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HELLO. SEE.

GREAT. FIVE.

METRO TV WILL BE STARTING IN 30S.

I'M FEELING PARCHED.

YOU HAVE NO ONE ELSE. GOOD AFTERNOON.

THIS IS THE REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT AUDIT AND APPOINTMENTS COMMITTEE.

COUNCILWOMAN CINDY FOWLER.

I'M THE CHAIR OF THIS COMMITTEE.

I'M JOINED TODAY BY MY VICE CHAIR, KEVIN CRAMER.

IN CHAMBERS.

I HAVE COUNCILWOMAN DONNA PURVIS.

COUNCILMAN BEN RENA WEBBER ONLINE.

I HAVE GOT COUNCILMAN BENSON COUNCILMAN.

WELL, I SAW SCOTT REED THERE FOR A SECOND.

DO WE STILL HAVE A QUORUM? YES, MA'AM. OKAY.

COUNCILMAN KUMAR RASHAD HAS A AN EXCUSED ABSENCE.

SCOTT REED HAS JOINED WITH US.

WE HAVE TEN APPOINTMENTS, AND THEN WE HAVE A SPECIAL DISCUSSION, INVESTIGATIVE UPDATE ON THE CORRECTIONS.

INVESTIGATION. SO WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THE APPOINTMENTS FIRST AND WHO DO WE HAVE HERE, I GUESS.

MS.. MADER ARE YOU HERE TO REPLACE OF MS..

JACKSON NO, IT'S ME.

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NOPE. NOPE.

OH, I SEE YOU. THANK YOU.

NEVER MIND. OKAY, SO THE FIRST ITEM IS AP041923 MS APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL. SCHNELL, SCHNELL.

SCHNELL. SCHNELL, SCHNELL.

THANK YOU.

TO THE TARC BOARD.

TERM EXPIRES AUGUST 31ST, 2025.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? SO MOVED. PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.

MS.. COUTURE. COUTURE.

MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF MICHAEL SCHNEIRLA TO THE BOARD TO FILL VACANCIES ON THE BOARD.

HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF OPERATIONS FOR THE OPEN MOBILITY FOUNDATION.

HE LIVES IN DISTRICT EIGHT.

HE IS EXCITED TO PARTICIPATE ON THE BOARD AND IS IN CHAMBERS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

I FAILED TO MENTION THAT COUNCILMAN DAN STAM HAS JOINED US.

THANK YOU. AND COUNCILMAN RICK BLACKWELL AND COUNCILWOMAN JENNIFER CHAPPELL.

MM. UM.

OKAY. SO IS MICHAEL IS HERE WITH US.

WOULD YOU LIKE TO COME TO THE PODIUM, SIR? THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION.

YEAH. COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OVERVIEW ON YOUR INTEREST IN THE CHALKBOARD? YES. MY NAME IS MICHAEL SCHNEIRLA.

I'M A DIRECTOR OF OPEN SOURCE OPERATIONS FOR THE OPEN MOBILITY FOUNDATION.

IT'S A NONPROFIT.

IT'S IN THE MOBILITY SPACE, AND IT'S A SPACE I'VE BEEN WORKING IN OFF AND ON FOR THE LAST 12 YEARS, USUALLY AROUND SCOOTERS, BIKESHARE SOME OTHER SHARED MOBILITY LIKE TAXIS.

AND SO TRANSIT FOR ME IS A TANGENTAL AREA THAT I'D LIKE TO SEE IMPROVED IN LOUISVILLE IN PARTICULAR FOR THE CITY.

I THINK IT HAS A LOT OF POTENTIAL.

I'VE BEEN A TARC RIDER SINCE I WAS IN HIGH SCHOOL AND AND STILL RIDE IT.

SO I'M VERY INTERESTED IN BEING ON THE BOARD TO HELP MOVE IT FORWARD HOWEVER I CAN.

THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? I'M LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER I'VE GOT ANYONE IN THE QUEUE.

MADAM CHAIR, THIS IS.

YES, COUNCILMAN. I'M HAVING TROUBLE, FOR WHATEVER REASON ON ONLINE OR ON THE LAPTOP WITH QUEUING.

AND I DO HAVE A QUESTION.

SURE. YES.

OKAY. I'M ON THE PERSONS FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES COMMISSION AND THE CURRENT SITUATION WITH TARC WITH REGARD TO THE DISABLED IS NOT GOOD.

AND I'M JUST WANT TO GET YOUR TAKE ON YOUR OPINION OF OF TARC AS A WHOLE WITH REGARD TO THE DISABLED COMMUNITY AND WHAT AREAS YOU THINK COULD BE IMPROVED. YEAH, I FIRST OF ALL THINK THAT DISABLED ACCESS ON TRANSIT IS VERY IMPORTANT.

IT'S ESSENTIAL. IT'S A LOT OF TIMES THE PEOPLE THAT ARE DISABLED ARE NOT ABLE TO DRIVE A CAR OR A BIKE OR SOME OTHER SORT OF VEHICLE.

SO ACCESS TO TRANSIT IS IMPORTANT.

WHAT I KNOW OF TARC AND DISABLED RIDERSHIP AND RIDERS IS JUST FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCE BEING ON THE BUSSES AT THIS POINT. SO I WOULD SAY, YOU KNOW, I SEE PEOPLE COMING ON AND OFF IN A RELATIVELY SLOW WAY WITH THE WHEELCHAIR LIFTS AND TRYING TO ANCHOR THEMSELVES TO THE EDGES OF THE FRONT OF THE BUS.

I FEEL LIKE THAT COULD BE IMPROVED, BUT I'M NOT TOTALLY FAMILIAR WITH WHERE THE OTHER GAPS ARE.

BUT I THINK THAT WOULD BE A GREAT PRIORITY FOR THE BOARD OR FOR TARC TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES AND MAKE IT BETTER FOR DISABLED RIDERS.

OKAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I KNOW THAT'S A NEED THAT I'VE HEARD QUITE A BIT ABOUT, SO I APPRECIATE YOUR INTEREST IN THAT.

COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR.

I WANTED TO TALK ABOUT STARKS BEHAVIOR IN THE PAST, AND THERE ARE TIMES WHEN THERE ARE ISSUES WITH LEADERSHIP AT TAKW.

SOME OF THE EMPLOYEES HAVE REACHED OUT TO A FEW OF OF US HERE ON THE COUNCIL THAT THEY ARE NOT BEING HEARD.

THERE'S A LOT OF DISPARITIES GOING ON.

AND SO I JUST WANTED TO GET YOUR TAKE ON THAT.

AND ALSO IN ADDITION TO THAT, RECENTLY THERE WAS AN ACCIDENT OR INCIDENT WITH ONE OF THE BUS DRIVERS WAS HIT BY A STRAY BULLET WHILE DRIVING.

AND THIS DRIVER APPARENTLY DOESN'T FEEL THAT SHE'S REALLY GOTTEN ANY SUPPORT FROM HER EMPLOYER, THAT BENCHMARK.

SO I WANTED TO KNOW IF YOU COULD COMMENT ON THOSE TWO ITEMS, PLEASE.

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THANK YOU.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, FIRST TO LEADERSHIP.

I THINK THAT IN ORDER TO RUN A SUCCESSFUL TRANSIT AGENCY, YOU NEED GOOD LEADERSHIP, NOT JUST FROM THE OPERATIONAL PERSPECTIVE, FROM AN INTERPERSONAL PERSPECTIVE AS WELL. I KNOW THERE HAVE BEEN ISSUES IN THE PAST.

AS A BOARD MEMBER, I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT MY ROLE WOULD BE ON THE BOARD AND HOW IT CONNECTS TO THE REST OF THE LEADERSHIP AND THE, YOU KNOW, ORGANIZATION. BUT I WOULD MAKE MYSELF AVAILABLE TO ANYONE WHO WANTS TO RAISE ISSUES AND MAYBE THROUGH THE BOARD WE CAN TRY TO ELEVATE THEM TO OTHER LEADERSHIP AND AND PEOPLE AT TARC.

I MEAN, I PERSONALLY WOULD NOT STAND FOR ANYTHING THAT LOOKS INAPPROPRIATE AND WOULD REPORT THAT IMMEDIATELY.

SO THAT'S WHAT I CAN SAY ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP FOR THE INCIDENT WITH SAFETY OF THE DRIVER.

I THINK, OF COURSE, THAT'S IMPORTANT.

I THINK TARC REALLY NEEDS TO SUPPORT ITS DRIVERS.

I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT LET'S TALK OPERATE THE WAY IT SHOULD IN A IN A GOOD WAY.

WE NEED MORE DRIVERS.

WE NEED, I THINK, TO PAY THEM WELL.

FUNDING, OF COURSE, IS AN ISSUE AND SOMETHING THAT I HOPE I CAN AFFECT WHEN I'M ON THE BOARD.

BUT THE SAFETY OF THAT INDIVIDUAL AND ALL THE DRIVERS IS IMPORTANT.

SO IF THEY'RE NOT BEING HEARD, I HOPE THAT THE BOARD HAS SOME PLACE IN THE DISCUSSION TO ELEVATE THOSE NEEDS AND CONCERNS AND MAKE SURE THAT ANYONE WHO IS INJURED WHILE ON THE JOB HAS WHAT THEY NEED TO RECOVER AND AND GET BACK TO THE JOB AT HAND IF THEY WANT TO.

THANK YOU. AND COUNCILWOMAN CHAPEL.

I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING HERE TODAY.

AND I ALSO WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR ASKING QUESTIONS BECAUSE IT IS SO IMPORTANT THAT WE KNOW WHO WE'RE PUTTING ON THESE BOARDS.

AND I JUST WANT TO COMMEND YOU FOR COMING DOWN HERE AND MAKING TIME FOR US BECAUSE IT'S IMPORTANT.

SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU.

I'M HAPPY TO BE HERE IN PERSON.

COUNCIL. COUNCILMAN RENA WEBER I THINK TO COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL'S POINT, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

AND ALSO I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALL THE VOLUNTEER SERVICE THAT YOU HAVE PUT INTO MAKING OUR COMMUNITY BETTER.

OVER THE LAST DECADE, YOU HAVE BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN MANY, MANY INITIATIVES, PROVIDING DATA AND YOUR INSIGHT INTO HOW WE CAN MAKE A BETTER COMMUNITY.

SO I'M VERY EXCITED TO HAVE YOU ON THE BOARD.

IT'S SUCH AN IMPORTANT PART OF OUR COMMUNITY AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.

THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY ANYONE ELSE THAT NEEDS TO QUESTION OR.

OKAY. SEEING NONE.

THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT THAT WILL CAUSE FOR A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE, AYE.

OKAY. NAYS LIKE SIGN.

SO THIS WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

THANK YOU, SIR, FOR BEING HERE TODAY.

THANK YOU. UM, ITEM NUMBER TWO IS APP 041923.

JJ'S APPOINTMENT OF JOSEPH SCOTT TO THE TREE ADVISORY COMMITTEE TERM EXPIRES NOVEMBER 29TH, 2024.

DO I HEAR A MOTION SO MOVED PURVIS PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.

MISS. MISS CARTER.

SO TOMORROW, MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE, WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF JOSEPH SCOTT.

HE HAS LIVED IN LOUISVILLE FOR 64 YEARS.

HE OWNS JOE ASH CONSTRUCTION AND LIVES IN DISTRICT FIVE.

HE HAS CONSULTED WITH CUSTOMERS ON REMOVAL AND PLANTING OF TREES AND WORKS WITH TREES.

LOUISVILLE THANK YOU FOR THAT.

IS THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? LET ME LOOK ONE MORE TIME AND MAKE SURE THAT I DON'T HAVE ANY SPEAKERS.

OKAY. SO WITH NO QUESTIONS, NO ONE IN THE QUEUE.

THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT THAT CALLS FOR A ROLE.

I'M NOT A ROLE CALL, BUT A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. AYE.

AYE. NOSEBAND LIKE SIGN.

THIS ALSO WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ADAM NUMBER THREE IS 041923S.

S APPOINTMENT OF SHAMIR SHAH TO THE GREATER LOUISVILLE LODGING MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BOARD.

TERM EXPIRES MAY 1ST, 2025.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION. PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED IS BEFORE US.

MS.. KATSURA. KATSURA AMARO MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF SAMIR SHAH TO THE GREATER LOUISVILLE LODGING MANAGEMENT DISTRICT BOARD.

SHE LIVES WELL.

THEY LIVE IN LOUISVILLE, HAVE LIVED IN LOUISVILLE FOR 15 YEARS AND ARE A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 15.

SAMIR HAS OVER 20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN HOSPITALITY AND LODGING.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? LOOKING ONE MORE TIME TO.

OKAY, NO ONE'S IN THE QUEUE.

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THIS ALSO CALLS FOR AN APPOINTMENT THAT CALLS FOR.

A VOICE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. NOS.

LIKE SIGN.

THIS TOO, SHALL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ITEM NUMBER FOUR APP 052423.

APPOINTMENT OF TIMOTHY FINDLEY TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION TERM EXPIRES DECEMBER 31ST, 2024.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION. SECOND.

PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.

THIS IS BEFORE US.

MS.. KATSURA.

KATSURA. MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF TIMOTHY FINDLEY TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE COMMISSION.

HE HAS LIVED IN LOUISVILLE FOR 43 YEARS.

HE HAS BEEN THE SENIOR PASTOR OF KINGDOM FELLOWSHIP FOR 15 YEARS AND IS THE CURRENT CEO OF ELDER SERVE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO ONE'S IN THE QUEUE.

THIS, TOO, CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. AYE.

NOS. BY, LIKE, SIGN.

THIS ALSO WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

ITEM NUMBER FIVE IS AP 052423.

AC APPOINTMENT OF AMANDA CORSINI TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL TERM EXPIRES APRIL 26TH, 2025.

DO I HEAR A MOTION MOTION, PURVIS? SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT. PROBABLY MOVED IN BEFORE US.

MS.. KATSURA. KATSURA CATEMARIO MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE.

WE ARE LOOKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF AMANDA CORAZZINI TO THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PREVENTION COORDINATING COUNCIL.

AMANDA HAS RESIDED IN LOUISVILLE FOR 15 YEARS.

SHE IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 16 AND THE NURSE MANAGER FOR THE SAFE SERVICES AT U OF L HOSPITAL.

AMANDA ADDITIONALLY SERVES AS THE VICE CHAIR OF THE NATIVITY ACADEMY AND A VOLUNTEER TROOP LEADER FOR GIRL SCOUTS OF AMERICA.

THANK YOU.

ANY QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THIS IS AN APPOINTMENT THAT CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SIGNIFY BY SAYING AYE.

AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? HEARING NONE. THE AYES HAVE IT.

MOVING ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.

AND THAT WILL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

MADAM CLERK, I'D LIKE TO TAKE SIX, SEVEN AND 8 IN 1.

IS THAT OKAY? SO JUST READ OFF THREE.

YES, PLEASE READ ALL THREE INTO THE RECORD.

OKAY, SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE SIX, SEVEN AND EIGHT ALL TOGETHER.

THIS IS 052423 REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT DICKENS TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW AND ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.

TERM EXPIRES MARCH THE 25TH, 2026.

ITEM NUMBER 7P052423D IS A REAPPOINTMENT OF DENISE SEARS TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW AND ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.

TERM EXPIRES MARCH 25TH, 2026.

ITEM NUMBER 8052.

423. REAPPOINTMENT OF BARBARA HAGLER TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW AND ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.

TERM EXPIRES MARCH 25TH, 2026.

DO I HEAR A MOTION MOTION? SECOND. PROPERLY MOVED IN A SECOND AND MISS KATAURA CATEURA MARIO MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF SCOTT DICKENS TO THE CIVILIAN REVIEW AND ACCOUNTABILITY BOARD.

SCOTT HAS RESIDED IN LOUISVILLE FOR 52 YEARS AND LIVES IN DISTRICT 16.

HE HAS A JURIS DOCTORATE FROM THE BRANDEIS SCHOOL OF LAW.

HE WAS AN INAUGURAL MEMBER AND CHAIR FOR THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE MERIT BOARD, APPOINTED BY MAYOR JERRY ABRAMSON.

AND HE IS READY TO CONTINUE NAVIGATING THE SERIOUS AND COMPLEX MATTERS OF POLICING AND COMMUNITY.

DENISE SEARS IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT EIGHT.

SHE IS THE PRESIDENT AND CEO FOR SOS INTERNATIONAL.

DENISE HAS OVER TWO DECADES OF OPERATIONAL OPTIMIZATION FOR CORPORATE AND NONPROFIT ORGANIZATIONS.

DENISE IS CIVIC AND VOLUNTEER DUTIES ARE JUST AS ROBUST AS HER PROFESSIONAL CAREER.

BARBARA HAGLER IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT ONE AND IS THE PASTOR OF BROADWAY TEMPLE AME ZION CHURCH.

BARBARA HAS BEEN A RESIDENT OF LOUISVILLE FOR THE PAST TEN YEARS AND SERVES ON THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS FOR INTERDENOMINATIONAL MINISTERIAL COALITION.

THANK YOU.

IS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? I'M LOOKING.

NO ONE. OKAY.

SEEING NONE.

THIS. THIS CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE.

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NAYS LIKE SIGN.

SO THESE WILL ALL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

NUMBER NINE IS AP 052423JM APPOINTMENT OF JEFF MOSLEY TO THE METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT MSD BOARD TERM EXPIRES JULY 31ST, 2026.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION SECOND.

PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED.

MISS KATARA TSURUMARU MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF JEFF MOSLEY TO THE METROPOLITAN SEWER DISTRICT BOARD.

JEFF IS A LONGTIME RESIDENT OF LOUISVILLE, HAVING LIVED HERE FOR 55 YEARS.

JEFF IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT SEVEN.

JEFF IS CURRENTLY THE CEO FOR HOLLENBECK OAKLEY LLC, A COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE FIRM HERE LOCALLY.

THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? NO. ONE IN THE QUEUE.

THIS ALSO CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. NAY.

NO'S BY A LIKE SIGN THIS AS WELL.

WE'LL GO TO THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

THE FINAL APPOINTMENT TODAY IS APP 024.

I'M SORRY. 052423.

VIC APPOINTMENT OF DEAN KAPLAN TO THE NEWLY REVIEW OVERLAY DISTRICT COMMITTEE TERM EXPIRES FEBRUARY 26TH, 2026.

DO I HEAR A MOTION? MOTION. PROBABLY MOVED AND SECONDED IS BEFORE US.

MS.. MORRELL. KAZOORA MORRELL MAYOR GREENBERG'S OFFICE.

WE ARE ASKING FOR THE APPOINTMENT OF A DEAN CAPLAN TO THE NULU OVERLAY DISTRICT COMMITTEE.

MR. CAPLAN HAS LIVED IN LOUISVILLE FOR 31 YEARS AND IS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT NINE.

MR. CAPLAN HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL GOVERNMENT PROJECTS THAT RANGE FROM ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES, SINGLE AND MULTI FAMILY HOUSING AND COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES. THANK YOU.

ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE? COUNCILWOMAN CHAPPELL.

I'M GOING TO ASSUME NOT. BUT IS THIS PERSON ANY RELATION OF ANY RELATION TO ANYONE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE? I DO NOT BELIEVE SO.

I DON'T BELIEVE SO. I THINK THAT WHEN I CAME UP, WHEN THEY WERE DOING THE REVIEW, YOU WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.

NO. DO YOU OR A MEMBER OF YOUR IMMEDIATE FAMILY? NO. HE IS NOT.

THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE FROM THE COMMITTEE? OKAY. THIS TOO CALLS FOR A VOICE VOTE.

ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.

AYE. AYE. AYE.

NOS. LIKE, SIGN THIS AS WELL.

WE'LL GO TO THE THE CONSENT CALENDAR.

SO OUR NEXT ITEM IS SPECIAL DISCUSSION ITEM ID 230003 CORRECTIONS INVESTIGATION UPDATE.

MR. DAVID BUYER IS HERE WITH US TO GO OVER THAT.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE, SIR.

IF YOU COULD INTRODUCE YOURSELF WHEN YOU START TO SPEAK, PLEASE.

HELLO. MY NAME IS DAVID.

BUYER. BUYER.

WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO BEGIN? IF YOU WILL, PLEASE.

OKAY. SO I'VE BEEN HERE TWICE BEFORE TO GIVE A REPORT ON THE INVESTIGATION AT THE CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT.

THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I SUBMITTED THE REPORT, WHICH WAS RATHER VOLUMINOUS, AND I THINK THE COUNCIL OR THE BOARD HAS HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW THAT.

AND I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T THINK IT'S TIME WORTHY TO GO THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT I'VE SAID IN THE PAST.

I WILL FOCUS ON A COUPLE OF QUICK THINGS, THOUGH.

IN THE REPORT.

I HAVE A LIST OF PRIORITIES THAT I THINK SHOULD BE CONSIDERED, AND ONE OF THEM OBVIOUSLY IS THE JAIL ITSELF.

AND SINCE THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I'VE SEEN VARIOUS MEDIA REPORTS CONCERNING THAT.

AND AGAIN, I WANT TO STRESS SOMETHING THAT I HAVE MENTIONED IN THE PAST, AND THAT IS.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING AND I SAY WE THE LOUISVILLE'S BEEN TALKING ABOUT BUILDING A NEW JAIL FOR A LONG TIME.

IN 2016, THERE WAS A REPORT THAT SAID THAT IT NEEDED TO BE BUILT AND GAVE MANY VALID REASONS, WHICH IN MY INVESTIGATION WERE CONFIRMED, AND THINGS HAVE WORSENED SINCE 2016.

AND. AGAIN.

IN A PERFECT WORLD, WE WOULDN'T HAVE TO INCARCERATE ANYONE.

BUT WE DON'T LIVE IN THAT WORLD.

AND THE REALITY IS WE HAVE PEOPLE THAT VIOLATE THE LAW ARE DANGEROUS AND NEED TO BE PUT SOMEWHERE.

ANOTHER REALITY IS WE DON'T HAVE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR PEOPLE THAT HAVE MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, AND THUS THEY GO TO THE JAIL.

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AND FOR ANYONE THAT'S BEEN IN THE JAIL, YOU CAN SEE THAT IT IS NOT A PLACE FOR PEOPLE WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES.

UH. THE LOUISVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I'M GOING TO DIGRESS A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT'LL CIRCLE BACK TO THE CORRECTIONS.

THE LOUISVILLE POLICE DEPARTMENT, IN MY OPINION, IS A GREAT POLICE DEPARTMENT.

I KNOW A LOT OF OFFICERS FROM STREET OFFICERS ALL THE WAY UP TO THE COMMAND STAFF.

I TEACH AT THE UNIVERSITY OF LOUISVILLE IN THE SOUTHERN POLICE INSTITUTE, AND I'VE TAUGHT MANY LOUISVILLE POLICE OFFICERS IN THAT PROGRAM.

I'VE TAUGHT POLICE OFFICERS FROM ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

NEVER DID I THINK THAT THE LOUISVILLE METRO POLICE WOULD BECOME COME UNDER THE SCRUTINY OF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE AND ULTIMATELY HAVE TO ABIDE BY A CONSENT DECREE.

BUT I THINK WE'D BE VERY NAIVE TO THINK THAT THAT COULDN'T HAPPEN TO METRO CORRECTIONS.

AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE FBI HAS HAD SOME INVESTIGATIONS OF ISSUES AT METRO CORRECTIONS.

THE FBI WORKS VERY CLOSELY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

AND I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO GIVE STRONG CONSIDERATION TO BUILDING A NEW FACILITY FOR ALL THE REASONS SET FORTH IN THE REPORT.

NOW THE NEXT ITEM IS STAFFING.

STAFFING IS WOEFULLY IS A HUGE PROBLEM AT CORRECTIONS.

AND AS I SAID IN THE REPORT, WE HAVE ONE OFFICER DOING ALL THE RECRUITING.

I SPOKE TO HIM LAST WEEK AND HE STATED THAT HE REALLY COULD USE ADDITIONAL HELP.

AND THAT'S SOMETHING I MENTIONED IN THE REPORT AND RECOMMENDED IN THE REPORT.

I WANT TO GIVE CREDIT TO DIRECTOR COLLINS REGARDING THAT.

HE HAS PUT SOME EMPHASIS ON THAT ON THE RECRUITING PIECE.

THE RECRUITING OFFICER HAS BEEN GIVEN A BRAND NEW VEHICLE THAT'S VERY PROFESSIONAL LOOKING.

AND HE TOLD ME THAT WHEN HE GOES OUT TO CAREER FAIRS OR JOB FAIRS, PEOPLE HAVE REMARKED ABOUT, WOW, THIS IS A REALLY PROFESSIONAL LOOKING VEHICLE.

AND SO WHEN I FIRST STARTED THIS INVESTIGATION OVER A YEAR AGO, THE VEHICLES THAT CORRECTIONS HAD WERE HAND-ME-DOWN OLD RELICS. AND TO SEND SOMEBODY OUT TO DO RECRUITING WITH VEHICLES LIKE THAT WOULD BE VERY COUNTERPRODUCTIVE TO WHAT HE'S TRYING SHOULD BE DOING.

SO I APPLAUD DIRECTOR COLLINS FOR DOING THAT.

BUT AGAIN, RECRUITING IS SOMETHING WE REALLY NEED TO FOCUS ON.

THE NEXT AREA THAT I WANT TO STRESS IS THE THE ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE.

THERE'S BEEN A LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY.

I THINK DIRECTOR COLLINS IS MAKING GREAT STRIDES IN THAT AREA.

AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I MENTIONED IN THE REPORT, AGAIN, IS THE LEADERSHIP ITSELF.

I THINK DIRECTOR COLLINS AND HIS TEAM HAVE DONE A GREAT JOB OF CORRECTING MANY OF THE PROBLEMS THAT HAVE EXISTED FOR MANY YEARS.

THERE'S A LOT OF WORK YET TO BE DONE.

AND AS I TOLD DIRECTOR COLLINS RECENTLY, I SAID HE'S LIKE THE CAPTAIN OF THE TITANIC.

WHEN HE TOOK OVER, THERE WERE A LOT OF PROBLEMS WITH CORRECTIONS AND HE HAD TO TRY TO FIX THE BIG LEAK, WHICH WAS ALL THE DEATHS THAT WERE OCCURRING.

BUT THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER PROBLEMS AT CORRECTIONS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, AND IT'S DIFFICULT FOR ONE MAN TO DO THE MICROMANAGEMENT.

AND THAT'S WHY I THINK HAVING AN INVESTIGATION LIKE THIS IS BENEFICIAL BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT STAFFING ISSUES.

I DIDN'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT ALL THE THINGS THAT HE HAS TO WORRY ABOUT ON THE DAY TO DAY BASIS.

AND I WAS ABLE TO DO A DEEP DIVE ON A LOT OF AREAS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED TO CORRECT A LOT OF THE PROBLEMS AND MAKE THIS ENTITY RUN EFFICIENTLY AND EFFECTIVELY.

THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO MENTION IS THAT THE MEDICAL PIECE.

NEEDS TO BE CLOSELY LOOKED AT.

THERE WERE DEFICIENCIES IN THE RECORD KEEPING.

THE. LACK OF COMMUNICATIONS BETWEEN THE MEDICAL TEAM AND THE OFFICERS.

THERE WASN'T A LIKE A IN A HOSPITAL YOU HAVE A CODE BLUE OR WHERE THERE'S AN EMERGENCY, YOU CAN CALL EVERYBODY.

THEY DIDN'T HAVE THAT SYSTEM IN THE JAIL.

THE NURSES DID NOT HAVE COMMUNICATIONS, WHICH SLOWED THE RESPONSE IN SOME OF THESE SITUATIONS.

SO I THINK, AGAIN, AS NOTED IN THE REPORT, THERE ARE A LOT OF RECOMMENDATIONS DEALING WITH THE MEDICAL PIECE THAT I THINK SHOULD BE REVIEWED.

AND AGAIN, MY REPORT HAS A LONG LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS.

I DON'T WANT TO WASTE YOUR TIME GOING THROUGH THOSE, BUT I DID WANT TO BE HERE TODAY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE AFTER REVIEWING THE REPORT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT.

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SO I DON'T SEE ANYONE IN THE QUEUE.

WELL, WAIT A MINUTE.

I HAVEN'T CLICKED IN THE RIGHT PLACE.

COUNCIL COUNCILWOMAN PURVIS.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AGAIN, MR. BEYER. I WANTED TO BRIEFLY TALK ABOUT THE MEDICAL RECOMMENDATIONS.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT THE NORM LIKE YOU WOULD SEE IN A HOSPITAL.

AS YOU MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE IS AN EMERGENCY TO ALERT.

HAVE YOU MADE ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE FACILITY? JUST TO SHARE WITH HIM THE.

THAT NEEDS TO BE ENHANCEMENT IN THE MEDICAL PROCEDURES OR AT LEAST ALERTING STAFF THAT THERE IS A MEDICAL EMERGENCY? ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO STRESS IS THROUGHOUT THE INVESTIGATION, I'VE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH DIRECTOR COLLINS.

HE'S BEEN VERY ACCESSIBLE.

WE'VE HAD MANY, I THINK, GREAT DISCUSSIONS.

IN FACT, WE SPOKE OVER THE WEEKEND CONCERNING MY APPEARANCE HERE TODAY AND SOME THINGS THAT HE'S DONE SINCE I ISSUED THE REPORT.

THE REPORT GOES THROUGH THESE COMMUNICATION ISSUES THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE.

REALLY, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE A RADIO THAT EVERYONE CAN TALK TO, EVERYBODY IN THE JAIL.

IF IF A NURSE IS HAVING PROBLEMS, SAFETY ISSUES, SHE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP THAT RADIO CALL FOR HELP.

SIMILARLY, IF A CORRECTIONS OFFICER NEEDS MEDICAL STAFF, THEY OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO PICK UP THE RADIO AND GET SOMEBODY THERE RIGHT AWAY.

AND AGAIN, THERE SHOULD BE SOME MECHANISM TO ALERT EVERYONE TO A PROBLEM, A MEDICAL PROBLEM WITHIN THE FACILITY.

AND THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN DISCUSSED WITH DIRECTOR COLLINS.

AND I KNOW THAT HE HAS TAKEN THESE ISSUES SERIOUSLY AND HAS TOLD ME THAT HE'S GOING TO ADDRESS THOSE THINGS.

BUT AGAIN, PART OF THAT HAS TO DEAL WITH THE MEDICAL CONTRACT THAT CORRECTIONS HAS THE CURRENT COMPANY, WELLPATH.

THOSE ARE DISCUSSIONS THAT WOULD HAVE TO BE HAD WITH THEM AS WELL.

IS THE COMPANY THAT IS THERE PROVIDING MEDICAL CARE.

HAS THIS COMPANY BEEN THERE? WERE THEY THERE BEFORE? DIRECTOR COLLINS ASSUMED THAT ROLE? YES. OKAY.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU.

SO IS THERE SOMEONE HERE FROM THE JAIL THAT COULD SPEAK TO THAT? THAT ANY NEW UPDATES THAT MAY HAVE TRANSPIRED? THANK YOU. YES.

GERRY COLLINS, CHIEF.

LOUISVILLE METRO CORRECTIONS.

ARE WE SPEAKING DIRECTLY TO THE MEDICAL? YES, THERE IS RECOMMENDED CHANGES IN ADDITION TO THE RADIOS.

THERE WERE THINGS THAT WE RECOGNIZED IMMEDIATELY THAT WE COULD FIX.

SO IN CONJUNCTION WITH OUR MEDICAL PROVIDER, WE DID AN AMENDMENT TO THE CONTRACT.

SO ONE OF THE COUPLE HUGE THREE HUGE CHANGES THAT THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED.

ONE IS FRONT END.

WHEN FOLKS COME INTO THE FACILITY, THEY ARE EVALUATED BY A MASTER'S LEVEL MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL.

THAT'S A HUGE DEAL FOR CLASSIFICATION EARLY RECOGNITION.

ONE IS A PRESCRIPTION VERIFICATION APP WHERE INSTEAD OF WHERE IT WOULD TAKE DAYS TO VERIFY YOUR YOUR PRESCRIPTION, WHETHER IT BE MENTAL HEALTH OR MEDICAL, NOW IT'S WITHIN MINUTES.

SO WE CAN DO THAT.

AND THE OTHER ONE IS TELEHEALTH ALLOWED WELLPATH NURSES TO HAVE HOTSPOTS IN THE JAIL.

SO WHEN THEY DO THEIR MEDICAL ROUNDS, WHETHER IT BE REGULAR SICK CALL OR WHATNOT, IF THEY RECOGNIZE SOMETHING, THEY CAN ACCESS A DOCTOR WITHIN TEN MINUTES. THAT'S HUGE.

AND, YOU KNOW, THAT'S UP TO OUR THE AMOUNT OF FOLKS WE'RE HAVING TO SEND TO THE E.R.

BUT YOU CAN'T PUT A PRICE TAG ON ON LIFE SAFETY.

AND WE THAT STARTED IN BEGINNING OF MAY.

IN THAT TIME, THEY USED TELEHEALTH 58 TIMES.

SO THAT'S THAT'S HUGE.

SO NORMALLY YOU'D HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME PROVIDERS IN THE BUILDING FIVE DAYS A WEEK, PARTICULARLY ONE DOCTOR AND SOME OTHER PROVIDERS.

BUT THIS ALLOWS REAL TIME QUICKER THAN YOU AND I WOULD GO TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM AND SEE A DOCTOR.

THIS ALLOWS FOLKS TO SEE A DOCTOR IN REAL TIME 24 HOURS A DAY.

SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT TELEHEALTH HAS BEEN USED 58 TIMES THIS MONTH SINCE MAY? YES. WOW. GOOD.

GOOD DEAL. COUNCILMAN REED, THANK YOU.

YOU'RE WELCOME. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

AND ALONG THE LINES OF MENTAL HEALTH, WHAT IS THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE INCARCERATED THAT YOU WOULD CLASSIFY AS HAVING A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES? TRADITIONALLY IN CORRECTIONAL FACILITIES, THERE'S USUALLY FROM 30 TO 40% OF FOLKS EITHER COMING IN WITH MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES OR DUAL DIAGNOSIS, WHETHER IT BE

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MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER.

SO THERE IS A LOT. NOW, SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH IS A LOWER PERCENTAGE, PROBABLY ONLY RUN ABOUT 10%.

BUT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT OVERALL MENTAL HEALTH.

USUALLY 30 TO 40% OF FOLKS THAT ARE INCARCERATED.

AND THIS IS DETERMINED BY THE MENTAL HEALTH EXAMINATION AS THEY ARE ADMITTED IN.

YOU SAID THAT I THINK THE WORD WAS THAT YOU HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL THAT EVALUATES THEM.

YES. STARTING APPROXIMATELY A MONTH AGO, WE WAS ABLE TO TAKE A MODEL FROM NASHVILLE AND WELLPATH WAS ABLE TO WORK WITH ME TO RESTRUCTURE SOME SOME STAFFING MATRIX. SO WE HAVE A MASTER'S LEVEL MENTAL HEALTH PERSON AT THE FRONT END ON THE BOOKING FLOOR.

SO EVERYONE THAT COMES IN BEFORE THE CLASSIFIED WILL BE WILL SEE A MASTER'S LEVEL MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL.

AND DO THESE INMATES RECEIVE SPECIAL SCRUTINY BECAUSE OF THIS DIAGNOSIS? ABSOLUTELY. WHEN I'M SPEAKING OF CLASSIFICATION, THAT'S GOING TO DETERMINE WHERE THEY'RE HOUSED, NOT IN HIGH RISK AREAS AND LOWER RISK AREAS.

AS MR. BYERS POINTED OUT, THE JAIL IS NOT DESIGNED TO BE A MENTAL HEALTH FACILITY.

SO WE'VE HAD TO DO A LOT OF THINGS, RETROFIT 15 SUICIDE RESISTANT CELLS.

WE HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH AREA IN THE JAIL SO SEVERE WHERE SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH FOLKS WOULD GO THERE WITH SUICIDE RESISTANT CELLS ALSO.

OKAY. THANKS VERY MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME, SIR. THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN. PARVUS.

YOU CAN GO AHEAD AND LET COUNCILMAN KRAMER ASK AND I'LL COME UP TO HIM.

COUNCILMAN KRAMER THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.

I WAS WONDERING IF YOU COULD I KNOW THAT WHEN THE REPORT FIRST CAME OUT AND COUNCIL MEMBERS HAD A CHANCE TO READ IT, I'M UP FRONT.

SORRY. I GET LOST ON THESE SCREENS.

I HEAR YOU.

WHEN? WHEN THE REPORT FIRST CAME OUT, SEVERAL OF US EXPRESSED A WILLINGNESS TO MAKE SURE YOU HAD THE RESOURCES THAT YOU NEEDED TO OVERCOME SOME OF WHAT YOU INHERITED.

AND I DON'T NEED NECESSARILY SPECIFICS, BUT KIND OF IN BROAD STROKES.

CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHERE THE CHANGES THAT YOU'VE MADE THAT HAVE REQUIRED THE GREATEST RESOURCES FOR YOU? YES. AND AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, NOT ONLY THE JAIL IS OLD, BUT THE HALL OF JUSTICE IS EVEN OLDER.

SO THAT IS, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU WOULD SEE IN A MOVIE, BARS FOR THE SINGLE CELLS.

SO ONE OF THE BIGGEST PROJECTS WAS COVERING UP OVER 150 CELLS WITH PLEXIGLASS TO REDUCE THE LIKELIHOOD OF COMPLETING A SUICIDE.

THAT IS WHERE THE LAST TWO SUICIDES IN THE JAIL HAVE BEEN FOR THAT.

SO THAT WAS A HUGE PROJECT.

MULTITUDE. I CAN SEND YOU GUYS A HUGE LIST, BUT BIG ONES IS NARCAN BOXES AND ALARMS IN THE DORM UPGRADING TECHNOLOGY ON DETECTION.

ADDING OFFICERS TO OUR INTELLIGENCE UNIT, QUADRUPLING THAT.

THAT'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS BENEFIT.

AND CURRENTLY IN THE CURRENT BUDGET AND WE'VE ALREADY STARTED LAST WEEK.

BUT WE HAVE TO DO SOME CONSTRUCTION ON THE FIFTH FLOOR.

GENERAL POPULATION IS STARTED A DIRECT SUPERVISION MODEL, WHICH IS THE BEST MODEL.

IT'S A HYBRID, OBVIOUSLY BECAUSE OF OUR JAIL, BUT WITH A COUPLE OF WEEKS IN, IT'S WORKING OUT GREAT.

AND THAT'S WHERE FOLKS ROTATE COMING OUT AND HAVING PRO-SOCIAL ACTIVITY, THINGS TO DO, SOCIALIZING AND THEY ROTATE SIDES ON DOING THAT ON FIRST AND SECOND SHIFT. SO THAT IS WORKING OUT REAL WELL.

AND WE'RE CURRENTLY IN THE CURRENT BUDGET ALSO HAVING TO TAKE JUST BE VERY INVENTIVE ON SOME CONSTRUCTION TO CREATE MORE MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH SPACES THAT THEY CAN WORK OUT OF. OUR REAL ESTATE IS VERY FINITE, SO WE'RE CREATING SOME SPACES THERE FOR FOR FOLKS TO SEE MENTAL HEALTH AND MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS AND TO THE SECURITY UPGRADES.

ONE OF THE THINGS WE ALLOWED OFFICERS TO ALL OFFICERS TO HAVE ACCESS TO THE CAMERAS.

SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO UPGRADE AND HAVE BIGGER SCREENS AT THE OFFICER STATIONS THAT'S DOING THE WORK ON THE FLOORS.

BUT TO HAVE ACCESS TO ALL THE CAMERAS ON THEIR FLOORS AND AREAS.

SO YOU'RE JUST PUTTING WHEN YOU'D BE WORKING AT YOUR GENERAL WORK STATION THAT'S THERE.

SO IT'S JUST ANOTHER SET OF EYES INSTEAD OF JUST THE CONTROL ROOM OPERATOR.

YOU HAVE OFFICERS THAT ARE WORKING AND HAVE ACCESS THERE TOO.

THERE'S A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF CHALLENGES AND LIKE MR. BARR SAID, THAT IT'S VERY STAFF INTENSIVE THE WAY THE BUILDING IS BUILT.

SO. AND TO TO ADD TO THAT, WE HAVE ADDED TO TRAINING OFFICERS I ON SOME OF YOUR RECOMMENDATIONS AND WE'VE GOT TRAINING BACK INTO RECRUITMENT ALSO TO HELP OUR RECRUITMENT DEPARTMENT.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WORKING OUT WELL.

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IT'S IT'S VERY TOUGH.

WE HAVE TO THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX EVERY DAY TO TRY TO GET A LITTLE BIT BETTER ON WHAT WE CAN DO AND WHAT THE CHALLENGES WE HAVE RIGHT NOW.

WE CAN TALK ABOUT A NEW JAIL, BUT THAT'S NOT WHAT I HAVE.

WE HAVE AN ANTIQUATED FACILITY, SO WE CAN'T LET THAT STOP US.

SO THAT'S THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO DO RIGHT NOW.

SO, SO FAR, IT SOUNDS LIKE MOSTLY IT'S BEEN CAPITAL.

AND I'VE HEARD YOU MENTION AND I AND I HEARD MR. BIERI SPEAK, TOO, ABOUT THE WAY THAT WE'RE GOING ABOUT RECRUITING.

AND AGAIN, FOR THE SAKE OF FOLKS WHO MIGHT BE LISTENING, YOU'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT IN A VERY DIFFICULT JOB MARKET.

AND ON TOP OF TRYING TO RECRUIT IN A VERY DIFFICULT JOB MARKET, YOU HAD YOU HAD A NUMBER OF SEPARATIONS FROM EMPLOYMENT, JUST PUT IT THAT WAY.

AH, HOW, HOW.

HOW ARE WE? HOW WELL ARE WE PROJECTED TO RECOVER FROM THAT IN THE NEXT NINE MONTHS TO A YEAR? WELL, WE HAVE WE HAVE CHALLENGES.

I GOT BAD NEWS TODAY WHILE I WAS IN A IN A TRAINING EXERCISE OVER AT METRO SAFE.

MY RECRUITMENT TEAM WAS OUT AT A JOB FAIR AND SITTING BESIDE STATE CORRECTIONS.

AND NOW THE GOVERNOR HAS RAISED THAT STARTING, I THINK JUNE 1ST OR JULY 1ST TWO, STARTING WAGES FOR STATE CORRECTIONS OFFICERS AT TWO 2839, WE'RE AT 2175 AND I THINK WE'RE THE FOURTH NOW.

TWO OTHER JAILS, LEXINGTON AND FAYETTE COUNTIES WENT TO, I THINK 2550 AND ANOTHER JAIL THAT SURPASSES, WHEREAS TRADITIONALLY WE WERE THE HIGHEST PAID JAIL IN THE STATE AND NOW WE'RE JUST GOING NOTCHES DOWN.

AND EVERY TIME WE HAVE AN UPCOMING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS STARTING IN JULY.

SO BUT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO RAISE THE PROFESSIONAL PAY FOR PROFESSIONALS.

AND PART OF MR. BAKER'S REPORT AND ME AND HIM SPEAK ON A.

REGULAR BASIS. LIKE I SAID, WE SPOKE THIS WEEKEND IS THE CULTURAL CHANGE AND SOME OF THE THINGS HE'S SAYING ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND WE DID HAVE TO LET SOME FOLKS GO.

AND THAT CULTURE CHANGE TAKES TAKES TIME.

BUT WE DEVELOP A DISCIPLINARY MATRIX THAT IS FAIR ACROSS THE BOARD THAT ALL STAFF CAN SEE ZERO TOLERANCE SEXUAL HARASSMENT POLICY THAT WE DEVELOPED ALONG WITH THE COUNTY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND HR THAT WE INSTITUTED AN ONGOING EMPHASIZING THAT TRAINING.

AND WE'VE HAD TO LET THREE FOLKS GO ON THAT.

SO PART OF THAT CULTURE CHANGE IS ACCOUNTABILITY.

AND HE AND I AGREE.

THAT'S TOUGH PART WHEN WE'RE TRYING TO RECRUIT.

BUT IF WE WANT THE TYPE OF OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES THERE THAT WE WE NEED, ACCOUNTABILITY IS A HUGE PORTION.

LET ME SAY, AT LEAST FROM MY PART, I THINK I SPEAK FOR THE COUNCIL.

WE APPRECIATE YOUR COMMITMENT TO THAT IN A TOUGH JOB MARKET TO MAKE THOSE KINDS OF DECISIONS, YOU KNOW, AND TO BE WILLING TO TO GO THROUGH WITH THAT.

WE APPLAUD YOU THAT.

SO MY QUESTION IS ABOUT STAFFING WEREN'T IN ANY WAY TO SUGGEST WHY ARE YOU MAKING THOSE DECISIONS WHEN YOU'VE GOT THIS OTHER ISSUE? I'M I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT WE'RE PROUD OF YOU FOR THE DECISION THAT YOU'VE MADE, DESPITE THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE.

SO HOW LONG HAS IT BEEN HOW MANY YEARS AGO WAS IT THAT OUR SALARIES ARE PAY FOR CORRECTIONS WAS AT THE TOP OF THE SCALE INSTEAD OF, DID YOU SAY FOURTH NOW PROBABLY LESS THAN THAT.

THE FAYETTE COUNTY AND STATE IS JUST IMPLEMENTING, RIGHT? FAYETTE COUNTY DID THIS YEAR WENT UP TO 25 A FEW MONTHS AGO, PROBABLY THREE MONTHS AGO.

AND THEN GOVERNOR BESHEAR, I GUESS, HAS STARTING JUNE 1ST.

FROM WHAT I GATHERED TODAY, I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE LESS, BUT APPARENTLY IT'S GOING TO BE $28.30 AN HOUR TO START.

SO COMPARED TO COVINGTON, COVINGTON, I THINK IS HIRING US NOW TO THAT MIGHT BE THE THAT QUICK MATH WORD AT LEAST FOURTH AND MAYBE NOT EVEN THAT HIGH.

RIGHT. AND WE'RE AT 2175 RIGHT NOW.

OKAY. THANK YOU.

AND CAN I ASK APPROXIMATELY HOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE YOU HAD TO LET GO BECAUSE OF WHAT WAS FOUND OUT IN THIS REPORT? WELL, I DON'T THINK IT WAS. WHAT FOUND OUT WAS REPORT IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED SINCE.

WELL, YEAH, YEAH. STARTING ACCOUNTABILITY.

SO WE'VE HAD TO LET 12 GO AND ADDITIONAL EIGHT RESIGNED IN LIEU OF TERMINATION.

THANK YOU. OKAY.

COUNCILMAN RENA WEBER.

I JUST WANT TO ECHO.

I'M OVER HERE. YEAH. I JUST REALLY WANT TO ECHO THE CONGRATULATIONS FOR YOUR APPROACH AFTER THE LAST TIME THAT YOU TESTIFIED ABOUT REALLY FOCUSING ON THE PUBLIC HEALTH ISSUES, ABOUT THE TREATMENT ISSUES, ABOUT THE REENTRY ISSUES, AND WE REALLY WANT TO GIVE YOU THE RESOURCES YOU NEED TO HAVE THAT FOCUS.

OBVIOUSLY, WE NEED TO HAVE A JAIL AND WE NEED TO HAVE A JAIL THAT FUNCTIONS, BUT WITH A FOCUS ON REALLY HOW DO WE HELP PEOPLE WHO ARE COMING INTO THAT TO COME OUT IN A WAY THAT SETS THEM UP FOR SUCCESS.

SO I JUST REALLY APPRECIATE THAT.

I DO WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE'RE HEARING TWO SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT THINGS FROM THE TWO OF YOU ABOUT A FACILITY ITSELF.

SO I'D BE INTERESTED IN HEARING YOU BOTH TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.

YOU'VE SAID VERY CLEARLY, YES, SOMETIME LONG TERM.

BUT FIRST, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF OTHER PRIORITIES.

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I HEARD YOU SAY TODAY, YES, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO DO THAT.

BUT THOSE ARE DIFFERENT THINGS.

AND IF YOU'RE IN DISAGREEMENT, THAT'S FINE.

IF THIS IS A SEQUENCING THING, THAT'S FINE.

BUT I WANT TO JUST BE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING SOME CLARITY AROUND.

YEAH, I WANT TO BE CLEAR ON THAT TOO, AND I APPRECIATE THAT QUESTION.

IT'S KIND OF TWOFOLD.

IF WE STARTED TODAY, IF THERE WAS A MIRACLE AND WE SAID, HEY, LET'S START LOOKING FOR FUNDING FOR A JAIL TODAY AND DOING THE STUDIES AND THE SITE, FINDING WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE AND HOW IT'S GOING TO BE, IT'S GOING TO TAKE SEVERAL YEARS.

SO, YES, OUR JAIL IS NOT DESIGNED THAT THERE SHOULD BE A NATIONAL STANDARD ON ON THE CHALLENGES AND CORRECTIONS AS FAR AS MEDICAL AND MENTAL HEALTH TREATMENT AND AREAS FOR PROGRAMING AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.

SO THAT'S THE PIECE I'M SPEAKING TO AS THE RIGHT NOW, I CAN'T HAVE A SOLE FOCUS THAT'S KIND OF LIKE, YOU KNOW, ALL OF OUR RESPONSIBILITY FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM THE COMMUNITY, FROM COUNCIL, FROM, YOU KNOW, THE MAYOR'S OFFICE, FROM, YOU KNOW, FOLKS TO DO THAT.

AND I THINK WHAT MR. BYERS IS SAYING IS WE CAN EITHER PAY NOW OR WE CAN PAY LATER, BECAUSE EVENTUALLY IF.

IF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT COMES IN, IF THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE COMES IN AND DOES A CONSENT DECREE ON THE JAIL, THEN THERE'S NO CHOICE.

AND THEN YOU, YOU KNOW, GO UNDER THAT.

AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S PROBABLY THE WAY WE WANT TO GO.

I KNOW IT'S NOT THE WAY I WANT TO GO, BUT MY FOCUS HAS TO BE RIGHT NOW.

SO WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THAT REALLY IT'S THE ABILITY TO PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES THAT IS AT ISSUE ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, WHETHER THAT'S A FACILITY OR OTHER INVESTMENTS, THAT'S THE GOAL THAT YOU ARE PUSHING FOR.

CORRECT. AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, I'D LOVE TO HAVE A NEW JAIL.

I HAD A I CAN'T THINK OF THE SINGER'S NAME IN THERE.

HE'S A JUSTICE REFORM GUY AND HE IS IN THIS WEEKEND.

I HAD HIM IN THE JAIL SATURDAY AND HE WAS SPEAKING TO ONE OF OUR PROGRAM, DORMS AND RECOVERY AND.

HE WAS KIND OF SHY AND HE WAS A RECOVERING ALCOHOLIC AND HE WAS LIKE, YEAH, I GOT LOCKED UP IN FAYETTE COUNTY.

BUT THIS WAS IT WAS NOT SCARY LIKE THIS.

IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS VERY DIFFERENT.

SO. THE ACCOUNTING WAS BUILT DIRECT SUPERVISION, JAIL APPROXIMATELY THE SAME TIME AT LOUISVILLE METRO CORRECTIONS WAS BUILT.

AND IT'S A IT'S A DIFFERENT IT WAS DESIGNED MUCH BETTER AND FOR LONG TERM ABILITY TO USE.

SO IT'S JUST A DIFFERENT ANIMAL.

BUT AND I'D LOVE FOR US TO START HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS ON HOW TO BE FUNDED AND THINGS LIKE THAT, BUT.

MYSELF AND MY STAFF, WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON GETTING BETTER ON WHAT WE HAVE EVERY DAY, JUST A LITTLE BIT, TAKING A LITTLE BIT OF BITE OUT OF THE ELEPHANT TO GET BETTER BECAUSE THERE'S I HAVE NO ROOM. I GOT A ONE DAY CONTRACT, YOU KNOW, SO WE HAVE NO ROOM TO TO DREAM.

WE NEED TO HAVE REALITY DISCUSSIONS.

BUT WE HAVE TO FOCUS RIGHT NOW.

THANK YOU, IF I MAY.

YOU AND I ARE IN TOTAL AGREEMENT.

AND HE HAS NOW HE HAS TO USE AND DEAL WITH IT.

AND I THINK HE'S DOING A GREAT JOB OF TRYING TO MODIFY IT AND BRING IT UP TO ADEQUATE STANDARDS FOR AN INTERIM PEACE.

BUT I THINK LONG TERM, WE BOTH AGREE THAT A NEW JAIL FACILITY IS NEEDED.

AND AGAIN, I WENT THROUGH GREAT DETAIL IN THE REPORT AS TO THE BENEFITS OF THAT AND IN CONTRASTING PEOPLE OR CITIES THAT HAVE A DIRECT SUPERVISION FACILITY, THE NUMBER OF DEATHS, THE THE OVERDOSES ARE MUCH LESS THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE AT METRO CORRECTIONS. AND SO I THINK WE'RE IN AGREEMENT ON THAT.

AND AGAIN, I CAN'T COMMEND HIM ENOUGH FOR ALL THE THINGS HE'S DONE.

I MEAN, AGAIN, THE REPORT, 460 PAGES, THERE'S A LOT TO DIGEST THERE.

BUT HE HAS GONE THROUGH THAT, I KNOW, 3 OR 4 TIMES AND IS EXTRACTED THINGS AND HE'S GOT HIS TEAM WORKING ON SO MANY OF THE THINGS IN THAT REPORT.

SO I APPLAUD HIM FOR THAT.

AND REAL QUICKLY, CIRCLING BACK ON THAT, THE RECRUITING PIECE, I DON'T KNOW.

I'VE GOT A POWERPOINT ONE SLIDE I WANTED TO SHOW IS THAT CAN WE PULL THAT UP? DID YOU SUBMIT THAT TO THE CLERK'S OFFICE PRIOR TO TODAY'S MEETING? I DID NOT. I'VE GOT IT.

I'VE GOT IT ON THE COMPUTER HERE.

DO YOU HAVE IT OVER THERE? YEAH.

JUST BEAR WITH THIS A SECOND.

YES. SO WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT RECRUITING AND THIS IS WHAT DIRECTOR COLLINS WAS TALKING ABOUT.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE PAY SCALE, YOU CAN SEE LMDC IS REALLY AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAY SCALE.

AND AS YOU MENTIONED, THE KENTUCKY DEPARTMENT OF CORRECTIONS, THEY'VE BOOSTED THEIR ANNUAL PAY TO 52,500 AND.

I'M JUST TELLING YOU, IT'S LIKE I SAID IN THE REPORT.

AS DIRECTOR CULLEN JUST SAID, YOU CAN PAY ME NOW OR PAY ME LATER.

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LMDC IS PAYING $5 MILLION A YEAR FOR OVERTIME.

THAT MONEY COULD BE USED TO BOOST THE PAY TO GET MORE PEOPLE IN AND TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF OVERTIME THAT'S REQUIRED AND.

IF SOMEBODY IS LOOKING FOR A JOB, WHY WOULD THEY GO TO LMDC FOR THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY WHEN THEY CAN GO ELSEWHERE AND MAKE QUITE A BIT MORE? SO I THINK IN THE NEGOTIATIONS THAT ARE COMING UP.

A SALARY INCREASE SHOULD BE STRONGLY CONSIDERED.

AND I THINK THERE ARE TRADE OFFS.

AND I'VE TALKED TO THE PRESIDENT OF THE FOP TRADE OFFS THAT CAN BE MADE TO.

FOR FOR THE CONTRACT TO ALLOW THE DIRECTOR TO HAVE GREATER LATITUDE IN DEALING WITH THE PERSONNEL AT THE JAIL.

ANOTHER FACTOR THAT WE TALKED ABOUT IN THE REPORT RIGHT NOW, HE IS SOMEWHAT HAMSTRUNG BY WHERE HE CAN MOVE PEOPLE.

AND THERE COULD BE MODIFICATIONS IN THAT CONTRACT IN RETURN FOR PAY BENEFITS.

SO JUST SOMETHING TO CONSIDER IN TERMS OF TRYING TO RECRUIT, WHICH IS SO VITALLY IMPORTANT FOR THE JAIL.

THANK YOU.

COUNCILWOMAN. PARVUS.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

I WANT TO GO BACK TO THE WELLPATH.

THE MEDICAL CONTRACTOR.

DOES ALL OF THE MEDICAL STAFF FALL UNDER THEM? YES AND NO.

I HAVE. YES.

OUR THE BULK FALLS UNDER THEM NOW.

SINCE WE STARTED, WE'VE HAD PRACTICUMS COME IN FOR SOCIAL WORKERS AND PSYCHOLOGY STUDENTS.

SO WE'VE ADDED ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES THAT ARE.

MY EMPLOYEES. AND WE PARTNER WITH THE HEALTH DEPARTMENT ON A MULTITUDE OF THINGS COMING IN, WHICH WOULD BE METRO EMPLOYEES ALSO.

BUT YES, WELLPATH IS THE BULK OF THE MEDICAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT.

SO WHAT TYPE OF SERVICES ARE PROVIDERS DO THEY PROVIDE? IS IT A MEDICAL DOCTOR OR AN LPN? LPN? CAN YOU.

YEAH, THERE'S A MATRIX ON ON ALL THE MEDICAL DOCTORS, PSYCHIATRISTS, MULTITUDE OF SINS, SEVERAL OTHER PROVIDERS, AND USUALLY GENERALLY THERE'S ABOUT EIGHT NURSES ON DUTY AT A TIME.

AND LIKE I SAID, SOME OF THE CHANGES WE MADE INTERNALLY WITH MODIFYING THE CONTRACT WITH THEM IS ADDING TELEHEALTH, ADDING MASTER'S LEVEL MENTAL HEALTH AT THE FRONT END THAT HAS BEEN MODIFIED DURING THE CURRENT CONTRACT BECAUSE FRANKLY, WE COULDN'T AFFORD TO WAIT TO MAKE SOME DELIVERABLE CHANGES THAT WE THINK WOULD COULD MAKE A HUGE DIFFERENCE.

AND IT'S IT'S PROVEN TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE RIGHT NOW.

AND WITH YOU IDENTIFYING 30 TO 40% OF THE GENERAL POPULATION HAVE A MENTAL HEALTH ILLNESSES, ARE THEY SEPARATED OR IS EVERYBODY JUST.

UNDER THE SEVERE MENTAL HEALTH IS SEPARATED.

NOW YOU CAN TALK ABOUT UNITED STATES AND 1 IN 4 PER 1 IN 4 PEOPLE HAVE SOME TYPE OF MENTAL ILLNESS, MIGHT NOT BE SEVERE BUT ARE SUFFERING FROM.

SO YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LEVELS OF MELANOMA NOW SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS ARE SEPARATED.

OKAY. OKAY.

ALL RIGHT. AND DO THEY GET SOME TYPE OF TREATMENT OR THERAPY ON A REGULAR BASIS OR HOW DOES THAT.

YES. WHETHER IT BE MEDICATION BY THE PSYCHIATRIST OR THE CHALLENGE IS THIS IS CURRENTLY AS FAR AS THERE'S NO ROOM FOR GROUP SETTINGS TO DO GROUPS THEY HAVE TO DO WE CALL IT SINGLE CELL THERAPY.

THAT'S NOT PRODUCTIVE.

THAT'S NOT WELL, THIS IS PRODUCTIVE AS WE'RE ALLOWED TO DO WITH THE FACILITY.

BUT THAT'S NOT YOU TALK TO A MENTAL HEALTH PROFESSIONAL, THAT'S NOT THE HIGHEST RECORD.

HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT. NOW, WE CAN'T FORCE MEDICAID, FOLKS.

SO A LOT OF IT IS.

TRYING TO STABILIZE WHEN WE GET FOLKS IN WITH SEVERE MENTAL ILLNESS.

NOW, WE KNOW A LOT OF OUR FOLKS THAT ARE THAT COME BACK WITH THAT.

THAT'S WHY THAT REENTRY PIECE AND THAT TO THAT TO CONNECT SERVICES.

FOR MOST STABILIZING SOMEBODY TO THE COMMUNITY TO HELP REDUCE THAT.

I THINK YOU SEE THE COMMUNITY UPRISING, MENTAL HEALTH.

SO THAT'S AGAIN, ANOTHER CHALLENGE FOR US AND A LOT OF OUR FOLKS THAT THAT HAVE MENTAL ILLNESS ARE DUAL DIAGNOSIS.

THEY HAVE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER THAT THEY'RE TREATING THEIR MENTAL ILLNESS WITH.

SO IT'S TWO CHALLENGES ON THAT.

OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH.

YOU'RE WELCOME, MA'AM. THANK YOU, COUNCILMAN.

SAM. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

THANK YOU, DIRECTOR COLLINS.

I WANTED TO ASK ABOUT THE HOMELESS POPULATION AND WHERE COUNCILMAN READ.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR COLLINS.

SWITCHING GEARS JUST A LITTLE BIT, ARE WE BACKLOGGED WITH INMATES WHO ARE TO TRANSPORT TO KENTUCKY CORRECTIONS?

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AND IF SO, HOW EXTENSIVE IS THE BACKLOG AND WHY? WE ARE ONE OF THE ONLY JAILS THAT DO NOT.

HOUSE, CLASS B FELONS.

SO TRADITIONALLY, WE'VE HAD SEVERAL HUNDRED.

THE STATE IS DOING VERY WELL RIGHT NOW ON GETTING FOLKS OUT.

WE HAVE TO THEY HAVE UP TO 45 DAYS TO GET THEM.

SO I THINK I JUST REPORTED THIS AND I AIN'T GOT THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME.

I THINK WE'RE AT ABOUT 80 TODAY.

THAT'S OVER 45 DAYS.

SO AFTER THAT, THEY START PAYING US.

ACTUALLY, THEY START PAYING US IMMEDIATELY.

APPROXIMATELY $35 A DAY FOR FOR THOSE THEIR INMATES.

UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, IT COSTS US ABOUT $120 A DAY TO HOUSE SOMEONE FOR OVERALL SERVICES.

SO THAT'S A CHALLENGE.

BUT I DO NOT WANT TO RUN DOWN STATE.

THEY'VE DONE A GREAT JOB ALONG WITH THE BAIL PROJECT, THE COMMONWEALTH ATTORNEY, THE PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE AND IDENTIFYING FOLKS THAT DON'T NEED TO BE IN JAIL.

SO THAT'S ACTUALLY A LOW NUMBER.

I THINK OUR POPULATION TODAY WAS ABOUT 12 60 OUR CAPACITY IS 1353.

SO WE'VE BEEN WE'VE BEEN HOVERING AROUND THAT NUMBER FOR ABOUT A MONTH.

WE GOT IT DOWN TO ABOUT 12, 13, ABOUT A MONTH AGO, BUT WE'VE MOVED BACK UP TO ABOUT 1260 TODAY WITH 1280 EARLIER THIS WEEK.

SO THEY ARE DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB IN TRADITIONALLY IN THE PAST THAT MOVING STATE INMATES OUT.

OKAY. SO YOU'RE SAYING THAT IT'S NOT REALLY AN ISSUE AT THIS MOMENT? NOT CURRENTLY. THAT CAN ALWAYS CHANGE NEXT WEEK, BUT FOR SINCE I'VE BEEN BACK, THEY'VE DONE AN EXCELLENT JOB ON ON GETTING THEM OUT, THOUGH.

THERE HAS BEEN IN THE PAST.

YEAH. WELL, AND THAT'S WHAT I READ AND FOLLOW THE DATA.

AND I WAS JUST WONDERING, WONDERING IF IT WAS ANY WORSE IF THE SITUATION HAS IMPROVED.

BUT BASED ON WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME, IT HAS IMPROVED.

SO THAT'S GOOD NEWS.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU.

THERE'S NO ONE ELSE IN THE QUEUE, BUT I WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK, DIRECTOR COLLINS, ON ON ANY OTHER ISSUES THAT YOU SEE THAT YOU'RE WORKING ON TO IMPROVE THINGS THAT MAYBE MAYBE WAS NOT MENTIONED TODAY.

YEAH, AND IT WOULD PROBABLY BE EASIER.

I ACTUALLY HAVE A GOING THROUGH MR. BOWERS REPORT ON HIS LIST OF RECOMMENDATIONS HAVE ANSWERED ON CURRENTLY THE THINGS WE'RE DOING OR HAVING THE QUEUE TO DO.

OBVIOUSLY, I CAN'T ANSWER A NEW JAIL THAT'S NOT IN MY CAPACITY TO SAY SHAZAM.

HOWEVER, I CAN SEND THAT TO ALL YOU GUYS IF YOU'D LIKE THAT.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THANK MR. BOWERS AND THANK COUNCIL FOR HIRING HIM.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT REALLY HAS TO BE SHOWN IS THE CHALLENGES, AND I THINK HIS REPORT REFLECTS EXACTLY WHAT WE KNEW AND SHOWS THE PUBLIC AND SHOWS FOLKS WHAT THE CHALLENGES IS AT METRO CORRECTIONS.

SO I WANT TO APPLAUD HIM.

I CONSIDER HIM A FRIEND NOW.

I CALL HIM ON A WEEKEND SOMETIMES.

SO IT'S BEEN A YOU KNOW, THE CHALLENGES ARE TOUGH, BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU GOT TO GET IN THE ARENA AND YOU GOT TO FIGHT THEM.

YEAH, WELL, THANK YOU.

WE APPRECIATE ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE AND THE TURNAROUND THAT WE'VE SEEN.

I THINK IT'S BEEN MONEY WELL SPENT.

AND, YOU KNOW, I COMMEND YOU, MR. BAUER, FOR ALL OF YOUR HARD WORK.

THANK YOU. SO AND I SEE THAT WE HAVE DEPUTY MAYOR DAVID JAMES WITH US.

DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? I'M. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

DAVID JAMES, DEPUTY MAYOR OF EMERGENCY SERVICES.

I JUST REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO THE COUNCIL FOR HAVING THIS HEARING AND TALKING ABOUT IT THE WAY THAT THE JAIL WAS.

AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, PRIOR TO DIRECTOR CHIEF COLLINS COMING OVER THERE, IT WAS NOT GOOD.

IT WAS HORRIBLE.

AND SO I'M VERY PROUD OF HIM AND HIS STAFF FOR WHAT THEY'VE DONE TO CHANGE THINGS AND THE LEADERSHIP THAT THEY'VE SHOWN.

I'M VERY THANKFUL TO MR. BEYER FOR DOING THE INVESTIGATION AND BEING VERY TRANSPARENT AND STRAIGHTFORWARD ABOUT THE THINGS THAT HE FOUND.

AND SO I'M JUST VERY HAPPY.

I KNOW THAT WE HAVE MUCH FURTHER TO GO WITH THE IMPROVEMENTS AT METRO CORRECTIONS, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TEAM IN PLACE TO GET IT DONE, AND I'M JUST VERY THANKFUL.

WHAT ABOUT THAT NEW JAIL? ANYWAYS, I'LL SEE YOU GUYS LATER.

MR. BAUER, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING FURTHER CLOSING? I DO WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO.

TO ASSESS THE JAIL AND.

I ECHOED DIRECTOR COLLINS STATEMENTS.

HE'S WORKED SO WELL WITH ME AND HE'S MADE HIS STAFF AVAILABLE.

I'VE DONE A LOT OF OTHER INVESTIGATIONS AND I'VE NEVER HAD A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN SO COOPERATIVE AND HELPFUL, AND I REALLY APPRECIATED THAT.

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AND I THANK HIM FOR HIS KIND COMMENTS THIS AFTERNOON.

THANK YOU. WELL, IT'S WONDERFUL TO SEE THE COLLABORATION AND JUST LOOKING FORWARD TO BETTER.

I THINK WE'RE ALREADY IN BETTER PLACE.

SO THANKS TO YOU AND YOUR YOUR WORK.

SO THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

IF THERE'S ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COMMITTEE, I SEE NONE.

WE STAND ADJOURNED.

THANK YOU.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.