOW, I'M HOPING THAT WE HAVE OPEN CASES ON SOME OF THESE, AND THINGS WEREN'T DO. SOME OF THOSE COULD HAVE BEEN ON OUR ANNUAL CUT LIST, AND YOU KNOW WE'RE ONLY CUTTING THEM. ONCE EVERY 30 DAYS TO THE 45 DAYS AND I WILL SAY THIS WHEN WE CUT THOSE PROPERTIES ON IT. WE'RE NOT CUTTING IT. UNFORTUNATELY LIKE A LANDSCAPING CREW. WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THE CLEANING THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME WILL BLOW IT OFF AND GO BACK IN AND PICK THE TRASH. BUT I MEAN THERE WILL BE A PILE OF DEBRIS ON THERE. OKAY IT WAS. IT WAS ANOTHER ONE. I WANT TO SHOW YOU. GO BACK AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN FIND IT. BACK. HIT THE RED VEHICLE IN IT. NO. SO THIS ONE HAD A RED VEHICLE IN FRONT OF IT. AND IT HAD TREASURE ALL ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE. AND YOU KNOW, APPARENTLY. I DON'T. I DON'T KNOW WHO LIVES IN THESE PROPERTIES. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE RENTERS. I DON'T KNOW IF THEIR OWNER OCCUPIED BUT CLEARLY THEY NEED TO KNOW AND THEY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THERE IS TRASH OUTSIDE OF THE PROPERTY, AS YOU JUST INDICATED A WHILE AGO. THAT THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR KEEPING THAT AREA CLEANED OUT UNTIL THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET AS YOU SO MANY PROPERTIES, WHICH TRASH. GOING ALL OUT, YOU KNOW, ON THE BORDER BASED OVER THEIR PROPERTIES, NO ONE'S PICKING THE PROPERTY THE TRASH UP. THEY NEED TO BE CITED TO CLEAN UP THEIR PROPERTIES. AND THIS IS BEEN IGNORED. AND THEY NEED TO BE CITED WITH THIS.
THE OWNER, OCCUPANT OR THE INVESTOR THEY NEED TO BE CITED. SO THERE EVERY DAY DOING THAT. I MEAN, I WOULD. I WOULD. I'M SORRY NOT TO OVER TALK YOU BUT UM I'VE HEARD THIS FOR A LONG TIME, AND I DON'T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE. SO I'M GOING TO PUBLICLY STATE THAT UM, I WOULD LIKE TO WORK WITH YOU AND YOUR STAFF. CLOSELY DIRECTLY. ON ADDRESSING THESE ISSUES. WE WILL SET UP A TIME. UM. TO MEET WHETHER YOU COME TO ME OR COME TO YOU. BUT I'M HOPING THAT WE CAN CREATE A PLAN OF ACTION AND WE CAN BE PROACTIVE AND THAT WE CAN RESOLVE THESE ISSUES AND GO AFTER THE BAD ACTORS THAT DON'T CARE ABOUT HOW THEY LIVE IN THIS DISTRICT. AND WE'RE MORE THAN GLAD AND WOULD WORK WITH YOU TO HELP TRY TO EDUCATE EVERYONE IN THE DISTRICT. EVERYBODY IN THERE ABOUT THE PROCESSES THAT THERE THEIR RESPONSIBILITIES WHEN THEY HAVE PROPERTY OR EVEN IF THERE ARE ANY PROPERTIES THAT THEY NEED TO MAINTAIN. OKAY AND WE JUST CANNOT CONTINUE TO BE LIKE A DAYS AGO ABOUT THIS. THIS PROBLEM IS HUGE. AND SO, UM YOU KNOW, I'M GONNA BE A LITTLE AGGRESSIVE, YOU KNOW THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, I THINK IF WE WORK TOGETHER, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN SOMETHING WE CAN GET DONE AS LONG AS WE WORK
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TOGETHER WITH PUBLIC WORKS. UM I THINK WE CAN GET SOMETHING DONE AND I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON SOME OF THESE ADDRESS SO WE CAN GO BACK AND CHECK TO SEE IF SOMETHING BROKE DOWN THERE OR WHERE IT WAS AT DEFINITELY SO RIGHT NOW. I HAVE COUNCILMAN SIAM IN THE QUEUE WITH THE QUESTION. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. UM. ONE QUESTION. WHY ARE WE NOT USING INMATES ANYMORE TO ADDRESS SOME OF THESE ISSUES? GOOD QUESTION. I MEAN, WELL, WE WERE USING. WE HAD FOUR INMATE CREWS. UH BEFORE. UM THEN WE GOT COVID HEAD AND AH, THEY WERE GROUNDED BASICALLY. AND IT WENT IN, AND THEY WERE. WE WERE RELYING ON INMATE CREWS, TOO. INSTEAD OF JUST GOING AROUND PICKING UP TRASH, MAKING A CERTAIN AREA BETTER, BUT WE WERE SIGNING 1000 LOTS. YOU KNOW THEY WERE CUTTING 1000 LOTS OF A MONTH TO GO BACK AND WE HAD TO GO PICK THEM UP. WE HAD TO TAKE HIM TO LAUNCH. WE HAD TO DROP THEM BACK OFF. SO IT WASN'T I MEAN, THEY WERE THEY WERE WORTH THEIR WEIGHT IN GOLD. AH YOU KNOW, DOING THE WORK FOR US, BUT IT WASN'T THE MOST EFFICIENT SYSTEM. UH YOU KNOW, GOING BACK SOMETIMES WE HAD SOME MIGHT HAVE RAN. WE HAD TO SHUT THE CREW DOWN SOME WAY TO RUN OFF. WE JUST REPORTED IT. THEY WOULD GO BACK JOB US, AND THEN THERE WAS WE GOT FULLY STAFFED WHEN WE COULD GO IN ADDRESS THESE YEAR ROUND TWO. TO DO IT, AND THAT'S HOW WE GOT OUR ANNUAL CUT LISTS UP TO 1500 SO THAT WE COULD YOU KNOW, THOSE ARE THE WORST OF THE WORST PROPERTIES THAT WE'VE BEEN CUTTING. SO WE DON'T HAVE TO SEND INSPECTOR OUT AND REFER IT. WHAT'S ON HER LIST ONLY SCHEDULED. WE'RE GOING BACK AND AROUND. AND CUTTING THOSE WE'VE INCREASED EACH YEAR. HAVE THERE BEEN ANY ANY DISCUSSION ABOUT REINSTATING THIS PROGRAM FOR THE IN MEXICO? IS THIS THIS BENEFITS MORE THAN JUST YOU GUYS? IT DOES BENEFIT THE INMATE. AS FAR AS I'M LEARNING AND GETTING A BREATH OF FRESH AIR AND I MEAN, I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE PROGRAM. I HAVEN'T REACHED OUT AND CORRECTIONS TO SEE BUT THEY YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S BEEN UNDERSTAFFED AND IT TAKES NO STAFF TO GO OUT. WE WOULD WE'VE REUSED THAT EQUIPMENT THAT THEY WERE USING, SO TAKE ADDITIONAL EQUIPMENT TO BE ABLE TO GET A CREW BACK OUT. BUT I MEAN, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE CAN LOOK BACK INTO. THANK YOU DO HELP THE COMMUNITY. ONE LAST THING, UM I'M GONNA SAY THIS PUBLICLY IF YOU WOULD PLEASE INSTRUCT YOUR INSPECTORS NOT TO EVER GIVE A COUNSELOR. PERSON'S NAME IS THE REASON FOR CITING SOMEONE. AND SAID HAS HAPPENED BEFORE. THAT IS DANGEROUS. TO TELL SOMEONE THAT YOU'RE GETTING READY TO CITE THAT. COUNCILWOMAN JONES TOLD ME TO COME BACK HERE AND SITE YOU. I THANK YOU FOR PERSON EVER DOES IT AGAIN, IN MY OPINION THAT THAT SHOULD BE GROUNDS FOR TERMINATING THEIR EMPLOYMENT WITH THE CITY OF LOUISVILLE CAN SAY, SAY THIS, AND I EXPLAINED THAT TO YOU. BUT WE TRAIN OUR STAFF NOT TO USE THAT TO TELL ANY COMPLAINT WHO'S COMPLAINED. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHO COMPLAINED HOWEVER, UM NO. I CAN SAY THAT IT WAS THE LEAST REITERATED THAT I'VE TALKED TO HIM SEVERAL TIMES. IT IS IN YOU KNOW THAT THAT'S BROUGHT ACROSS STAFF, SO IT AH! SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES OUR MEETING[Adjournment Note: Agendas are followed at the discretion of the Chair. While an item may be listed, it does not mean all items will be heard and/or acted upon by the Committee.]
. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE.